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Sharp LC-40LE824E - Flickering backlight after approx. 1 hour of operation

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  • #1 14745733
    artur0_n
    Level 23  
    Hello,

    I have a TV Sharp LC-40LE824E, for several days I have had a flicker of the screen after about 1 - 1.30 hours of viewing. After switching off the TV for some time and switching it back on, the effect disappears but returns after about 1 hour.

    Will erasing errors in the service menu help something? How to get to this menu?

    Possibly if it's the hardware fault, the reason lies in the power supply?
    The power supply model is: DPS-126CP-1A.

    I am asking for a solution to the problem.

    greetings
    Artur
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  • #2 14745828
    lisek
    Service technician RTV
    Here in this SM is not described Link or the second commonly available ftp://helpedia.com/pub/temp/datasheets/monitors/Sharp/Sharp_LC-40LE814E_LC-46LE814_LC-40LE824E_LC-46LE824E_[SM].pdf

    Verify and give what you have at home: descriptions with T-con, matrix and power supply.
    Provide a set of integrated circuits in the power supply.
  • #3 14745920
    artur0_n
    Level 23  
    I do not know what I'm doing wrong but I can not get to MS.
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  • #4 14745937
    bogred
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Arczizioom wrote:
    I do not know what I'm doing wrong

    For now, it's probably the wrong model TV :cry:
  • #5 14745999
    artur0_n
    Level 23  
    In fact, two numbers escaped me. I've already corrected.
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  • #6 14746139
    mirex
    Level 43  
    Arczizioom wrote:
    I do not know what I'm doing wrong but I can not get to MS.

    Do you think a little? ;)
    Well tell us how do we know what you are doing wrong, if you do not know what you are doing?
    Or maybe fortunately you can not enter?
    Arczizioom wrote:
    Will erasing errors in the service menu help something?

    No.
    Arczizioom wrote:
    Possibly, if it's the hardware fault, the reason lies in the power supply?

    Maybe.
    In others too.

    Maybe you just need to use basic diagnostic tools? At least for the beginning.
  • #7 14746167
    artur0_n
    Level 23  
    mirex wrote:
    Maybe you just need to use basic diagnostic tools? At least for the beginning.


    Friend, what do you propose?
  • #8 14746182
    mirex
    Level 43  
    Multimeter. Possibly only a voltmeter.
    The oscilloscope to check the backlight control would also be suitable.

    You could still raise the temperature, you might not have to wait an hour for special effects. ;)
  • #9 14757834
    adaminka22
    Level 16  
    I had such a defect and the backlight itself was to blame.
    The fault occurred differently once in an hour and sometimes once in a few days.
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    #10 14779193
    markowiecm
    Level 11  
    Buddy check the temperature of the black heat sink in the RUNTKA685WJQZ power supply. Take a fan and chill it. The KIA378R12PI stabilizer is overheated under it. Alternatively, to determine the cause, heat the heat sink with a hot air dryer or dryer, otherwise it will dissipate the heat with the cover and otherwise without it. You will not have to wait an hour. :D Check if the backlight starts going crazy and returns to normal after cooling down. Read my last post in the topic www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3047339.html
    For the future:
    Regarding the service menu on on TV, you hold the button for 6 seconds until the LED on the TV flashes. Only then the inverter switches off completely. Later normally as in the service center;
    VOL-, INPUT, PWR to K mode then
    VOL-, CH- to service mode.

    If it turns out that after removing the power supply from the TV later does not want to catch the backlight the same way on the TV switched on you hold PWR until the LED flashes, then you press CH + and PWR.

    But do not bury anything. Already, not one TV was slaughtered in MS and if there is no need to advise against going there. If the fault confirms, the backlight errors caused by this do not write down, at least I did not meet with it. The above-mentioned solution will solve the problem. Write or helped :D Regards!
  • #11 14779705
    artur0_n
    Level 23  
    I think you're right, after heating and cooling the heat sink, the effect appears or disappears. I will order this stabilizer and replace it.
  • #12 14779732
    markowiecm
    Level 11  
    The stabilizer you still have a good :D reason for overheating is a terrible heat sink. You'll admit it is crap. Most likely, he let the thread gently. Be careful that when lifting the heat sink, do not release the noun of the Chinese ap6679g because it is expensive and hard to reach. The stabilizer must be kia378r12pi has max Io = 3A and the regular KA78R12 has only 1A. It's best to settle the matter by changing the paste and buying longer screws and spring washers with a nut and screw it over, and thread the thread even with nail polish :D
    Alternatively, if the TV is exposed to poor airflow, add passive or active cooling.
  • #13 14779749
    artur0_n
    Level 23  
    And this is already strange, because after the appearance of the defect I changed the paste on the MX2 and tightened everything to the max and on all 3 heat sinks.

    I will try to tighten something to this heat sink. Preventively I drilled some holes at the very top of the case in the warmest place for better cooling.

