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Wall cistern - concealed - the cistern is leaking - how to remove the button - p

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  • #1 15312377
    RocoBlanco
    Level 9  
    Does anyone know the model / type of a concealed / wall cistern shown in the photo and knows how to remove the button to get inside. I do not know how to dismantle it and therefore I cannot remove the cause of the water dripping.
    I am asking for your suggestions. My water is leaking every time and I have to do some miracles to make it stop, but it only works once :cry: Maybe someone has already repaired it, or he does it professionally (plumbers connect :) and can tell you how to deal with it. I don't want to tear anything off.

    I would be grateful for the tips :D
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  • #2 15312387
    matrixneo007
    Level 30  
    What model is it? Please send some photos.
  • #3 15312438
    RocoBlanco
    Level 9  
    I paste the photo of the button.
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  • #4 15312501
    Zbych034
    Level 39  
    In general, you slightly lift the button up and take it off.
  • #5 15312768
    matrixneo007
    Level 30  
    For me it is right and up and I have to put in a little force.
  • #6 15314354
    RocoBlanco
    Level 9  
    Thank you Zbych034 and matrixneo007.
    But should I move all (all plastic) upwards or only the part that I push to start the flush? :?:
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  • #7 15314423
    matrixneo007
    Level 30  
    I have a little different, but not the buttons, all the plastic, this panel is like that for me.

    Added after 10 [minutes]:

    Search here and you will find the same, we will find out what model it will help us. You may be completely different than yours.
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  • #8 15314732
    RocoBlanco
    Level 9  
    Ok thank you matrixneo007. But where should I search because you haven't pasted any link?
  • #10 15315170
    RocoBlanco
    Level 9  
    Thank you. Unfortunately, I do not know the brand. I bought the house already finished so I don't know what brand it is :) )

    Added after 15 [minutes]:

    It's probably an older model (maybe 10 years old so I don't know if I can find it). But I will be looking. At Uncle Google's too :)
  • #11 15319503
    RocoBlanco
    Level 9  
    If someone has such a button / concealed cistern at home or repairs such cisterns, please let me know what this model is. I have not found an identical model on the network and I still do not know how to remove the button.
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    #12 15319826
    saskia
    Level 39  
    RocoBlanco wrote:
    If someone has such a button / concealed cistern at home or repairs such cisterns, please let me know what this model is. I have not found an identical model on the network and I still do not know how to remove the button.


    It is not about the flush model, but the flush button.
    Take a picture where the button is placed in relation to the toilet bowl itself. This will allow you to assess whether it is a pneumatic button, a cable or a direct mechanical button directly on the cistern.
    On the other hand, most of these buttons are quite large and they are also a panel covering the access to the cistern in case of failure.
    Most often, the cover is mounted on latches, but sometimes it is screwed with screws covered with buttons only.
    If you have feeling in your hands then you can find the attachment points by gently prying the edges of the cover around, looking at where it stays firmly attached.
    You can also try to gently pry any of the buttons with two flat screwdrivers or the tips of table knives.
    You have to do it gently and with feeling so as not to damage any latches.
  • #13 15912055
    annem
    Level 1  
    I have to renew the topic, because I have not found an answer what is the flush model.
    I also have the same one in the apartment I bought and I don't know how to take it off. I need to replace the panel with a new one. Can you buy it somewhere?
    I am planning to replace the toilet bowl and I am wondering if I need to replace the entire frame or if I can replace it with the old one.
  • #14 15965898
    RocoBlanco
    Level 9  
    Unfortunately, I still haven't been able to disassemble the button. Maybe my friend saskia will help somehow. Or someone else :) I put in additional photos of the whole and a better photo of the button. The distance between the lower edge of the button and the upper contour of the toilet bowl is 51 cm. Button dimensions: width: 33cm / height: 19cm. Thank you for the tips on what model it is and how to disassemble it.

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    Wall cistern - concealed - the cistern is leaking - how to remove the button - p Wall cistern - concealed - the cistern is leaking - how to remove the button - p
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    #15 15965960
    aaanteka
    Level 42  
    It resembles cheap models available for promotion in supermarket chains. Usually, with these promotional items, a few years ago I encountered the problem of breaking hooks. Professionals dealt with this drawback with the help of glue or silicone. Some people do it on purpose to this day in order to have a job and a move in the interest.

    Another thing, why have you been taking such a long time to dismantle it? The reason for disassembly is usually a failure, and it is rather difficult to live with it for so many months.
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  • #16 15973366
    RocoBlanco
    Level 9  
    Thanks for the hint. I have two more bathrooms so I have no pressure :)
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    #17 15979595
    malinowy777
    Level 10  
    I have the same button and I was able to remove it.
    He hangs on such struts on springs. It has to be moved upwards.

    However, I need to replace it because the hinges / catches are broken, as my colleague said earlier.

    Everywhere I asked for a new or replacement, I hear the question "what is this company"? Even after disassembling, no brand or model is visible there.

    I am attaching a few photos, maybe someone will be able to identify the manufacturer. I will be very grateful. Can you possibly recommend where to ask? Some old warehouse from 2000-2003. I asked in major DIY stores and they don't know.

