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AMICA kettle caused short circuit, main switch on but no power in apartment—what now?

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  • #1 11384963
    olimpiados
    Level 2  
    Today I bought a beautiful new AMICA kettle and when the water boiled and the switches went up, there was a short circuit and there was no electricity in the entire cage. In my case, the main switch and one of the overcurrent switches have turned off. After they are turned on, the power is still missing. It turned out that the fuses had to be turned on outside the cage in such a large box. I have all the electricity back, NO!
    What could be the reason why the current is not flowing when the main switch is turned on? I even turned off this circuit breaker and still NOTHING. It is not only in the sockets but basically nowhere. If I replace this circuit breaker, will everything return to normal? Or is the problem bigger?
    I am asking for an answer because tomorrow is Sunday, and my daughter has a name-day, there are to be guests, etc., and the community electrician said that he would be on Monday.
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  • #2 11384965
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Then look for another. That's all there is to know.
    And in the near future, repair the electrical system.
  • #3 11385146
    olimpiados
    Level 2  
    You helped anyway, I just want to know what could have happened. Is the main switch blown or the overcurrent one? As for the renovation, I only rent the apartment and I have no intention of renovating the apartment to the owner. I just wanted to know if I can replace something (there used to be fuses and there was no problem) Just say if it has anything to do with the fuses or something went wrong in the cables.
  • #4 11385164
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
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  • #5 11385167
    yang32
    Level 36  
    The "S" or the differential could be damaged and it does not pass the current.
    If the block belongs to a housing cooperative or housing association, report the matter to them and let them fix it for you, because they are obliged to do so.
  • #6 11385302
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    yang32 wrote:
    The "S" or the differential could be damaged and it does not pass the current.

    It burned the wires at any point as well. Don't read the coffee grounds. And I wonder where you got the differential there.
  • #7 11385331
    yang32
    Level 36  
    Well, it could be mounted.
    As for reading tea leaves - "S" ki are so cheesy and at the lowest cost that without reading tea leaves you can put "S" kę on "S" kę with 90% certainty.
  • #8 11385359
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    yang32 wrote:
    Well, it could be mounted.
    As for reading tea leaves - "S" ki are so cheesy and at the lowest cost that without reading tea leaves you can put "S" kę on "S" kę with 90% certainty.


    Not true. Independent studies do not confirm this.
  • #9 11385376
    yang32
    Level 36  
    I have a research pie in d ... When we write like this, I stop writing on topics below 15KV, because I don't intend to argue.
    Every month, we have several reports of power outages at a customer with such a problem. When I tell him that it can be "S" ka, he reacts like you, because he has a few months and a new installation. Well, he calls in an hour and apologizes for actually moving her and she caught it, or not, but it turned out that "S" was.
    And these are reliable studies for me, because they come from practice.
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  • #10 11385382
    Łukasz-O
    Admin of electroenergetics
    Oh, there are several companies that produce disposable eses. I will not list the names.
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  • #11 11385389
    stacho60
    Level 15  
    He can start from the beginning, i.e. check whether the voltage is reaching the switchgear in the apartment.
  • #12 11385408
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    yang32 wrote:
    I have a research pie in d ... When we write like this, I stop writing on topics below 15KV, because I don't intend to argue.
    Every month, we have several reports of power outages at a customer with such a problem. When I tell him that it can be "S" ka, he reacts like you, because he has a few months and a new installation. Well, he calls in an hour and apologizes for actually moving her and she caught it, or not, but it turned out that "S" was.
    And these are reliable studies for me, because they come from practice.


    I have no less practice than you, or much more. And I find that cans and burned-out connections are much more often the reason for the lack of voltage. So I would suggest that you give up the one sage and all-knowing attitude. Because if you deal with networks, you wouldn't be the best in installations.
  • #13 11385504
    azyl85
    Level 13  
    And what kind of main protection do you have? Sometimes no differential? Where is the meter? I advise you to check with a test tube and then a lamp holder and a light bulb. Which wires are there Al or Cu. Maybe they got burned because they were not tightened but the new kettle caused a short circuit? It is not such a heavy load. As for selectivity, ... to really maintain selectivity, you would have to invest a bit ... In EVs, they usually give S type C in terms of conditions and how to maintain selectivity?
  • #14 11385636
    zbich70
    Level 43  
    retrofood wrote:
    So I would suggest that you give up the one sage and all-knowing attitude. Because if you deal with networks, you wouldn't be the best in installations.

