Choosing Between JONNESWAY T07030N and PROXXON 23 349 MicroClick MC 30 Torque Wrench

Hello !

I need a torque wrench with a range of 6-30 Nm for occasional amateur use. Therefore, I don`t want a super-hyper-pro tool, but also crap. The choice fell on JONNESWAY T07030N or PROXXON 23 349 MicroClick MC 30 . Please help me choose (only from those listed).

Regards.

PS If this is the wrong section, please move it to the right one.

Same shelf when it comes to accuracy. I have larger ones from both companies and so far no major problems.

I know that the same shelf is enough (and that`s enough for me). But what about workmanship and durability? Any significant differences in favor or against one of these companies in this respect?

To be honest, I wouldn`t expect any accuracy in a key for this kind of money. My opinion is that measurement tools should be of good quality. Taking measurements with imprecise tools is pointless.

1. I have the same opinion, but buying a torque wrench for a lot of money for occasional home use is pointless. It`s like buying an excavator instead of a shovel for your home garden.

2. When it comes to the two mentioned - I mean possible differences in the quality of workmanship - the durability of the rattles, materials used and similar things. Let me remind you once again - this is supposed to be for occasional "garage" work.

Choose the one you like more Or it suits the price, in this range of torques, let me be crazy, I don`t use torque wrenches. Can you use a wrench with this measurement to tighten the M-9 thread as much as possible?
For home mechanics, you need one with a range of up to 300 nM, it is more useful. It is true that pre-tightening technology is now emerging and we use a torque wrench and then tighten it to a given angle, but the scope of this limit is limited. As for accuracy, the last training on measurement technology shows that most keys, surprisingly, have an error of 3-4%, even the Chinese ones. It is more important to store the key and release the spring, as this causes decalibration.

But I need it for screws up to M-9 - so why would I need 300 Nm? I will need one and I will buy it someday, but for now I don`t need it, and it doesn`t support the range I need.

PS Pre-tightening has been around for a long time

KingTony - does not fit into the assumed budget. Ultimately, of the two mentioned in the topic, I chose Proxxon - 2 years warranty, versus 1 year warranty (Jonnesway). Especially since I already have some Proxxon tools (keys) and so far I haven`t regretted the purchase.

Thank you all for your interest and suggestions.

PS Please close the topic.

For amateur or even semi-professional use, I would recommend Prolina. I wouldn`t waste my money on something more expensive. But who will forbid the rich?

Hmm... I see that the topic is not closed, so:

1. I understand and fully support the "once and for all" purchase - but for garage work it makes absolutely no sense. I`ll freeze a lot of money in a key that won`t make money and I don`t plan for that to happen - so what`s the point?

2. Proxxon key bought - nice, tested and does its job properly. Customer satisfied. Therefore, I am asking about the sense of purchasing a dynamometric electronic overlay. I prefer the classic mechanical solution, but - out of pure curiosity - what`s the deal with these miracles? Accuracy, need for calibration? In other words, please give me your opinions for and against.

Or maybe something like this: here
It`s PLN 100 cheaper on alle.

I`m just looking for an opinion on this type of sockets. Of course, I already checked their prices before asking the question here, but the question remains as before.

Hello.
I need to buy a 1/2" torque wrench, mainly for tightening wheels (approx. 100Nm), home use. Budget up to PLN 200. What would you recommend? Yato, Coval, Jonnesway or maybe something else?

This topic may not be the freshest, but it seems to me that not only the author of the thread faces the dilemma of purchasing a torque wrench for non-professional use.

Since I use this type of tools quite often, I will share the opinion I have developed over this time.

When asked whether Proxxon or Jonnesway, I definitely say Proxxon. Especially if we are talking about wrenches with a low tightening torque range, which is the range from ~5-30Nm.