    @RocoBlanco, or would you like to sell your button?
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    #18 15979617
    aaanteka
    Level 42  
    So what Raspberry 777- broke the button, did you disassemble it properly? :D
    And seriously, for aesthetic purposes, there are really great paints - you can even give the material a velvet, suede, plush structure.
    As for the button model and the brand, as I wrote, it is impossible to achieve - the product was most likely commissioned by the market.
    For a moderate price, it has rather lived up to expectations - 10 years of work is a good result.
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    #19 15984452
    malinowy777
    Level 10  
    @aaanteka, No, I didn't broke the button. It is very easy to disassemble. such

    I don't really understand what the masses mean with these paints. How would it help repair the button?

    I just have to find such a button or a replacement because another option is to renovate the bathroom.

    @RocoBlanco, after the photos I can see that you have two such buttons. Maybe you would sell one?
  • #20 15985701
    aaanteka
    Level 42  
    Then what was your offer of redemption from the author?
  • #21 15986871
    malinowy777
    Level 10  
    Because the button is damaged and I can not repair it or buy a replacement.

    It has broken with normal use, not with disassembly.
  • #22 15989223
    RocoBlanco
    Level 9  
    malinowy777 - thank you for your post. I will try to disassemble it. Anything else I should know about the disassembly method? Up does it mean to move the button on both sides at the same time without skewing / skewing and moving away from the tiles?
    As for your redemption proposal, there are two pictures of the same button :)
    Yes, I have two such buttons, but in two bathrooms. One is operational and the other is the one that I want to disassemble and check what is the cause of the cistern leak.
    Best regards.
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    #23 15990318
    malinowy777
    Level 10  
    @RocoBlanco, now I'm looking at this disassembled button and I think I wrote it wrong before.

    It turns out that you have to move the whole front panel DOWN (not up) and swing it out of the lower hooks.

    I can't check it because I have the button disassembled myself, and the flush is in another apartment.

    I am enclosing a photo so you can see what it looks like from below.

    Wall cistern - concealed - the cistern is leaking - how to remove the button - p
  • #24 15993743
    RocoBlanco
    Level 9  
    raspberry 777

    Thank you if I don't know what :) I was able to remove the button according to your directions and photos in 10 seconds. For me, nothing is damaged / broken in the button itself, so the problem is probably in the adjustment of the screws responsible for the pressure of the buttons.

    I post pictures of my button. For me, they look a bit different because the pushers are mounted on permanently connected plastic triangular plastics. Maybe this will come in handy for how to fix your button.

    Or maybe post an advertisement with a photo on the Electrode, Gumtree or OLX in the "I'll buy" option. Maybe someone is good at disassembling or from stocks from a few years ago.
    By the way, during the next renovation or construction, I will buy one as a spare (it is not a property, and then peace of mind :)

    Best regards and thank you again for sharing your knowledge and experiences. If I can help somehow, write it.



    aaanteka

    Thank you for the information that this is an old, market model, not available for purchase. It helped me not to disassemble the panel by force, without knowing where the tabs are. If I broke something, I wouldn't have anywhere to buy it :)

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    As for disassembly, you actually need to move the panel with buttons down - gently and without pulling it towards you. Rather, even pressing lightly against the tiles / walls. It comes out without any problem. Then, when it comes out of the buttons, slightly tilt in the direction in which it bends.
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  • #25 15993944
    malinowy777
    Level 10  
    @RocoBlanco, my button looked exactly like yours :-) this is where my problem is that the triangular pusher tabs have broken.
  • #26 15997481
    RocoBlanco
    Level 9  
    All that remains is to buy the entire button on advertising / auction sites or to make extra plexiglass and glue such triangles. If you need more detailed photos or dimensions of these parts, let me know.
  • #27 16022822
    mirooberi
    Level 1  
    Hello, I have a similar problem. The button broke, did you find an equivalent - producer ?? best regards
  • #28 16086216
    RocoBlanco
    Level 9  
    For me, the adjustments on the bolts, however, did not help, so it remains to get the float and gaskets and clean it from limescale / deposits or replace it.
  • #29 16215539
    andype
    Level 10  
    RocoBlanco wrote:
    Unfortunately, I still haven't been able to disassemble the button. Maybe my friend saskia will help somehow. Or someone else :) I put in additional photos of the whole and a better photo of the button. The distance between the lower edge of the button and the upper contour of the toilet bowl is 51 cm. Button dimensions: width: 33cm / height: 19cm. Thank you for the tips on what model it is and how to disassemble it.
    Added after 2 [minutes]:
    Wall cistern - concealed - the cistern is leaking - how to remove the button - p Wall cistern - concealed - the cistern is leaking - how to remove the button - p


    The button is always at the same height no matter how it is triggered. I mean, of course, standard flushing cisterns only for the disabled and some special flushing systems at a different height. I will send photos to a friend, maybe he will recognize what a miracle and let me know.
  • #30 16220821
    andype
    Level 10  
    It is a SIAMP cistern. Parts for this miracle are owned by the service technicians of the Koło company

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a leaking concealed wall cistern and the difficulties faced in removing the flush button to access the internal components for repair. Users share various methods for button removal, including lifting and prying techniques, and emphasize the importance of identifying the model for effective troubleshooting. Some participants suggest that the button may be a generic or older model, complicating the search for replacement parts. Recommendations include checking for screws or latches that may be hidden and using gentle pressure to avoid damage. The conversation also touches on the need for potential replacement parts, with mentions of specific brands and models, including a reference to a SIAMP cistern and parts associated with the Koło company.
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