Golf 6, Scirocco III, Octavia III: Affordable VCDS Compatible Interfaces Beyond VAG KKL

Hello gentlemen,
I have such a question, is there any option for an amateur interface such as VAG KKL, which will work with the VCDS program, but with newer cars such as Scirocco III, Golf 6, Octavia III, etc.?

Because I have a VAG KKL, it is great with Octavia I, Golf IV but you can forget about the newer ones, a friend encourages you to buy a Wurth Wow! / Snooper etc. but these are general interfaces and I mean that the VCDS works with a newer car from the VW group, So what do you need instead of the famous blue cable for a few pennies?
Do they have to be specific interfaces for a lot of money at once?
You can't get it for 150-200 some small interface? Just for your own needs, because I'm not a mechanic

Search for Hex v2.

There is a dedicated interface for VCDS and it cannot be replaced with other legal sources. In other words, VCDS software only works with the hardware interface produced for it.

I recommend buying ORI. It saves a lot of trouble and works great.

Ok, so there is no option to buy something "half-measure"? And how is it that for old VAGs a cable for PLN 40 is enough and here you have to go into specific cash right away?

And gentlemen, I found this something like a trip that probably does not work?
https://allegrolokalnie.pl/oferta/kabel-diagnostyczny-vcds-pl

there is such a mention in the announcement

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Supports all VAG yearbooks. I even tested it on the newest Skoda models from 2018 (Octavia) and Audi A4 from 2017 - it coded and adapted drivers without any problems!

MrMalo82 wrote:

half-mid "? And how is it that a cable for PLN 40 is enough for old VAGs

This is also piracy, because VAG-COM is not and has never been for free.

Log in to the VW forum or read a lot of topics

MrMalo82 wrote:

is it some kind of trip that probably doesn't work?

And here you would be surprised

MrMalo82 wrote:

here you have to go to specific cash right away?

And what did you expect that you can hook the car for xxxxx PLN with a safety pin or a calculator?
It's still pennies compared to other facebooks or repair by electronics.

That's why I say when we are having fun with the vag group, buying ori vcds is always a good idea.

Strumien swiadomosci swia wrote:

MrMalo82 wrote:

here you have to go to specific cash right away?

And what did you expect that you can hook the car for xxxxx PLN with a safety pin or a calculator?
It's still pennies compared to other facebooks or repair by electronics.

You know, Volvo XC90 from the showroom or brand new S-class, it is not, on the other hand, when I know life with a KKL cable for PLN 40, it would be possible to connect to the driver with the Audi S6 C5 or Cupra mk1 and they are not too much cheaper cars if at all.
It is about annuals, Golf 5 today is a car for pennies and KKL will not be able to do it.

In addition, there is, for example, Wow Wurth with a snooper and it works well, so I was curious if there is an interface that, like KKL, works with VCDS, and not a pro set for a professional mechanic who has a company / workshop and customers.

MrMalo82 wrote:

immediately pro kit for a professional mechanic who has a company / workshop and customers.

VCDS is a PRO KIT for you?

If the VCDS basket is too big for you, that's fine. People rummage themselves and then when everything goes out it is to a specialist.
The diagnostic interface is for people with knowledge.

So, since 2005, no village will be buried.

nici wrote:

VCDS is a PRO KIT for you?

If the VCDS basket is too big for you, that's fine. People rummage themselves and then when everything goes out it is to a specialist.
The diagnostic interface is for people with knowledge.

VCDS bought for such money is a PRO for me, because the average bread eater will not crash such money, i.e. a salary on a stupid interface, to check something.
In the old vag, I made logs, checked errors and it was ok without PLN 2,500, in such a system it is probably better to go to the service.
And if someone earns 50k a month, he can buy it, in a moment it will turn out that I have to buy a Maha dynamometer and check the condition of the engine, no eggs, someone who works on it and earns money can buy it, not an amateur for his own needs.

MrMalo82 wrote:

arym vagu, I made logs, checked errors and it was

And why don't vagas break down?

MrMalo82 wrote:

nici wrote:

VCDS is a PRO KIT for you?

If the VCDS basket is too big for you, that's fine. People rummage themselves and then when everything goes out it is to a specialist.
The diagnostic interface is for people with knowledge.

VCDS bought for such money is a PRO for me, because the average bread eater will not crash such money, i.e. a salary on a stupid interface, to check something.
In the old vag, I made logs, checked errors and it was ok without PLN 2,500, in such a system it is probably better to go to the service.
And if someone earns 50k a month, he can buy it, in a moment it will turn out that I have to buy a Maha dynamometer and check the condition of the engine, no eggs, someone who works on it and earns money can buy it, not an amateur for his own needs.

