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Dividing Power from a Single 3x1.5mm Outlet to Septic Tank Level Sensor & Central Heating Station

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  • #1 15204354
    ziomallo11
    Level 8  
    I have a box in the garage for a socket with 3 wires (3x1.5mm). There was a need to supply power to two other places (septic tank level sensor and to the central heating switching station to some head closing the central heating circuit after reaching the temperature on the sensor). Since the cable leading to the socket is on the floor and there is no spout, I would like to use this cable to branch the power supply. The question is whether I can cut the cable and the phase conductor into the quick coupler and then let the phase conductors into the socket box and the other two new places, and whether the same should be done with the N and PE conductors, i.e. all PE to one quick coupler and all N to one quick coupler. Is the solution also acceptable?
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  • #2 15204400
    Akrzy74
    Rest in Peace
    ziomallo11 wrote:
    I have a box in the garage for a socket with 3 wires (3x1.5mm)

    A 3x2.5mm wire should be connected to the socket.
    ziomallo11 wrote:
    Because the cable going to the socket

    Wires are laid in the plaster, not cables.

    Since there is no spout yet, new wires must be laid for the new circuits.
    ziomallo11 wrote:
    Is the solution also acceptable?

    Not.
  • #3 15204425
    ziomallo11
    Level 8  
    Since there is no spout yet, new wires must be laid for the new circuits.
    ziomallo11 wrote:
    Is the solution also acceptable?



    Sorry you are right .. There are 3x2.5mm wires going to the socket. There is no screed but I would have to forge the plaster. I understand that anyway such a connection will not work for you?
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  • #4 15204444
    Akrzy74
    Rest in Peace
    ziomallo11 wrote:
    Since there is no spout yet, new wires must be laid for the new circuits.

    All in all, I wrote it, but I'm glad my friend shares the same opinion.
    ziomallo11 wrote:
    I understand that anyway such a connection will not work for you?

    It will not work properly.

    Reminder: The operation of the electrical installation (including the implementation of assembly works) may only be performed by persons who have a valid Qualification Certificate for the operation of electrical devices.
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  • #5 15205078
    Radiowiec 2
    Level 31  
    Let my colleagues that although this is not my favorite section, I will suggest something to the author. In my opinion, you have to make three separate circuits for each socket separately. Each wire in the board had to be secured with a separate S. I know that it is "rich" but the electrical equipment is not tragically expensive and you can ask an electrician to do it once and properly and for fifteen years it will be calm. The worst plague is turning on all sockets on one fuse. Then something will not play in the garage (or elsewhere) and S-ka or RCD will "crash" three circuits, then it will turn out that, for example, the stove is not working and it is cold in the cottage because it happened in the morning and everyone was out of the house. In addition, the sockets are run with a 2.5 mm square cable. A 1.5 mm square cable is used to make lighting and you need to calculate the load because up to six lamps (depending on the "school"), but it turns out that these new bulbs have a starting current greater than the old ones, in fact, are one thing. You just have to stick to the norms and good practice, as my colleagues previously advised and use mathematics, otherwise ... I don't want to scare you, but I witnessed how the electronics in the oven once went out and you had to put out the fire. It's a pity for words, these are not jokes. :|
  • #6 15206763
    ziomallo11
    Level 8  
    Yesterday I had an electrician. A guy of 60 years and, as far as I know, 30 years of internship, full powers. I am asking if it is necessary to hammer the plaster and make new circuits. Answer: "Why can you use a socket, septic tank detectors and this controller from one circuit?" And he said that he would do as I wrote here. I do not know electricity, so I do not defend his opinion or yours. In electricity you can see, as in every field, what a specialist has a different opinion.
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  • #7 15208116
    TWK
    Electrician specialist
    ziomallo11 wrote:
    In electricity you can see, as in every field, what a specialist has a different opinion.
    But the standards and regulations are one, and everyone should follow the same. In case of problems, "30 years of internship, full qualifications" does not count, but the compliance of the installation with the standards, regulations and rules of technical knowledge.

    Connecting any wires in the screed (and probably without access to the connection) is asking for trouble! I advise against this solution.
  • #8 15208298
    mawerix123
    Level 39  
    ziomallo11 wrote:
    Yesterday I had an electrician. A guy of 60 years and, as far as I know, 30 years of internship


    It looks like he is still doing what he did in the 1980s with the whole house on one fuse :)
  • #9 15208542
    ziomallo11
    Level 8  
    TWK wrote:
    ziomallo11 wrote:
    In electricity you can see, as in every field, what a specialist has a different opinion.
    But the standards and regulations are one, and everyone should follow the same. In case of problems, "30 years of internship, full qualifications" does not count, but the compliance of the installation with the standards, regulations and rules of technical knowledge.

    Connecting any wires in the screed (and probably without access to the connection) is asking for trouble! I advise against this solution.

    ,
    No, in the spout, he will not combine it. He will make a can just above the spout so as not to chip the plaster and there he will make the same connection that I wrote about.

    I can assure you that it is not about the whole house on one security, as someone wrote here. I wrote what this power supply will be for

    greetings

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of branching power from a single 3x1.5mm outlet to supply a septic tank level sensor and a central heating station. Participants emphasize the importance of adhering to electrical standards and regulations, suggesting that using a single circuit for multiple devices may not be safe. Recommendations include running separate circuits for each device to prevent overload and ensure reliability. Concerns are raised about the qualifications of electricians and the potential risks of improper installations, with a consensus that new wiring should be laid out properly rather than relying on existing connections.
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