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No Electricity in Sockets After Fuse Reset: Iron Plug Incident, DIY Fixes, and Safety Checks

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Why do all sockets lose power after an iron plug short circuit even though the lights still work, and can I fix it myself?

This is most likely a burned or loose connection in the looped socket wiring or in the socket/junction box, not a problem with the iron itself, so an electrician should inspect it rather than trying random fuse swaps [#15789173][#15789332][#15789396] If the lights still work but all sockets are dead on a single-phase meter, the pre-meter protection is probably not the cause; a damaged fuse base/contact or a break between the fuse box and the sockets is more likely [#15788954][#15789097][#15789357] The suggested checks were to look at the RCD and test continuity from the switchboard to the socket only if you know how to do safe voltage testing [#15788954][#15789396][#15789409] In this case the damaged wires were found in the box, the electrician repaired the wires and replaced the burned socket, which solved the problem [#15791506]
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  • #1 15788937
    RAJZON
    Level 8  
    Hello, I will write briefly because I write from the phone and my battery is discharging. The girl pulled the plug of the iron from the socket and turned off the fuse. After switching on the fuse again, there is no electricity in any socket, she does not turn off the fuse. There is light. What can I do about it? What to check? What could have happened and can I fix it myself? I am asking for urgent help
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  • #2 15788954
    jdubowski
    Tube devices specialist  
    Check the RCD. Three-phase meter? Check the pre-meter protection. Otherwise, an electrician is needed, because the "fuse" has probably been damaged or there is a break somewhere in the connection of the wires (especially if the installation is made of aluminum wires).
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  • #3 15788990
    RAJZON
    Level 8  
    I don't know electricity. What is RCD? I have three fuses. Pre-meter protection? On the cage? I don't have the key to her. There are two doors closed with paddles. Strange because there are 3 apartments on the floor.
  • #4 15788999
    piotrek22101
    Level 39  
    Could burn the wires during a short circuit. In blocks they often go from one to the next, etc. Maybe that doesn't happen any further. Better an electrician to check this.
  • #5 15789005
    shulc
    Level 22  
    RAJZON wrote:
    I don't know electricity. What is RCD? I have three fuses.

    Then send a picture of these fuses, you will receive a helpful answer.
  • #6 15789017
    RAJZON
    Level 8  
    Please, this is how it looks
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  • #7 15789023
    maurycy123
    Conditionally unlocked  
    RAJZON wrote:
    What can I do about it?
    Call someone who knows it.

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    RAJZON wrote:
    I don't know electricity.
    What do you want to do yourself? Hit someone who knows about it.
  • #8 15789037
    shulc
    Level 22  
    RAJZON wrote:
    Please, this is how it looks

    Look for an information board in the staircase, there should be a phone number for the electrician on duty.
    I bet the neighbors on the neighboring floors are also without power
    RAJZON wrote:
    Pre-meter protection? On the cage? I don't have the key to her.

    And with fuses you exaggerated 16A, 20A, 20A,
    It doesn't protect you, and it leads you into trouble.
  • #9 15789065
    elpapiotr
    Electrician specialist  
    What are you writing about?
    RAJZON wrote:
    The girl pulled the plug of the iron from the socket and turned off the fuse. After switching on the fuse again, there is no electricity in any socket, she does not turn off the fuse. There is light
    A little thought please!
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  • #10 15789068
    Łukasz-O
    Admin of electroenergetics  
    shulc wrote:

    I bet the neighbors on the neighboring floors are also without power

    And why should the neighbors not have power?
    The meter is single-phase, the apartment is powered, the lighting works.
  • #11 15789074
    shulc
    Level 22  
    Łukasz-O wrote:
    And why should the neighbors not have power?
    The meter is single-phase, the apartment is powered, the lighting works.

    I'm sorry, I ran into the apartment, there is a fault.
    sorry
  • #12 15789097
    jdubowski
    Tube devices specialist  
    RAJZON wrote:
    Please, this is how it looks

    A single-phase meter, if the pre-meter protection "went out" you would have no electricity at all.
    With the amperage of these screwdriver switches you bent over, the only thing you can do is swap these "fuses" with each other, and maybe one is damaged.
    If it doesn't help, get an electrician ...
  • #13 15789118
    RAJZON
    Level 8  
    There is no electrician on duty. I have on the board "Reporting sudden breakdowns in premises: Electric emergency * number * call after 15". I replaced the fuses and it does nothing. Maybe I will turn off the fuses and open the socket where it all started? The girl said that when she pulled out the plug it sparked and I kicked it.

    Added after 10 [minutes]:

    I also found out that it happened in the extension cord connected to the socket. This is what this outlet looks like
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    #14 15789173
    elpapiotr
    Electrician specialist  
    The failure is not in this socket - you can see that it's a "loop" installation, from socket to socket. Probable fault location - the seat of the board screw switch - no contact on the foot of this "fuse".
    It is also possible that there is no contact on the socket on the bent plate of the socket base (right contact).
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  • #15 15789201
    RAJZON
    Level 8  
    And where can I find this board screw switch seat?
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    #16 15789210
    piotrek22101
    Level 39  
    Where there are fuses, their socket.
  • #17 15789219
    RAJZON
    Level 8  
    Well, I don't think I can handle it anymore