The cars you mentioned in the first post are worth so much that the price of vcds is a fraction of them.
So is the beer for the Porsche.

Look for a VCP. Polish product and does not drain your pockets.

T5 wrote:

Look for a VCP. Polish product and does not drain your pockets.

But also not PLN 40 ...

There are no cheap interfaces for newer cars, and any attempts to "pirate" will end up with me being harassed according to the rules.

robokop wrote:

attempts to "pirate"

I would call it "Januszowania"

nici wrote:

robokop wrote:

attempts to "pirate"

I would call it "Januszowania"

This is dying.

Strumien swiadomosci swia wrote:

It's still pennies compared to other facebooks or repair by electronics.

Are you sure? a visit to the website will not cost PLN 2,000, and you will not buy such hardware and software for PLN 300.

Kantylena wrote:

Strumien swiadomosci swia wrote:

It's still pennies compared to other facebooks or repair by electronics.

Are you sure? a visit to the website will not cost PLN 2,000, and you will not buy such hardware and software for PLN 300.

And most mechanics have Delphi (rice copy) and are kind of specialists.
The truth is - you will connect China-power and you may be very surprised when the CAN voltage goes to + 12V. Imagine the rest.

And I suggest that owners of newer cars go to the garage for reliable computer diagnostics. It will only benefit them and their vehicles

piachu1994 wrote:

And most mechanics have Delphi (rice copy) and are kind of specialists.
The truth is - you will connect China-power and you may be very surprised when the CAN voltage goes to + 12V. Imagine the rest.

And what does + 12V mean on CAN? I am not going to Janusz in the garage, but to a service station that covers everything and repairs for PLN 300-400 and that's it, not buying VCDS for a salary.
Computer diagnostics in services costs PLN 100-150.

Kantylena wrote:

And what does + 12V mean on CAN?

that such a cable will play a trick on you and provide power to the CAN. e.g.

nici wrote:

Kantylena wrote:

And what does + 12V mean on CAN?

that such a cable will play a trick on you and provide power to the CAN. e.g.

Well, the garage pays 50k of compensation and the car buys the next simple thing

Kantylena wrote:

Well, the garage pays 50k of compensation and the car buys the next simple thing

Rather, it was about when the owner spoiled himself.

piachu1994 wrote:

The truth is - you will connect China-power and you may be very surprised when the CAN voltage goes to + 12V. Imagine the rest.

But why surprise? What can I imagine? I am asking seriously, can my friend explain?

It will not work with VCDS, but OBDEleven has the same functionality as VCDS and costs about PLN 200. Unfortunately, it is incredibly slow and only for a smartphone.

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nici wrote:

The diagnostic interface is for people with knowledge.

I agree, but it is very difficult to find such ones, especially in the UK.
A few days ago, a customer rings - Audi A3 8L, the horn does not work. The gentlemen at the ASO connected the computer, saw only 1 DTC - the set of indicators, no communication with the radio (because the aftermarket radio) and made a "diagnosis" - "the horn does not work because the meter is broken, need to be replaced".
Another case - a customer's car died on the highway. Roadside assistance came, they connected a computer but found no errors. They said it was something serious and towed the car to the garage. A few days later, one clever mechanic without a diagnostic interface for xxx thousand got to the bottom of the problem - no fuel in the tank.

I think that it is a bit better in Poland, although I can see that on the electrode forum specialists announcing that they are repairing ECU drivers insinuate some phonecalls that the Chinese interface has transistors switching to Vin on lines 6/14. What's more, they claim that applying 12V on one of the CAN bus lines would have some negative effects. And it's in the Cars section, not Hydepark.

rosak wrote:

piachu1994 wrote:

The truth is - you will connect China-power and you may be very surprised when the CAN voltage goes to + 12V. Imagine the rest.

But why surprise? What can I imagine? I am asking seriously, can my friend explain?

At a friend's Chinese he beat a few modules - he released + 12V on the CAN bus. The effect that he had to make a customer a car from his own pocket - it was around 12,000 (everything burned).
Then, I have the original for PLN 3k and check if everything in the OBD socket is ok, then I fasten the cable and fly through everything without fear that something will not work.
The fact that rice is on the market and some that work surprisingly is a matter of luck.
Do you want to diagnose the car yourself? Then buy the right equipment, because the sly one loses twice.