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No Electricity in Apartment After Short Circuit: Troubleshooting Automatic & Ceramic Plugs

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  • #1 15344653
    gossseba
    Level 8  
    Hello. My problem is that I made a short circuit by connecting the light switch (I did not turn off the plugs). I have a new installation in my apartment, automatic plugs. After connecting the above-mentioned switch, I went to the switchboard to turn on the plugs that popped out during a short circuit. Unfortunately, there was no reaction. There is no electricity in the contacts and there is no light. I looked at the cage and all the plugs are on. "Eska" is only on the ground floor, our first floor has old ceramic (white) plugs. They are also intact. Is there any way to check for yourself why there is no electricity, or is it better to call an electrician?
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  • #2 15344679
    marian1981.02
    Unitra equipment specialist
    Call an electrician. Some fuse must be broken / off.
  • #3 15344746
    rafi84
    Level 24  
    Footballers have plugs, we have fuses or circuit breakers, if you have all the fuses at home, most likely it has blown or turned off (depends on whether you have a Bi fuse or an S-type switch) pre-meter protection. If you are not familiar with this and you do not know what is squeaking in the grass, it is better to call an electrician.
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  • #4 15344831
    gossseba
    Level 8  
    Unfortunately, I do not have a multimeter. As for the pre-meter protection, I do not see this on the floor in the box. Just those ceramic fuses. The first floor is the same, only the ground floor has an S type. At least I think so. I think I will have to call an electrician tomorrow because I have no idea about it.
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  • #5 15344904
    opornik7
    Electrician specialist
    gossseba wrote:
    My problem is that I made a short circuit by connecting the light switch (I did not turn off the plugs). I have a new installation in my apartment, automatic plugs. After connecting the above-mentioned switch, I went to the switchboard to turn on the plugs that popped out during a short circuit.

    Are you sure you know what you are writing about?
    Your "switch" could only turn on the lighting and not cause a short circuit.
  • #6 15344921
    wojciech80
    Level 19  
    gossseba wrote:
    Unfortunately, I do not have a multimeter. As for the pre-meter protection, I do not see this on the floor in the box. Just those ceramic fuses. The first floor is the same, only the ground floor has an S type. At least I think so. I think I will have to call an electrician tomorrow because I have no idea about it.


    Hello,

    You wrote that you have no voltage in the sockets and the lighting circuit.
    What kind of installation do you have 3-phase or 1-phase. Do you have any tension at home?
    If not that triggered the metering protection, then you must have made a large short circuit :D
  • #7 15344930
    niewolno2
    Level 40  
    opornik7 wrote:
    Are you sure you know what you are writing about?
    Your "switch" could only turn on the lighting and not cause a short circuit.

    If you have L and N power in the switch, the User could make a short circuit.
  • #8 15344936
    opornik7
    Electrician specialist
    wojciech80 wrote:
    If not that triggered the metering protection, then you must have made a large short circuit :D


    Stop writing fables and write how you can make a short circuit in the switch box.

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    niewolno2 wrote:
    If you have L and N power in the switch, the User could make a short circuit.

    Say you're kidding. Where from in the N junction box?
  • #9 15344947
    gossseba
    Level 8  
    1-phase installation. I have no tension anywhere in my apartment
  • #10 15344953
    niewolno2
    Level 40  
    And why is N not present in junction boxes?
    The fact that it is not attached to the accessories does not mean that it is not in the junction box.
    I ignore the system of intermediate / junction boxes which were a bane.
  • #11 15344992
    gossseba
    Level 8  
    Okay, again from the beginning, slowly ... When installing the light switch, I didn't turn off the fuses. There was a tiny spark and it suddenly went dark. After switching on the fuses again, it is still dark and there is no power in the sockets. In the box on the cage, I have only one ceramic fuse that looks undamaged. What more can I do, check without knowing it
  • #12 15345004
    opornik7
    Electrician specialist
    Can you zapodać a photo of this can or rather its contents?
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  • #13 15345007
    slawekx
    Level 29  
    gossseba wrote:
    . What more can I do, check without knowing it

    Call a repairman.
  • #14 15345032
    gossseba
    Level 8  
    At the moment, no, I returned to my apartment (the one is under renovation). Describe roughly .. 3 apartments on the floor. One current meter for each. There are three ceremonial fuses at the top. One per apartment, cables go from each meter to a plastic pipe, the pipe goes into the wall and nothing else is there. No connectors, switches, nothing. There are also no fuses in the basement.
  • #15 15345041
    zbich70
    Level 43  
    gossseba wrote:
    In the box on the cage, I have only one ceramic fuse that looks undamaged.