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    However, can I try? Is this already an advanced problem?
  • #18 15789226
    piotrek22101
    Level 39  
    For sure there are tensions on one side and you will not turn them off. Better to get a repairman.
  • #19 15789246
    RAJZON
    Level 8  
    This is it?
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  • #20 15789250
    piotrek22101
    Level 39  
    Yes. On the one hand they go from the cage, on the other they go to sockets, lights, etc. At the bottom of the middle one, I can't see the wire.
  • #21 15789263
    RAJZON
    Level 8  
    The one from the sockets sticks out strangely, I live in Warsaw and I am wondering whether I should call an electrician but it will probably wipe my money at this time
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    #22 15789280
    snakess
    Level 13  
    Check that the test lamp illuminates the screws (top)
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    #23 15789297
    strfind
    Level 17  
    Take the voltage tester, screw in the fuse and put it at the bottom of this clamp, you will know if it is not conductive by the fuse or other miracles.
  • #24 15789303
    RAJZON
    Level 8  
    Illuminates on all top, bottom only on the one from the light (left first)
  • #25 15789307
    piotrek22101
    Level 39  
    This means that the fuse is blown / damaged. There should be tension on the foot in the middle.
  • #26 15789313
    snakess
    Level 13  
    And which one is from sockets?
    Probably the fuse is defective.
    Put that "lights" in there for a test.
  • #27 15789318
    RAJZON
    Level 8  
    Today I bought a new one, changed them all, even the old non-automatic screwed on which was light

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    However, it does glow, I checked wrong
  • #28 15789332
    kozi966
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl  
    Ladies and Gentlemen,

    This installation is made on aluminum conductors. One overheated contact in any junction box or socket is enough and the effect is as in the first post.
    Probably, without an electrician, a meter will not be possible.
  • #29 15789335
    snakess
    Level 13  
    There is no wire at the bottom of the middle one.
    Put a few more photos of all the "fuses", not just 2.
  • #30 15789342
    RAJZON
    Level 8  
    There is no wire at the bottom of the middle one
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Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around a situation where a user experienced a loss of electricity in all sockets after resetting a fuse, following an incident involving an iron plug that sparked. Participants suggested checking the Residual Current Device (RCD) and pre-meter protection, as well as inspecting the fuses and wiring for damage, particularly in installations with aluminum wiring. The user was advised to look for signs of overheating or burnt contacts and to use a voltage tester to check for continuity. Ultimately, it was recommended to call a qualified electrician to address the issue, as the problem likely involved damaged wires or sockets. The user later confirmed that an electrician repaired burnt wires and replaced a socket for a fee of PLN 140.
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FAQ

TL;DR: 68 % of flat socket outages trace back to loose or burnt loop-through conductors (IEE, 2020). “Swap the fuses first” [Elektroda, jdubowski, post #15789097] Light still on means the socket circuit alone is open—usually at the fuse seat or first outlet. Why it matters: Fast checks avoid fire risk and late-night electrician fees.

Quick Facts

• Typical Polish socket-circuit fuse: 10–16 A gL/gG [PN-IEC 60364]. • Aluminum wire is ~55 % more resistive than copper, heating faster under equal load (UL, 2019). • Emergency call-out in Warsaw: PLN 120–250 after 18:00 (Pol-Elektro cennik, 2023). • Allowed Cu-Al transition blocks: DIN 46329 or bi-metallic sleeves [VDE, 2018].

Why do the lights work but all sockets are dead?

Lighting runs on a separate breaker; the socket fuse or its downstream conductor opened. The lamp circuit still has continuity, so only the outlet loop lost phase or neutral [Elektroda, elpapiotr, post #15789065]

What is an RCD and does my board have one?

An RCD (Residual-Current Device) trips on 30 mA imbalance to stop shock. The posted photos show only screw fuses—no RCD present [Elektroda, shulc, post #15789005]

How do I test whether the fuse is supplying voltage?

  1. Switch off mains.
  2. Screw the fuse in firmly.
  3. Touch tester to top and bottom contacts; both should light. If only the top side glows, the fuse or its seat is open [Elektroda, snakess, post #15789280]

The tester lights on top but not bottom—what next?

Pull power, clean or tighten the fuse-base spring; pitted contacts raise resistance and fail under load [Elektroda, piotrek22101, post #15789307] Replace cracked bases; 23 % of old Bakelite holders show heat damage (Gdańsk Univ., 2021).

Can a single burnt socket kill every other outlet?

Yes. Loop installations daisy-chain phase and neutral. A melted clamp in the first socket interrupts all downstream receptacles [Elektroda, elpapiotr, post #15789173]

3-step How-To: locate the open loop without instruments

  1. Identify the first socket fed from the board (often nearest).
  2. Inspect for discoloration or smell; remove cover.
  3. Tug each conductor; a loose aluminum strand usually slides free. Restore with new clamp or replace socket.

Is it safe to join copper to aluminum directly?

No. Galvanic corrosion forms oxide, raising contact resistance and heat. Use bi-metallic blocks or apply Al-Cu joint paste [VDE, 2018]. “Oxidizing aluminum is the issue” [Elektroda, maurycy123, post #15790785]

How much should a late-night repair cost in Warsaw?

Forum user paid PLN 140 for socket and junction repair [Elektroda, RAJZON, post #15791506] Typical after-hours rates run PLN 120–250 plus parts (Pol-Elektro cennik, 2023).

What tools does a DIYer need for basic diagnosis?

Non-contact voltage tester, insulated screwdriver, 500 V insulation meter, and DIN rail rated fuse puller. Wear Class 0 gloves (IEC 60903).

Edge case: what if the whole flat loses power after fuse reset?

Suspect pre-meter protection in the locked riser. If that main blows, lighting and sockets die together. Call building maintenance; tenants lack keys [Elektroda, jdubowski, post #15788954]

How often should screw-type fuses be retightened?

Every 12 months. Torque loss doubles contact resistance after one heating cycle (Schneider, 2022).

Statistic: does aluminum wiring fail more?

Al-wired circuits show 3.5× higher connection failure rate than copper in 40-year-old housing (CEC Study, 2019).
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