I use Proxxon to tighten M6 and M8 screws in aluminum (heads, crankcases and engine covers, etc. elements) where thread stripping often generates huge costs and the need to dismantle the engine, head and, consequently, expensive gaskets, etc.). In general, the cost of stripping a thread in a hard-to-reach place can be several times higher than the price of a torque wrench.


so for fastenings up to 30Nm it is worth investing PLN 200 more and not buying wrenches costing PLN 80-120, and certainly not dyno wrenches. tiltable. Yes, I know people who tighten long heads with such wrenches, and even without wrenches the equipment runs... only later they write that such and such an engine is crap and come up with wild theories, e.g. regarding the engines of the Italian VM.
The situation is similar with the allegedly faulty (leaking, blowing seals) KTM engines - and the problem most often is difficult access to the wrenches. with interchangeable heads (currently only Kingtons offer such a wrench and the cost of this wrench is approx. PLN 350 + PLN 50 for just one head (e.g. 13-gauge, 17-gauge flat, etc.). Generally speaking, it works... even in authorized foreign services ( Greece, France) can be such tinkerers...

Low torques and working in soft metals and alloys are always a risk of struggling with thread repair with Wurth and Helicoil sets, everything is OK if there is space, if there is no access, the matter becomes more complicated.


So are Jonnesway, Toptul and Kongtony crap? NO. These are also very good wrenches, but Proxxon is more reliable and almost guarantees service (not cheap) and availability of spare parts. Apart from that, these keys are really well made.


When it comes to tightening wheels, budget wrenches such as Bass, tengtools, etc. will work, i.e. in the range of PLN 80-130. With such torques and materials, a difference of even 10% will not significantly affect the quality of the connection.

I can only confirm. Without taking anything away from the "competition" in this price range and (amateur) applications - Proxxon is indeed "more reliable". The quality of workmanship, work culture and operation are as they should be - although the key itself initially gives the impression of a "toy".

madmax332 wrote:

The quality of workmanship, work culture and operation are as they should be - although the key itself initially gives the impression of a "toy".

I have Proxxons with this additional small eyelet where you can set the torque very precisely with an accuracy of 0.1Nm, and let me tell you, the handles seem to be less neat than in cheaper, all-metal mass models (Bass, tengtools, yato, etc.), maybe even a bit too plastic, the whole work culture of such a wrench and attention to detail make a definitely positive impression.

I also had the opportunity to "get acquainted" with Proxxon mini machine tools and I can say that they are really decent and precise devices. The same applies to tools for Proxxona mini grinders (e.g. cutting discs, abrasive discs and stones). They are a really high shelf, and Dremel, a tycoon in this field, will continue to reach them for a long time.

The only complaint I have about dynamic keys. Proxxon is that they could work a little on the ergonomics of the handle in the MicroClick MC 30 No. wrench. 23349 where the handle is the same size as in large torque wrenches (and often there are a lot of small screws in hard-to-reach or tight spaces where every additional centimeter of space makes work easier). For now, all that remains is to purchase a small-sized MicroClick MC 15 wrench (3 - 15Nm), which unfortunately involves another expense.

Sorry for refreshing too.

I need to buy a torque wrench with replaceable tips, the standard range of 40-200 Nm is sufficient.

On the one hand, I don`t want to go crazy because the key won`t be used every day at work, and on the other hand, I don`t want to buy crap noname.

The cheapest "branded" one (the name of the company that tells me something) I found Coval for about PLN 400

Jonnesway costs approximately PLN 550
Proxxon, HANS approx. PLN 700

Has anyone had any experience, especially with the COVAL product?

You certainly won`t regret adding PROXXON.

The question is how it differs from the others mentioned.

Read previous posts in the topic.

I read. There are no opinions about Coval :>

And on this forum or on the Internet?

I found conflicting opinions on the Internet. For some it is good, for others it is Chinese crap.

Szczesiu23 wrote:

I need to buy a torque wrench with replaceable tips, the standard range of 40-200 Nm is sufficient.

On the one hand, I don`t want to go crazy because the key won`t be used every day at work, and on the other hand, I don`t want to buy crap noname.

You`ve probably already purchased it, but it may be useful to someone else who is looking for a wrench with interchangeable tips ( interchangeable torque wrench/handle )...

Well, good quality and relatively inexpensive torque wrenches with replaceable tips are offered by TOPTUL, these are the following models:
a) ANAH0303 6-30Nm; dimensions of the socket for the tips: 9x12mm
b) ANAH0108 10-80Nm; pronunciation gn. 14x18
c) ANAH0121 40-210Nm dimensions. gn 14x18

The distributor for Poland and Central and Eastern Europe is Intercars. As these are the type of keys with a rather narrow clientele, sometimes it is necessary to place an order for them. Some of the above models are available in stock. Price from PLN 230-280, but you can count on a good discount.

