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Understanding WiFi Repeaters: Increasing Range, MAC Address Access & Secured Networks

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  • #1 14937879
    c4r0
    Level 36  
    I have a question about how wifi repeaters work. I need to increase the range of the wifi network, but it is a controlled and secured network in such a way that only specific MAC addresses have access and it is generally inadvisable to combine things, such as connecting a laptop which will be a hotspot for other devices. It is not an option to set up a router that would be visible in the network and then transfer the Internet connection to other devices. Thought I'd put a repeater or a few in a row if needed. I always thought they were invisible and just stupid signal amplifiers. If this were the case, the device connected to the repeater would be seen by the network in exactly the same way as if it were connected directly to the "mother's network". But I have just read that this new "extended" network often has to have a different SSID than the "mother", which means that such a repeater is practically a router and will have its own IP, MAC etc ...? How is it in the end?
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    #3 14938666
    michalB6
    Level 11  
    Hey

    First you connect it to your computer and through a simple interface you choose the network you want to connect to and enter the password. Later, you disconnect it from the computer, move it to a convenient place (one where there is still coverage of your main network) and give it power. The device you want to connect (let's call it a laptop) has the name of your main network's SSID and password. Now your laptop sees the same network running on the same password and automatically connects to it.
    Repeater - as each network device has its own unique MAC address and if the access is given by the MAC address it will be hard ..

    Besides, you have to reckon with a significant packet loss - and if you connect through several such points, the quality of the connection will drop dramatically (assuming that the admin will allow an additional few MAC addresses to connect to the network because each repeater is one mac address).
  • #4 14938858
    c4r0
    Level 36  
    I count with a loss, I only mean getting some contact with the world, so even if it will be effective at the end, e.g. 256kbps, that's ok. the page where you have to log in to unblock internet access? Is it workable by a repeater? It's about a network at work. Normally I have wifi in the building, but my lab is in the basement so nothing can get there. I can try to push the IT department to install a router there, but maybe if I stick one repeater into the wall on each floor above me, I can do it myself? :P
  • #5 14939161
    michalB6
    Level 11  
    From a theoretical point of view, it should rattle without a problem :)
  • #6 14939228
    matek451
    Level 43  
    It will be raving, but between floors, the user of such a breakneck combination, to the devices to restart them, like the whole "intricate" network will fall like a house of cards. Cable to the basement and not such fun with several repeaters.
    Helpful post? Buy me a coffee.
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    #7 14939255
    Ricoh_220

    Level 38  
    The situation that I encountered recently at the Ibis hotel in Krakow may be a problem.
    Every 24h, the wifi password changes there, if you have it, unfortunately you have to change the password on the Repeater and agree with the IT specialists to allow the MAC address of the device to be admitted to the network.
    If possible, really tighten the cable, this will be the best option.
  • #8 14939259
    kokapetyl
    Level 43  
    Ricoh_220 wrote:
    The situation I encountered recently at the hotel may be a problem

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    c4r0 wrote:
    It's about a network at work

    And I don't think it is changing all the time.
    A colleague's solution @ matek451
    It would be most sensible.
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  • #10 14940305
    c4r0
    Level 36  
    matek451 wrote:
    If it's a serious company, any ideas with repeaters shouldn't even take place. Internet is used for work and stability is the key.
    This company is a polytechnic :P Assess its seriousness yourself, but whoever was in this sauce knows how easy it is to get along with people managing IT :P

    Ricoh_220 wrote:
    Every 24h, the wifi password changes there, if you have it, unfortunately you have to change the password on the Repeater and agree with the IT specialists to allow the MAC address of the device to be admitted to the network.
    There is no such situation.

    matek451 wrote:
    Basement cable, not so much fun with a few repeaters.
    Maybe it will end anyway, but to bring it legally, I would have to get along with IT, that is, probably order installation from them, so I can just as well order a hotspot installation (which, by the way, involves laying the cable anyway).

    Okay, maybe let's go back to the original question, can anyone answer the question in one sentence: is the repeater a stupid device that only amplifies the radio signal, the presence of which cannot be seen in the network (like a hub)? Or maybe it works more like a router, i.e. it is a device visible in the network and connecting through it is not the same as connecting directly?
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    #11 14940532
    michalB6
    Level 11  
    Every network device has its own unique MAC address and is visible on every network.
  • #12 14940772
    c4r0
    Level 36  
    Okay, so it works differently than I hoped. Thanks for the help :)

Topic summary

WiFi repeaters are devices designed to amplify and extend the range of a wireless network. They connect to the main network and create an extended network, which may require a different SSID and has its own unique MAC address. This can complicate access in secured networks that restrict connections based on MAC addresses. Users should be aware of potential packet loss when using multiple repeaters, as each repeater introduces latency and may reduce overall connection quality. In controlled environments, such as workplaces, it is advisable to consult IT departments for proper integration and to consider wired solutions for stability. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding the operational differences between repeaters and routers, emphasizing that repeaters are visible on the network and not merely passive signal amplifiers.
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