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  • #1
    Alfred001
    Level 14  
    Hello :)

    I bought a cable for my Sharan. But you know, cable is not everything and you would need a program. To my surprise, I found something like this
    http://dte.com.pl/pobarcie.htm
    There is a program called DeltaScan5.0, which as it can be seen from the description is

    "A fully functional diagnostic program for the VW group (VAG). It enables the diagnosis of all controllers used in cars, including drivers: engine, gearbox, airbag, abs / eds, air conditioning, etc. Supports cars up to 2004, does not support operating controllers on the CAN bus and using the KWP2000 protocol. Works with any diagnostic interface for the VW group "

    It does not appear from the description that it has any time or functional limitations, and the information that it works with any interface aroused my imagination :)
    So I downloaded it as soon as possible, fearing that it will disappear in a moment, installed it and ... IT WORKS! I wonder where the catch is?!? Why is such a program suddenly free? Anyone use this program? Is it really as rosy as the description says "fully functional"?

    Best regards,
  • #2
    trans-serwis
    Level 39  
    Have you hooked it up to the car yet?
  • #3
    Alfred001
    Level 14  
    trans-serwis wrote:
    Have you hooked it up to the car yet?

    Yes, I did. With my Sharan '98 1.9 TDI AFN connects without problems. I checked the engine, airbag, abs, air conditioning, meters, central electrics - I don't have any more drivers in the car.

    Please note that I have not checked all functions, only error codes and parameters so far.

    Best regards,
  • #4
    Pati
    Level 27  
    On the K line, there is no problem with the program. If you do not do it commercially, these are different programs and no one will chastise you for it, so whether you will do something with this or VAG 311.

    For example, due to the fact that I operate commercially, I paid PLN 1800 gross and I have updates, CAN support is good, I consider HELPA and peace of mind. He has already turned to me several times.
  • #5
    Alfred001
    Level 14  
    Pati wrote:
    On the K line, there is no problem with the program. If you do not do it commercially, these are different programs and no one will chastise you for it, so whether you will do something with this or VAG 311.

    Of course, I am not talking about commercial operation, although with this program I did not notice any mention that such use is prohibited. But when it comes to licensing matters, I don't know very well whether a free program can be used commercially, so I won't comment.

    As for the program, you are right ... this or that program, as long as it works properly. I'm not saying that this program is great, because I didn't even have time to test it well, but it is in Polish and doesn't need any cracks, patches, etc to be fully functional. And this is a plus for him.

    Pati wrote:
    For example, due to the fact that I operate commercially, I paid PLN 1800 gross and I have updates, CAN support is good, I consider HELPA and peace of mind. He has already turned to me several times.

    It would be too beautiful if they gave a free version of the program with CAN and the interface batch for free :)

    Best regards,
  • #6
    Alfred001
    Level 14  
    For interested...

    I tested the program a bit more and I can say that the functions such as basic settings, logging, test of elements, change of coding are also fully available.

    The downside is the producer's ads displayed next to the program, but that's probably why it's free.

    Best regards,
  • #7
    grala1
    VAG group specialist
    VCDS can be downloaded from the ADAKO website. Supports CAN. There is one downside to this program.
  • #8
    Alfred001
    Level 14  
    grala1 wrote:
    There is one downside to this program.

    I can guess what ... interface for 1800 PLN.
  • #9
    andrzej20001
    Level 43  
    You have no hints as in the full version.
  • #10
    Alfred001
    Level 14  
    andrzej20001 wrote:
    You have no hints as in the full version.

    And VAS5051 has the ability to update the driver software online ... crap, we're talking about a free program for the average car owner who does not want to spend money for connecting the car to a computer.
    Of course, there are better programs than this, they have hints, help, they work on CAN, etc., only that if you want to have it all, you have to pay a lot for it.

    Best regards,
  • #11
    andrzej20001
    Level 43  
    Connection and interpretation, repair are two different things and sometimes it is better to entrust the car to a professional.
  • #12
    Alfred001
    Level 14  
    andrzej20001 wrote:
    Connection and interpretation, repair are two different things and sometimes it is better to entrust the car to a professional.

    Sometimes it's better to know what's wrong with your car before going to a repair shop :)

    Best regards,
  • #13
    grzech12
    Level 17  
    For vw group there is probably nothing better than vag. The network is full of your face to version 409 will go ahead and when you start looking, you will probably quickly learn how to have a fully functional program.
  • #14
    grala1
    VAG group specialist
    grzech12 wrote:
    There is nothing better than a vag for the vw group.

    You're wrong. There is a VCDS that gives hints for coding, adaptations, shows what should be correct values in measured blocks, removes inspections from the machine. VCDP + K where, for example, when calibrating the steering sensor, you do not need to know the procedure as in VAG, VCDS or VAS, where you do not need to know the adaptation procedures - you choose only from the list.
  • #15
    Alfred001
    Level 14  
    Has anyone used this free program before? I wonder if it also works with other cars without any problems.