These keys come with the bits you need (not a set like Proxxon). This may seem like a disadvantage, but... please take into account the fact that for these wrenches you can buy a ratchet tip, e.g. ANAL0412, ANAL0216, ANAL0116, etc. and you will get a classic torque wrench (we do not then have to buy a second so-called classic one with a drive 3 /8" or 1/2").

In addition, we can currently buy two types of tips for this wrench, also from TOPTUL, ANARxxxx series, ring type and ANAKxxxx flat (Proxxon sets offer only flat tips). Here we have a choice of flat and ring terminals.

Moreover, if we need such a key, we will use it for connections with limited access... e.g. motorcycle cylinders and heads. In such a case, it will be sufficient to purchase a wrench with a range of 10-80Nm. Many difficult-to-reach connections in motor vehicles range from 12Nm (screws with heads 10mm upwards) to 60Nm (screws with heads up to 19mm).
The range up to 210Nm is often exaggerated, we are talking about large screws, but there is usually good access and you can turn it with an ordinary torque wrench. with ratchet and sockets.


Alternatively, you can save yourself with the company`s invention MotionPro Adjustable Torque Wrench Adapter 08-0380 (080380). I have such a device and I appreciate it very much, but in very tight places the size limits the range of movement of the key. When purchasing this, it is worth purchasing open-end wrenches (possibly bent by a maximum of 15 degrees).

Hello
And which torque wrench for PLN 300-350 is worth considering? The range I am interested in is 20-110Nm. I plan to use it mainly for car repairs.

I was interested in TOPTUL ANAF1211 and
TOPTUL ANAM1610 with a slightly reduced tightening torque range.
I have read about this manufacturer and it usually receives good reviews.

I was considering buying a Proxxon wrench with a range from 3-15Nm and another one with a range from 10-100Nm. But this is an investment divided over time.




Regards

Toptul means reliable tools.
Especially when it comes to torque wrenches, the "confidence" parameter is important. It is a nightmare to, for example, break the M6 thread of, for example, the vacuum pump screwed to the rear wall of the head in the AWX engine of the VAG group, especially in cars with a longitudinal orientation. Repair of this thread is possible only after dismantling the head or engine (a better solution due to the unit injector seats becoming loose, head planning and millions of other activities, etc.).

Beniekk wrote:

I was interested in TOPTUL ANAF1211 and
TOPTUL ANAM1610 with a slightly reduced tightening torque range.

It is assumed that a good and reliable key is max. 5 times the minimum of the range, and the first one is 19-110Nm. A 3/8" drive and a length of 385mm are a better solution than the second and much more expensive 10-100Nm model, with a 1/2" drive that is very "clunky" for small screws and a length of over 405mm.
The smaller the key, the better, sometimes 10 mm is really missing to fit the key.

I recommend buying the first one 19-110Nm. However, for delicate connections for screws, especially M5/M6, something with the lowest possible lower torque range from 5/6Nm to 25/30Nm.
Of course, it would be optimal to find a Wera 7000A 5075393001 wrench with a range of 1-25Nm under the Christmas tree (you can buy it in Germany for about PLN 333, in Poland for at least PLN 500).


In general, do not go below King Tony, Toptul, Jonnesway, Proxxon. For large torques you can buy cheap Teng Tools. Don`t look for "Polish" and "German" Chinese. If you buy Chinese food, at least make sure it has an established brand, not one that changes every quarter .

The smaller the torques and the more turning in aluminum, the more it is worth spending on a wrench, such as Wera, Stahlwille, Beta, etc. Sometimes thread stripping costs thousands of zlotys.

It is assumed that a good and reliable key is a maximum of 5 times the minimum of the range

Where does this statement come from? Accuracy does matter, but what is more important is the repeatability of the results.

Regarding the dynamometer with replaceable tips for amateur use - this time I will recommend the JONNESWAY T30200NS set. The class of the tool is exactly the same as PROXXON and the same set is much cheaper - so why overpay?

The important (for me) arguments when choosing this time were:

The 1st JONNESWAY set has a much better ratchet.
2. You can buy a repair kit for the JONNESWAY ratchet at a reasonable price.

The rest concerned only individual preferences related to ergonomics.