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Gas hob above the electric oven, what gas line, what about the electrics?

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  • #1 14320100
    ken-wawa
    Level 12  
    Hi

    I have the following configuration - buildings, gas hob on top, electric oven under it - in a word, standard. The whole thing was connected by a guy with gas and electric powers.

    And I probably wouldn't have bothered with it at all if it wasn't for one thing...

    I turned on the oven for the first start - heating according to Amici's instructions 250 degrees and half an hour after washing the whole thing, the smell was so bad that I began to regret that I didn't have a gas mask and with the window open to the max. Second wash, steam cleaning and then a total of about 4 hours of soaking, partly at a lower temperature of 180 degrees. At present, the stench has been minor, but there is still some strange smell in a small area.

    So I started looking online for what could be the reason. There have been various hints on the newsgroups, but one mentions incorrect wiring installation. As much as possible, I put the smartphone in the hole between the adjacent cabinet under the sink and the cabinet where the oven and hob are mounted
    and the following things bother me:

    1. The gas cable is rubber (more precisely, it is not the cheapest orange cable, but a solid yellow cable, costing about PLN 150, it says EN14800 or EN14900 (I am not sure of one number), In addition, the cable is in one place on the oven Can such a cable be used in a place where it can potentially heat up (I don't think so much, because when I put my paw in, as far as possible due to lack of space, the top of the oven probably does not heat up, but the back heats up oven).

    2. Where do amica cookers have an electric cable outlet at the back? Upstairs or downstairs? After turning off the stove on 180 degrees, the oven's electrical wire was noticeably warm in one place (not hot but warm, probably from the back of the oven). The cord is pulled upwards to the cabinet where the sink is. I wonder if there is a risk of it melting at higher temperatures?

    Sorry for the layman's questions but I don't want to get in trouble later. On the other hand, I do not want to call a professional again and pay him, make myself a problem, especially since, as I wrote, it was also installed by a professional (and even stamped on warranty cards). I could theoretically download him, but probably since he did it himself, of course he will say that it's good.

    Attached are some photos that may help a bit in assessing the situation.

    Gas hob above the electric oven, what gas line, what about the electrics? Gas hob above the electric oven, what gas line, what about the electrics? Gas hob above the electric oven, what gas line, what about the electrics?
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  • #2 14320238
    Anonymous
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  • #3 14320334
    ken-wawa
    Level 12  
    skryn wrote:
    The Amica oven must "smelt", and more precisely its chamber insulation. So it has to be.
    Bake it ten times (cake, meat) and it will stink.
    The insulation of the oven is soaked in a special preparation. Ecological, though eye-catching... :)


    You don't talk to me about ecology, since the window in the kitchen is open to the max, I am in the other room and the door is closed, and the stench got so bad that it made my head hurt. :D

    Apart from the topic of the smell, it would be good to get an answer to both questions 1) is the gas pipe ok in a situation of risk of heating 2) and where do amica ovens have an electric cable exit (at the back top or bottom)?
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    Anonymous
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  • #5 14323121
    ken-wawa
    Level 12  
    A professional stamped the warranty card (both for the oven and the cooker).

    That's what I wrote at the very beginning, but that's not what I'm asking about. Please read my question carefully.
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    Anonymous
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  • #7 14328719
    jack63
    Level 43  
    ken-wawa wrote:
    the stench was such that I began to wish I had a gas mask (and with the window open to the max).
    skryn wrote:
    The insulation of the oven is soaked in a special preparation. Ecological, though eye-catching...