    In addition, I had the same symptom as you, regarding the flashing of the matrix backlight after turning off the TV.
  • #14 14779764
    markowiecm
    Level 11  
    The stabilizer you have available at north.pl is cheap. The most important thing is that the topic seems to be solved. As a symptom, I can still give up the momentary lack of signal by HDMI from time to time and the ECO system's vortex. And when the stabilizer is gone, no voltage 12V on t-con. 2 long and 5 short diodes flashing.
  • #15 14779773
    artur0_n
    Level 23  
    I did not notice the lack of video on HDMI. And on the ECO system the fault intensified.

    I will replace the stabilizer in a preventive way and improve cooling.

    Thanks for the help.
  • #16 14779813
    markowiecm
    Level 11  
    Check / replace the C7972c capacitor. For my part, I would like to add that the RUNTKA685WJQZ and the RUNTKA686WJQZ twin units are used in different Sharpa TV models and the symptoms of the feler are identical. The topic will certainly help someone else.
  • #17 14829784
    artur0_n
    Level 23  
    Hello,

    I'm coming back with the topic. Despite the efforts to cool as much as possible, the black heat sink still occurs. I replaced the previously indicated stabilizer and increased the radiator surface. Additionally, getting rid of paint in places where elements meet.

    An additional defect that I observed after some time when it blinks stops and locks at the highest brightness, the brightness adjustment in the TV menu does not work.

    The conclusion is that some TV element consumes more power while overheating this stabilizer.

    At the moment the only thing that comes to my mind is to add a fan. The only question is what to feed it to turn on when turning on the TV and turned it off when turning off the TV. It's best that it is not 12V and about 8V.

    Possibly where to look for the fault?

    greetings
    Artur
  • #18 14829842
    lisek
    Service technician RTV
    Provide ICs in your PSU.


    RUNTKA686WJQZ to DPS-141CP 1A> somewhere I have MS, then I will find and give it in diagrams
    IC7601 DDA002C
    IC7702 DDA003A-5G240
    IC7801 NCP1608 * PFC

    Sharp LC-40LE824E - Flickering backlight after approx. 1 hour of operation

    __________
    In Sharp LC-40LE820M with RUNTKA687WJQZ the problem was with IC7003 (MIC5209-5.0YS) + elements C7928, C7961A, D7907, R7939, ... * ambient measurements

    Sharp LC-40LE824E - Flickering backlight after approx. 1 hour of operation

    (' :!: ') This stabilizer heats up because you put on "classic" >> it has to be LDO (low-drop) small voltage drop between input / output. IC
  • #19 14829921
    mirex
    Level 43  
    lisek wrote:
    (' :!: ') This stabilizer warms up because you assume "classic" >> it has to be LDO (low-drop) small voltage drop between input / output. IC

    Who told you that he was moving at all? ;)
  • #22 14832233
    mirex
    Level 43  
    If you read what people have to say, not just the titles of topics and the first sentence, you would know and not poison. ;)

    In addition, there is a specific effect, and the exchange itself has not changed anything.

    It's just that ... conclusions @smkowiecm not necessarily right. Though he supposedly helped in his case.
    I will ask, so naively, because it seems so simple that it's funny ...
    - what prevents you from removing the stabilizer from the shared heat sink and giving it to another. Or even screw to the plates. And then continue to look.
  • #23 14833023
    artur0_n
    Level 23  
    On the forum I found information that after processing the power supply will go eg RUNTKA847WJN1. Can anyone confirm this information?
  • #24 14833218
    mirex
    Level 43  
    After processing, many can "go". ;)

    Can you confirm unambiguously , that the cause of this fault is the overheating stabilizer 12V ??

    Or maybe in a different way ... though timidly, I will ask.
    What connection with the backlight have the elements on this heat sink?
  • #25 14950917
    etel serwis rtv
    Level 12  
    VR7701 check or increase gently value.
  • #26 14959333
    artur0_n
    Level 23  
    What should be its standard value?
  • #27 14959874
    etel serwis rtv
    Level 12  
    About 3k, but with the aging of the diodes, the value of the diode current changes and the value of r must be increased.
  • #28 15032189
    artur0_n
    Level 23  
    With me it was 2.11k and I increased it to about 3.5k. After this treatment, the backlighting slightly increased the brightness. The question is how to choose the right value?
  • #29 15034321
    etel serwis rtv
    Level 12  
    With the aging of the LEDs, the operating point changes. You need to choose the value of PR so that it does not flicker.
  • #30 15051243
    artur0_n
    Level 23  
    The issue still exists. To make it more interesting if the TV is on the footer and the space behind the TV is bigger then it works correctly even 2-3 hours (I have not tested more). I've run out of ideas for him.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the Sharp LC-40LE824E television experiencing a flickering backlight after approximately 1 to 1.5 hours of operation. Users suggest that the issue may be related to overheating components, particularly the power supply (DPS-126CP-1A) and the KIA378R12PI stabilizer. Recommendations include checking the temperature of the power supply's heat sink, using diagnostic tools like multimeters and oscilloscopes, and potentially replacing the stabilizer or improving cooling with fans. Some users have reported success in resolving flickering by disabling automatic brightness settings and enhancing cooling solutions. The conversation also touches on the importance of proper airflow and the potential need for component replacements.
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