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Siemens LOGO! Wi-Fi/Ethernet controller for lighting, app, blinds under £1000?

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  • #1 12947444
    kozak141
    Level 1  
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    Rate: 1
    Welcome.

    I am looking for a device that meets the following conditions:

    -will allow the automation of the lighting in the room (connection with dusk and presence sensor)
    -enables control via mobile devices (wifi or ethernet connection)
    -has the possibility of connecting extensions in the future, e.g. control of roller blinds + radiator valve, etc.
    -is cheap (up to £800-1000)
    -is simple to programme.

    I would like to create such a control in my room. I was wondering about LOGO controllers with ethernet version, but this connection is probably only used for network connection with other controllers i.e. no possibility to control via mobile devices like smartphone or tablet. If it is otherwise please correct me.

    For now it would only be to initialise 4 scenery + control from smartphone app via PC, in the future I would like to develop the project.

    Thank you for all your help.
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  • #2 12947507
    stkop
    Level 15  
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    Help: 14
    Rate: 7
    My first association for this price and this functionality:

    Sterbox
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  • #3 13038159
    SAWEK101
    Level 32  
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    Sterbox, as the name suggests, is just a remote relay with various configurations, if it were to do something on its own it wouldn't work, there are no practical analogue inputs or temp measurement, just a remote relay not to be confused with a PLC, but the price is quite affordable.
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  • #4 13038765
    Master-Slave
    Level 10  
    Posts: 13
    Rate: 2
    I don't think you've fully familiarised yourself with Sterbox's capabilities. Its capabilities far exceed what you have described. It can work in its own highly advanced logic and can measure temperature and many other measurements. In addition, the analogue input settings both basic and comparators give a lot of possibilities.
    Of course, programming it may be a problem for some.
    But once you get to know it you can make super functions.
  • #5 13039573
    SAWEK101
    Level 32  
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    Then please state what great analogue inputs these are (because these 0-3V are some kind of mistake, because what is this range and for what?) and a temperature measurement that does not float like the Barenza sea, here I am not surprised because it is impossible to make a stable measurement on the lm35 in a simple way, I do not know why the manufacturer did not use digital dallas sensors.

    If you say it's ok then maybe there's some new improved version I don't know about, because the current sterbox is just a useful remote relay, nothing more, it doesn't even have a decent timer, so what are the advanced features.
  • #6 13039677
    Master-Slave
    Level 10  
    Posts: 13
    Rate: 2
    I do not wish to convince you here. This forum is more for technical support and not for describing things that are not true.
    I have been assembling Sterboxes for a long time and know them intimately.
    I am not a fan of forum discussions, but do not denigrate a device if you do not know it well.
    Maybe you don't often come across devices with a 0-1v or 0-3v output
    0-1v or 0-3v. And this is where the Sterbox with 0-3v input is ideally suited.
    I will not mention the names of manufacturers of such sensors, and believe me there are many of them
    and if the stability of these devices is correct (and I use such), everything works correctly. It is also necessary to remember about proper programming and use of appropriate hysteresis.

    Besides, you wrote that it is only an internet relay. You really don't know it very well yet.
    Every device has its own characteristics and not everyone will like it.
    I like this device very much and if it doesn't meet your requirements, maybe ask a technical question and someone will probably be able to advise you.
    Best regards.
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  • #7 13039827
    SAWEK101
    Level 32  
    Posts: 2279
    Help: 13
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    Yes, I don't know the ins and outs of sterbox, because I got discouraged with it at the very beginning, it couldn't read the temperature precisely, nor program the time I wanted (a few cycles on off), fortunately a friend bought it and it's his toy, I used an array apb and a regular elmes gsm modem, it worked out cheaper and much more functional.
    Acha, I've never come across a 0-3V device yet, the standard is 4-20mA or 0-10V rarely 0-5V, so I don't know what this 0-3V is for and what further I have to use a divider on resistors.

    But as you say everyone has their own tastes and needs, I'm not saying that the whole sterbox is rubbish, but mercifully don't say anything about the analogue inputs in the sterbox anymore, they should give them up and do a decent measurement on the ds18b20 then that would be something on the + side.
  • #8 13152713
    doozersmagic
    Level 9  
    Posts: 5
    Hello,
    colleagues focus on sterbox, I will talk about the alternative.

    I have Fateek installed at home - when I read your requirements I can freely sign up to them with both hands, as when I started a few weeks ago I had literally identical requirements to you :)

    But to the point - I decided on a FATEK PLC in the configuration of:
    (a) FBs-20MA controller (12 in/8 out) - that's for starters :)
    b) FB-CBE communication board (1x 10Mb Ethernet a.k.a. 10Base-T) - for communication over LAN
    c) my free program that I make available on Play IQarium
    i can extend the controller to:
    - 80 inputs
    - 50 outputs
    if there is interest in this post, I will write what modules these are

    pI*oko price is : FBs-20MA 720PLN gross + FB-CBE 400PLN gross + IQarium 0 PLN
    so a little more than your upper limit, but:
    1) you get a fully functional PLC with the possibility of programming in a ladder scheme - simple and nice
    2) with me it works handling 4 lighting circuits, but it's just a matter of a few hours and it will be 8 :)
    3) communication under MODBUS-TCP and for this there are tons of visualisation programs, for control - I recommend IQarium, because mine and because I want to develop it further on the basis of comments/suggestions of a group of enthusiasts like you :)

    kind regards

    dm
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