Deregistering a car when selling for parts?

As in the subject.

I bought a car missing the rear side members. They are so rusted that it is scary to drive, so you don't need to force it to someone else, just cut it up and sell it for parts.

Therefore, my question: how is this done when unregistering it? It is, of course, a more legal solution than cutting and reporting the theft.

Regards.

I guess you need to scrap the car if you deregister it. I don't know exactly what it looks like, but you may need a receipt that the car was scrapped.

Well, theoretically, yes, just a question - how to do it so as not to pay for scrapping the car, and to pay extra if it is sold for parts?

When scrapping you do not pay anything, there are companies that still pay you, a kilogram of steel scrap is almost PLN 1. Drive to an authorized scrapping point and talk that you want to scrap the car, but you would like to leave it. And remember if you have recently bought the car, then The deadlines for reporting in the Tax Office, for registration, for purchasing the civil liability insurance run, make sure that you do not create huge problems unknowingly, the penalties are enormous and not adequate to the value of this scrap

I have such a question in the subject. What if the car was sold with a provision in the contract that for parts, and then the buyer did not register it as a car?

Thread. You get over it, the buyer is worried about the rest. In this way, the car is sold for "normal" scrap, which is not authorized to issue disassembly certificates for communication departments in starosties. Authorized car dismantling companies issue certificates on the basis of which a decision to deregister is issued. In turn, on the basis of this decision, the obligatory third party liability insurance contract is terminated.
A month ago I worked on the subject, giving my old Nissan for scrap

andk1eltd wrote:

Thread. You get over it, the buyer is worried about the rest. In this way, the car is sold for "normal" scrap, which is not authorized to issue disassembly certificates for communication departments in starosties. Authorized car dismantling companies issue certificates on the basis of which a decision to deregister is issued. In turn, on the basis of this decision, the obligatory third party liability insurance contract is terminated.
A month ago I worked on the subject, giving my old Nissan for scrap

Can you provide details, such as what the contract looks like? Any special entries or something?

Unfortunately, I am afraid that here in Włocławek it will not be possible to scrap the car so as to get money for the scrap, but we'll see.

Hello, Is it possible to report somewhere that the car has broken down due to old age?

No, you can't, and what will it do? . You report the sale, purchase, loss and change of the actual condition of the vehicle, i.e. a change in the fuel supply method etc. In order for the vehicle to be deregistered, i.e. withdrawn from traffic, it must be disposed of, otherwise it is impossible to deregister the vehicle, and thus the vehicle the registered person must have a contract concluded and the third party liability insurance premium paid.

Does this nonsense recipe still exist? So I can't, for example, deregister my car and put it in the garden as a decoration?

Or just deregister and sell for parts (scrap body, engine and the rest to sell)?

Hello
as @robokop wrote

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In order for the vehicle to be deregistered, i.e. withdrawn from traffic, it must be disposed of.

This means that you give the car to scrap, and there they give you paper and perforated metal sheets, and with it you chase to the County Office (Communication Department).
The point is that scrap collectors have a license to dispose of batteries, oils and all car fluids (EU ecology)
To sum up, you cannot deregister the car while keeping it at your place, you have to scrap it.
Regards

Concession for recycling ... ;)

After all, it lies in the square and it either seeps into concrete or into the ground, and only smells of old oils and other around.

"lumpy in concrete", man do you feel well
After all, there are companies that receive these liquids from them.
and here it is, and how it is in practice in scrap yards - it is different

Spitor wrote:

"lumpy in concrete", man do you feel well
After all, there are companies that receive these liquids from them.

The same as those selling scrap metal and cooperate with SOK, SM, etc.

What are you defending them like? Take a ride to the first scrap yard, you will see it, and even be within a 50m radius - you can already smell the specific smell.

The end of the offtop.

"Take a ride to the first scrap yard, you will see it, and even within a radius of 50 meters, you can already smell the specific smell."
Different scrap metal "smells" differently, it cannot be hidden.
I do not defend "scrap collectors" I have nothing with them, but it is so that they can scrap cars and operate in accordance with the law
Try to buy old batteries or oils yourself

This can be done in a different way. You are just selling a car to someone in your family (brother, wife, etc.). You have it overwhelmed by taking the contract to the communications department that you sold the vehicle. And the person who acquired it does not go to register it and there are no consequences of it.