    Buddy Staszek, let's not point out how many people have experience and in what field. It is true that "networkers" tend to be weaker in installations, and so are "installers" in networks. ;)
    Nevertheless, these two "areas" have something in common. My colleague Adam (yang32) is right - among the interventions of the Energy Emergency Service there are really many cases involving switching off and on again the "eska". He goes to burnt PE cans and sockets less often, because it can usually be pre-determined in a conversation with the customer during the notification.
    yang32 wrote:
    Well, he calls in an hour and apologizes for actually moving her and she caught it, or not, but it turned out that "S" was.

    Or he won't call and the ambulance goes. :evil:
  • #15 11385738
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    zbich70 wrote:
    retrofood wrote:
    So I would suggest that you give up the one sage and all-knowing attitude. Because if you deal with networks, you wouldn't be the best in installations.

    Buddy Staszek, let's not point out how many people have experience and in what field. It is true that "networkers" tend to be weaker in installations, and so are "installers" in networks. ;)
    Nevertheless, these two "areas" have something in common. My colleague Adam (yang32) is right - among the interventions of the Energy Emergency Service there are really many cases involving switching off and on again the "eska". He goes to burnt PE cans and sockets less often, because it can usually be pre-determined in a conversation with the customer during the notification.


    I understand it, you write "reattach". Agreement.
    However, it cannot be said that eSka and its damage are the main cause of power problems, or rather the lack of voltage in the premises.
  • #16 11385792
    zbich70
    Level 43  
    retrofood wrote:
    However, it cannot be said that eSka and its damage are the main cause of power problems, or rather the lack of voltage in the premises.

    But no one says it categorically! Colleague Adam wrote in post # 5:
    yang32 wrote:
    He could get damaged "S"

    I note the word "could" - the conditional mood. ;)
  • #17 11385901
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    zbich70 wrote:
    retrofood wrote:
    However, it cannot be said that eSka and its damage are the main cause of power problems, or rather the lack of voltage in the premises.

    But no one says it categorically! Colleague Adam wrote in post # 5:
    yang32 wrote:
    He could get damaged "S"

    I pay attention to the word "could" - the conditional mood. ;)


    But he also wrote:
    yang32 wrote:

    As for reading tea leaves - "S" ki are so cheesy and at the lowest cost that without reading tea leaves you can put "S" kę on "S" kę with 90% certainty.


    Truth? That was my objection to that.
  • #18 11385989
    zbich70
    Level 43  
    retrofood wrote:
    But he also wrote:
    yang32 wrote:
    As for reading tea leaves - "S" ki are so cheesy and at the lowest cost that without reading tea leaves you can put "S" kę on "S" kę with 90% certainty.

    Truth? And that was my objection.

    I think this sentence can be interpreted like this:
    "You do not have electricity in your home / premises - start with the words".
  • #19 11386001
    Akrzy74
    Rest in Peace
    olimpiados wrote:
    If I replace this circuit breaker, will everything return to normal? Or is the problem bigger?

    Nobody will give you a precise answer, because the basis is to measure the voltage on the switchgear supply (including visual inspection) and on individual devices / circuits. I do not even mention other measurements, because this is the "Beginner" section, but nevertheless, the basics apply - so that my colleague and others would not hurt himself.
    It's hard to move your head or hand, it's better to ask, you don't have to move in front of the computer! In this section, you should provide the results of the actions taken to diagnose the fault / damage. As it is not visible, let me close the topic.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a user experiencing a power outage in their apartment after using a new AMICA kettle, which caused a short circuit. The main switch and an overcurrent switch were tripped, and despite resetting them, electricity remained absent. Participants suggest various potential causes, including a damaged main switch or overcurrent protection device, issues with wiring, or the need for a differential switch. They recommend checking the voltage at the switchgear and inspecting the wiring for damage. The user expresses urgency due to an upcoming event, highlighting the need for a quick resolution.
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