    Best regards,
  • #16
    andrend
    Level 26  
    The vasa era is ending for you, VW has changed to ODISA. Golf 7, vcds 12 are communicating with drivers but lacking many features.
    best regards
  • #17
    trans-serwis
    Level 39  
    Alfred001 wrote:
    we are talking about a free program for the average car owner who does not want to spend money for connecting the car to a computer.
    And if you don't want to spend money on a surgeon, buy a spbie scalpel.
  • #18
    Alfred001
    Level 14  
    trans-serwis wrote:
    And if you don't want to spend money on a surgeon, buy a spbie scalpel.

    Ales hit the comparison :) I will rather not operate myself, but with minor health problems I am happy to use natural medicine without going to the doctors.

    So, pulling your, not very accurate, comparison to cars, you can say that you can delete the error after replacing a sensor yourself, and go to a specialist with the engine overhaul.

    Best regards,
  • #19
    andrend
    Level 26  
    I love repairing cars diagnosed by owners, it's hard to convince wrong diagnoses, but the money flies for replacing good parts.
  • #20
    robreg
    Level 17  
    andrend wrote:
    I love repairing cars diagnosed by owners, it's hard to convince wrong diagnoses, but the money flies for replacing good parts.

    It is even more enjoyable to listen to fairy tales invented by mechanics who think that every car driving in front of the garage door is guided by a cash cow with the intelligence of a slipper, and how the customer wants to find out what exactly is made in his car and on what basis exactly prerequisites, is a brazen shag insulting the Specialist.

    Best regards. :D
  • #21
    autoas
    Level 42  
    robreg wrote:
    and how does the client want to know,

    This is what everyone would like ......
    The lawyer explains how he "defended", the doctor explains how he healed, electronics technician / IT specialist how he fixed .... only car mechanics are bloodsuckers, exploiters and liars, and the rest are little angels ..... it's easy to talk to someone and offend someone and it's best to generalize ...
    You earn yourself, give it to others this is how normal economy works ... and no need to write nonsense
    You buy an interface, act and spoil your car, you don't have to brag about it and persuade others
  • #22
    robreg
    Level 17  
    autoas wrote:
    robreg wrote:
    and how does the client want to know,

    This is what everyone would like ......
    The lawyer explains how he "defended", the doctor explains how he healed, electronics technician / IT specialist how he fixed .... only car mechanics are bloodsuckers, exploiters and liars, and the rest are little angels ..... it's easy to talk to someone and offend someone and it's best to generalize ...
    You earn yourself, give it to others this is how normal economy works ... and no need to write nonsense
    You buy an interface, act and spoil your car, you don't have to brag about it and persuade others

    As the saying goes, true virtue is not afraid of criticism. When I come to someone to repair their computer, I have no problem explaining:
    - in what condition the machine is currently in (which is the probable source of the problem and if necessary, you can discuss what could be the cause of such failure)
    - what is the fault of the user, and what is the equipment of its own accord
    - what the user should not do in the future
    - what I observed working wrong
    - and what needs to be changed so that the customer's equipment works better.

    I am not ashamed of my job or the fact that the client will want to check if I know my stuff. My work is to defend itself with its quality, and not with the fact that a hedgehog has come to me, who will swallow the text that the car does not drive because there is a bald wheel in the trunk of the car (a bit like the locksmith described by Tuwim talked to his client) .

    If the client knows my job, let him check me at will. Let him be able to convince himself that I did my job honestly, or let him show me that I made a mistake and did not perform the service properly. And most of all, I do not count on the customer to take the equipment, made for ....., and the warranty will be, as usual, to the gate / door (delete as appropriate), and then the customer carefully, because I fast with dogs.

    If the client does not know each other, I do not need to make him believe in my judgment or get rid of his prejudices. It is the client's will what he will do with the information provided by me, but he must obtain this information.

    I am not slandering anyone here. I wouldn't have believed it myself if it hadn't happened to me. I myself experienced that the mechanic was offended when he saw that the customer went to his own car with his own legal diagnostic interface to see what the engine was playing in the soul. Many times myself, being an amateur at digging with keys, I corrected the work of professionals who would be a pity to give a Ursus tractor for repair.

    At the end of the video you can see how others judge IT specialists - Episode of IT Fault on YouTube
  • #23
    Alfred001
    Level 14  
    robreg wrote:

    It is even more enjoyable to listen to fairy tales invented by mechanics who think that every car driving in front of the garage door is guided by a cash cow with the intelligence of a slipper, and how the customer wants to find out what exactly is made in his car and on what basis exactly prerequisites, is a brazen shag insulting the Specialist.

    Best regards. :D

    I better not put it! :)

    I've already had various hits with all-knowing mechanics. But the most annoying thing was that I was paying for the service performed, and also for the corrections after the service performed so that the service could be considered well done:?
    In my opinion, an important feature of a mechanic is the ability to admit to the client that he is unable to do a certain thing, and not to do it by force, guided by the principle "I know everything".

    But going back to the topic of the diagnostic program (one from the topic or another) ... you can say with a bit of humor that the diagnostic program is like a rocking horse ... "everyone should have one" :)

    Best regards,
  • #24
    andrend
    Level 26  
    Everyone can have the program, but only a select few can use it and have knowledge.
  • #26
    starter55
    Level 24  
    What is this topic leading to ??
    User bought some cable, it works and let him keep learning.

    I suggest closing this topic because it doesn't lead to anything anymore.
    Best regards.