No Electricity After Glue Gun Incident: Fuses, Differential, Meter On, 25A Fuse Replaced

Hello

I plugged the glue gun into the socket, something shot and the lights went out in the whole apartment.

I have a flat in a block of flats, the installation looks as follows:
fuses in the apartment, I also have a differential, fuse in the staircase sealed, electricity meter and more ...

Fuses and differential in the apartment turned on, I replaced the fuse on the cage (the one sealed - for PGE telephone consent)
for the same 25A. And there is still no electricity.

On the meter, when you turn it on from the button, it works (after a moment it goes out), this fuse on the cage receives electricity with a sampler, while the differential in the house does not occur (I checked with a sampler)

Where can the reason be?
Please help

Is that in the cage? Did you mention it prophylactically? Usually, the whole riser goes, or so it is in my block and then to the main switchboard somewhere in the basement or as in my case in the middle cage in the block is the main switch.
Of course, you took the glue gun out of the socket, you probably have a short circuit on it.
Call PGE since they are to deal with your energy network for something unless you pay them.

gradek83 wrote:

Call PGE since they are to deal with your energy network for something unless you pay them.

Crap Sunday evening.

gradek83 wrote:

Of course, you took the glue gun out of the socket, you probably have a short circuit on it.

Or in the nest itself.

That's how it got out of the cage. It was sealed and with the phone permission of PGE, I removed the seal and replaced it with a new one.
PGE may come up but only tomorrow and such pleasure PLN 64.

I also suspect that another in the basement at the main counter could have popped out. I'm just curious that there is electricity in the one mentioned on the cage and the meter wonders. If you turn it on with the counters, it works for a while and then goes out.

Tenants who have meters in my box have electricity.

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Of course, I unplugged the gun

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An electrician from the cooperative is still bowing, but it is only tomorrow

mandarek wrote:

there is electricity on the one mentioned in the cage and the meter wonders. If you turn it on with the counters, it works for a while and then goes out.

So don't look for any security in the basement. Turn off all the fuses and the differential that you have in the apartment and "turn on" the meter - check if it works.
Take apart the socket to which the gun was connected and check whether there is a short circuit (molten insulation, etc.).

sosarek wrote:

mandarek wrote:

there is electricity on the one mentioned in the cage and the meter wonders. If you turn it on with the counters, it works for a while and then goes out.

So don't look for any security in the basement. Turn off all the fuses and the differential that you have in the apartment and "turn on" the meter - check if it works.
Take apart the socket to which the gun was connected and check whether there is a short circuit (molten insulation, etc.).

And so I did the counter "works" with the minute and itself after about a minute turned off.

This is not the socket because I first connected the gun through the extension cord and shot only one S, and then to another socket directly.

mandarek wrote:

o no socket is the reason because I first connected the gun through the extension cord and shot only one S, and then to another socket directly.

Didn't he give you food for the first time? Was it better to persist with a maniac to cause further damage?

if one circuit is a miniature circuit breaker but in my apartment ???

As I checked with a sampler at the ends of the wires that "enter" into the apartment and go to the differential, there is no voltage there

If this isolation switch is damaged, it is a task for those from the "cooperative" whether to call PGE

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sosarek wrote:

mandarek wrote:

o no socket is the reason because I first connected the gun through the extension cord and shot only one S, and then to another socket directly.

Didn't he give you food for the first time? Was it better to persist with a maniac to cause further damage?

If I did it personally, maybe I would stop and think for a moment.
But the 11-year-old wife and son are an explosive mixture.

Gentlemen, the installation is not a sandbox and playing with it may end up in a tragedy for a layman. The only advice is to wait for an electrician. The mandarek checked but he really has no idea what he was checking and I suspect that he was checking with a neon indicator which in the case of a layman leads to wrong conclusions.
Installation should only be done by a person with a valid qualification certificate who knows what to check and how.

That's right

I checked what I could without interfering with the installation itself (well, possibly replacing the fuse) and without danger to myself and others and what I had on hand.

It remains to wait for the electrician, but it is also absurd competence because the electrician from the cooperative says that he can do nothing because seals and only PGE.
PGE allows the seals to be removed by phone and allows the layman to replace the fuse.

And I would like to remind you that if the meter turns on and then turns off then there is probably no power supply, it works on an internal backup battery.

So, most likely, this pre-meter security is a problem.

opornik7 wrote:

Crap Sunday evening.

I'm sorry to add to the Counter. Behind the counter, however, it must be a fact for an electrician to call ... or to search for himself, which I would advise against ...

mandarek wrote:

and such pleasure 64 PLN.

And not too expensive, not counting that if something went in the wall then the costs may be higher.

mandarek wrote:

An electrician from the cooperative is still bowing, but it is only tomorrow

Well, a professional will overcome the situation and say what and how.

Topolski Mirosław wrote:

The only advice is to wait for an electrician.

We will wait carefully and certainly a friend will tell us where the dog was buried.

Volt wrote:

works on the internal backup battery.

Do all the meters have newer ones?

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mandarek wrote:

This is not the socket because I first connected the gun through the extension cord and shot only one S, and then to another socket directly.

How many amps do you have a fuse for?
At frame 25A and at home?

gradek83 wrote:

How many amps do you have a fuse for?
At frame 25A and at home?

It doesn't matter in the event of a short circuit.

Volt wrote:

And I would like to remind you that if the meter turns on and then turns off then there is probably no power supply, it works on an internal backup battery.

No, it is not powered by a backup battery. It is used to maintain the meter settings, the power supply is carried out directly from the network.

The above behavior indicates that the meter is powering up, but that there is no power consumption (so the meter turns off after a minute due to lack of energy).

Take photos of the electrical switchboard (best if you have the option, without the cover).

Topolski Mirosław wrote:

It doesn't matter in the event of a short circuit.

So you say that if I have three 2A 16A and 25A fuses on the power line, all of them will work at once? Alternatively, explain how you see it.

gradek83 wrote:

Topolski Mirosław wrote:

It doesn't matter in the event of a short circuit.

So you say that if I have three 2A 16A and 25A fuses on the power line, all of them will work at once? Alternatively, explain how you see it.

Pay attention to the characteristics of the miniature circuit breakers and consider that this is a short circuit and not an overload.

kSmuk wrote:

No, it is not powered by a backup battery. It is used to maintain the meter settings, the power supply is carried out directly from the network.

The above behavior indicates that the meter is powering up, but that there is no power consumption (so the meter turns off after a minute due to lack of energy).

Strange, because I could disassemble the counters with only his hand in "turn it on" and read the parameters that he had stored in himself.

As if you added photos and showed what, where and how you check, maybe you could conjure something ..