    Gentlemen, are there any jokes with this "ecology"?
    Some time ago I bought a built-in oven at IKEA. The cupboard as well. As it turned out, the oven is of Polish production (!) and ... after starting it (without a service technician - by hand) it smelled slightly (!). The oven has been working for almost two years. Nothing smells except ..unintentionally burnt fat!
    Is my oven UN-ECOLOGICAL??? If so, then I have something like that.
    @KEN-wawa I'm asking for formalities. Are the oven, hob and furniture compatible? Is it an oven and a built-in hob? Is this construction done correctly? These are ventilation holes/slits. In general, about the entire construction of the cabinet / fek
    In my case, the elements constituted a designed set. And how is it with you.
    I do not want to speak authoritatively, but for me a rubber gas hose, even armed, is not a good idea in this situation. I may be cracking, but...
  • #8 14339145
    ken-wawa
    Level 12  
    jack63 wrote:
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    @KEN-wawa I'm asking for formalities. Are the oven, hob and furniture compatible? Is it an oven and a built-in hob? Is this construction done correctly? These are ventilation holes/slits. In general, about the entire construction of the cabinet / fek
    In my case, the elements constituted a designed set. And how is it with you.
    I do not want to speak authoritatively, but for me a rubber gas hose, even armed, is not a good idea in this situation. I may be cracking, but...


    Of course I have no certainty. According to the oven instructions, the furniture should be prepared for a temperature of 100 degrees. But I assume that since the furniture comes from a large nationwide company, it should rather be like that.

    Fortunately, the oven now only smells faintly. Perhaps in my case the long gap between the purchase of the oven and its first use was also of some importance (a dozen or so months, life sometimes brings surprises).

    But it's also probably just Amica uploaded some dirty stuff. The more so that from what I read on the net, I am not the only one complaining about this smell at the first start.

    What brand of oven do you have?

    As for the hose, I asked in several places selling this hose model - they all say that there is metal inside and that it is suitable for mounting above the oven and under the hob. I guess I'll be fine with further investigation. I must admit, though, that it makes me nervous.
  • #9 14339244
    jack63
    Level 43  
    ken-wawa wrote:
    What brand of oven do you have?

    I do not know. :D I bought it at IKEA and it had some pagan name, but on the plate on the back it said "Made in Poland". I don't want to take it out just to read this tablet again. Sorry.
    ken-wawa wrote:
    As for the hose, I asked in several places selling this hose model - they all say that there is metal inside and that it is suitable for mounting above the oven and under the hob.

    There must be rubber there. It's about something flexible but airtight. The braid only protects mechanically. Maybe these hoses have "homologation" for higher temp. ???
    About the cupboard. At the bottom, above the plinth, I have a drawer. There is a gap of about 10 mm between the front of the drawer and the bottom of the oven. A similar gap is between the top of the oven door and the body of the control panel. The oven has a fan that cools the space around it - behind the insulation. The indoor fan is completely different. Thanks to this fan, strong warm air comes out through the upper slot. It works even after the oven is turned off until the temperature inside the cabinet is lowered.
    I don't know what piece of furniture you have, but mine looks well thought out and I have no problems with either the induction hob (it has overheating sensors) or the adjacent cabinets.
  • #10 14340593
    Anonymous
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  • #11 14341874
    ken-wawa
    Level 12  
    jack63 wrote:

    There must be rubber there. It's about something flexible but airtight. The braid only protects mechanically. Maybe these hoses have "homologation" for higher temp. ???


    Maybe, but that's why I asked here. But no one spoke professionally. For example, when I started reading the oven manuals, some manufacturers write that the cable is also resistant to a temperature of 100 degrees. But for example Amica in the manual is silent whether their cable has any resistance. There are also no recommendations as to whether and how the cable should be placed behind the oven, above the oven, under the oven, etc.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the installation of a gas hob above an electric oven, specifically an Amica model, and the unpleasant odors experienced during its initial use. Users suggest that the smell may be due to the oven's insulation, which is treated with an ecological preparation that can emit odors when heated. Concerns are raised about the safety of the gas line in relation to heat exposure and the proper placement of the electric cable. The conversation also touches on the compatibility of the oven and hob with the cabinetry, as well as the potential for the gas hose to withstand high temperatures. Users share experiences with similar products and express the need for clearer manufacturer guidelines regarding installation and safety.
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