    From what do you conclude that it is undamaged?
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    #16 15345045
    prezes_ber
    Level 11  
    gossseba wrote:
    Hello. My problem is that I made a short circuit by connecting the light switch (I did not turn off the plugs). I have a new installation in my apartment, automatic plugs. After connecting the above-mentioned switch, I went to the switchboard to turn on the plugs that popped out during a short circuit. Unfortunately, there was no reaction. There is no electricity in the contacts and there is no light. I looked at the cage and all the plugs are on. "Eska" is only on the ground floor, our first floor has old ceramic (white) plugs. They are also intact. Is there any way to check for yourself why there is no electricity, or is it better to call an electrician?


    My suggestion is that:
    1. Check the circuit breaker if the lever is turned on, there is voltage at the output terminal. It often happens that low-quality "eS" are damaged in the event of short-circuits. I have had this case several times before. It helped then after switching on the lever back literally by 1mm. Of course "S" to be replaced.
    2. These old ceramic "plugs" can wear out so much that the indicator (such a colored circle) does not fall out because the burnt sand sticks to the wire and the spring cannot push it away. In addition, old plugs are best checked with a lamp in the form of a bulb holder, because when checking with a neon indicator, it often happens that the indicator lights up even though the fuse is blown.
    3. If the fuses turn out to be in order, there is probably no continuity in the circuit. I suggest then to have the repair performed by a qualified person.
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    #17 15345057
    niewolno2
    Level 40  
    If the fuse on the WLZ was damaged (read: riser), the other tenants would immediately smoke that there was no electricity, so you should check the "Bi" porcelain fuses to see if they are in good working order.
  • #18 15345059
    gossseba
    Level 8  
    zbich70 wrote:
    gossseba wrote:
    In the box on the cage, I have only one ceramic fuse that looks undamaged.

    From what do you conclude that it is undamaged?


    I tried it with a neighbor and he has electricity on both fuses

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    niewolno2 wrote:
    If the fuse on the WLZ was damaged (read: riser), the other tenants would immediately smoke that there was no electricity, so you should check the "Bi" porcelain fuses to see if they are in good working order.


    I'll check again tomorrow. I have some "old" type fuses at home. List all three to be sure. If that doesn't help, I'll just call an electrician. I wanted to avoid extra costs, but you have to pay for the stupidity :(
  • #19 15345073
    kozi966
    Moderator of Electricians group
    gossseba wrote:
    What more can I do, check without knowing it

    Call an electrician, nothing else.
  • #20 15345379
    wojciech80
    Level 19  
    opornik7 wrote:
    wojciech80 wrote:
    If not that triggered the metering protection, then you must have made a large short circuit :D


    Stop writing fables and write how you can make a short circuit in the switch box.

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    niewolno2 wrote:
    If you have L and N power in the switch, the User could make a short circuit.

    Say you're kidding. Where from in the N junction box?


    Buddy, and who is writing, because I am definitely NOT that the short circuit was caused by wrong connection in the cans. As I would write, it is definitely not fairy tales :D , I prefer other reading :D .
  • #21 15345506
    masonry
    Level 30  
    opornik7 wrote:
    Stop writing fables and write how you can make a short circuit in the switch box.

    opornik7 wrote:
    Say you're kidding. Where from in the N junction box?

    Probably a fellow fairy-tale writers, or he hasn't seen much yet.
    Unfortunately, the author of the topic has too little knowledge to find the damage, so the only thing left to do is call an electrician.
  • #22 15346830
    Akrzy74
    Rest in Peace
    masonry wrote:
    Unfortunately, the author of the topic has too little knowledge to find the damage, so the only thing left to do is call an electrician.

    Exactly. To use the forum's help, you must have a minimum knowledge of a given topic. Since the author of the topic does not have this minimum knowledge, he does not meet the requirements, and therefore the topic is closed.

    I remind you!
    There is no endorsement of feral Polish on this forum! It is forbidden to publish entries that violate the spelling rules of the Polish language, careless and incomprehensible.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a user experiencing a loss of electricity in their apartment following a short circuit caused by connecting a light switch without turning off the plugs. The user has automatic plugs and old ceramic fuses, but after the incident, there is no power in the sockets or lighting. Responses suggest checking the circuit breaker and fuses, as well as the possibility of damaged components due to the short circuit. Many participants recommend calling an electrician due to the user's limited knowledge of electrical systems and troubleshooting methods. The user plans to check the fuses again and may seek professional help if the issue persists.
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