Maybe I will add a little bit from myself, because a little ambiguity appears here.
The only possibility of deregistering the car is its disposal at an authorized car disassembly station, there you will get a document confirming its scrapping and on its basis you will deregister the car.
In order not to pay for the scrapping, the car must be in its entirety (minimum 90% of its weight), if it is incomplete, there is an additional payment to the weight (probably PLN 2 per 1 kg), i.e. if the car is 100 kg lighter than its nominal weight, you will pay PLN 200.
There is no such thing as resale for parts, if the person who bought it from you does not register it, the car is still yours.

brodaty wrote:

There is no such thing as resale for parts, if the person who bought it from you does not register it, the car is still yours.

How can it figure as yours? After all, in the communications department, they will redeem him from you if you show a buy-to-sell contract.

brodaty wrote:

Maybe I will add a little bit from myself, because a little ambiguity appears here.
The only possibility of deregistering the car is its disposal at an authorized car disassembly station, there you will get a document confirming its scrapping and on its basis you will deregister the car.
In order not to pay for the scrapping, the car must be in its entirety (minimum 90% of its weight), if it is incomplete, there is an additional payment to the weight (probably PLN 2 per 1 kg), i.e. if the car is 100 kg lighter than its nominal weight, you will pay PLN 200.
There is no such thing as resale for parts, if the person who bought it from you does not register it, the car is still yours.

Well, scrap metal has such a right (license, some kind of permit or whatever you call it, no matter what), it is important that they can buy cars.
The point is that they have signed contracts with companies that deal with the utilization of hazardous substances (they don't do it themselves, they collect it as much as possible). That's how it works.
Of course, "wild" dumps or "scrap" also work, but they cannot issue the document needed to deregister the car.

Reading every thread of this forum, I begin to conclude that the mental dullness of some users is reaching its zenith. That is why we have regulations regarding the protection of the environment and natural resources, so as not to pollute the ground with engine oils, vehicle equipment made of plastic and other substances found in cars, which are not biodegradable. These regulations are not only compliant with EU regulations, but also enforced by the EU. As for the abandonment of harmful waste "anywhere", older users probably remember the story from the late 1980s, when somewhere in Poland a group of children found a container with radioactive cesium in a garbage can - several of these children did not survive.

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toxi_14 wrote:

How can it figure as yours? After all, in the communications department, they will redeem him from you if you show a buy-to-sell contract.

If you don't know something, don't write it out. In the CEPIK system and in the County Office's records, the vehicle is still listed for whom the car was / is registered for, until it is registered by a new buyer. The fact of a sale report has nothing to do with it, it is only information for the Department of Communications when it is registered by the new owner.

ZGG wrote:

You can sell to someone recently deceased. If only he was still alive at the time of purchase. Take a copy of the contract to the communications office. And let them look for him afterwards. Unfortunately, we have such a Jewish law. That you should pay until you die, Even if the chickens carry eggs in it.

Unfortunately, ZGG is not like that. Until the buyer registers the vehicle, the vehicle is considered yours

I do not know how it is at the moment, but at one time it was possible to scrap an incomplete car, so what's the problem to get what else is suitable for anything and scrap the body itself (as long as nothing has changed and you can still do it)?

PS What car your friend wants to scrap. I'm asking out of curiosity, if it's not a secret?

toxi_14 wrote:

This can be done in a different way. You are just selling a car to someone in your family (brother, wife, etc.). You have it overwhelmed by taking the contract to the communications department that you sold the vehicle. And the person who acquired it does not go to register it and there are no consequences of it.

He must re-register within 30 days. The contract shows the address of the new buyer and if he does not do it on time, he will have problems (even in the registration certificate it is written)

If you sell a car, it may be yours, but yours is not. You imagine it, someone buys a car, does not reregister it and, for example, kills someone with it - in the contract you have a date and you are not interested in what happens with the car after it is sold.

You can sell a car for a dead person, but it is unfortunately not entirely in line with ethics / law.

Oh .. you can report the theft, but remember that making false statements is punishable by criminal liability ...

rafal8916 wrote:

PS What car your friend wants to scrap. I'm asking out of curiosity, if it's not a secret?

Ford Sierra Mk2 2.0 DOHC EFI

Bought less than 2 months ago, the rear side members are torn enough that the suspension does not have a reasonable attachment, and the whole rear screeches more and more - it will eventually break, unless I cut it first.

I will leave the engine for myself because it is in beautiful condition, I will sell the rest.

Er ... you can still ride there :D

Moderated By Błażej:

Warning for littering the forum with nonsense.

Well, you can, but I will get less in total than for individual parts, and to drive a car that can break in the back is suicide.

well, more on that ...
drive ... and watch out for the rear ...

Heh, but there's nothing to hold on to there, it can break at any moment ...