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What wires for a z-wave installation in a 1982 flat?

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  • #1 13433679
    seur
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    Hello everyone,
    I regret to admit that I have no clue about electrics.
    I am currently preparing for a major refurbishment of a flat I bought, a building from 1982 so all the electrics need replacing.
    I have read a bit about the bypasses and have come up with the idea of using z-wave based equipment.
    I can handle the set-up without any problems but I don't know if I need to give any specific information about the cables to the electrical contractor I will be hiring for the job.
    I know I need to provide for deeper boxes to accommodate this contraption:
    http://www.z-wave.pl/pl/p/Przelacznik-scienny-podwojny-bialy-Z-Wave-TZ66D/2

    However, I don't know what about the wires themselves (are there any "weird" ones), the instructions for this switch include the wires:
    L: Line voltage input
    L: Switched load output
    N: Line neutral
    3: Auxiliary switch signal input

    The first 3 I can guess but what about the fourth I don't know.

    Thank you all in advance for your help and any comments on such a job and the system I have chosen (not sure if rightly).
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  • #2 13435175
    leon99
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    3: switching signal input from additional switch
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  • #3 13439946
    tomix
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    If you are planning a complex renovation of your installation, you should consider whether it is worth basing a pseudo-intelligent house on a radio solution. Such accessories are rather used in already made installations. The cost of additional metres of twisted-pair cable will of course come up, but you will gain a more secure solution, you will not be locked into the future, and you will not need expensive radio equipment.
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  • #4 13442670
    seur
    Level 11  
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    I have thought about this too, and as I say it is entirely possible.
    I certainly wouldn't be thinking about it if I were building a house. My scale :) is much smaller and I don't know if it wouldn't be form over substance.

    I've also tried to estimate the cost of such an investment and I don't foresee a tragedy but to be honest I have no idea what the cost would be when wiring a flat.

    At the preliminary design stage it looks like this:
    Switchboard 1500 - 500 - I am thinking of a dedicated switchboard or a raspberry pi with an attachment
    light switches 6 x 150 = 900
    movement sensor, light sensor, temperature sensor 1 x 200 = 200
    2 channel switches 8 x 180 = 1440
    flood sensor 1 x 250 = 250

    And that would be my starter that I will be aiming for. I will certainly start with the switches and switches themselves. Only after that will the other components appear.
    I am more tempted by the solution of a control panel put on a raspberry.
    Of course, I can see the disadvantages of this solution, but I also see one big plus, the possibility of connecting everything myself. With a wired solution, I'm afraid I might not be able to cope.
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    tomix
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    You are going to incur a very high cost, which would easily be sufficient for a small KNX-based installation, i.e. the full profession. If I were you, I would think about programmable controllers such as Siemens Logo, Eaton Easy, et cetera.

    PS. I myself have a Raspberry version B at home for testing and I will tell you that it is a lot of trouble, a lot of tinkering. Besides, if something is for everything, it is for ...
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