Seeking Durable Drill Recommendations for Reinforced Concrete: Budget, Brands, and More

Dear gentlemen, I am looking for equipment for drilling in reinforced concrete (for home use). For now, we have a drill from the market and the hell is going to get it. I want to buy something better, not to drill one hole for an hour and not to use 2-3 drills for it (often after one hole is blunt or the tip turns into a ball) This is to be a gift for my husband. Let's start with the general stuff
1) Choose a drill or hammer drill
2) What to pay attention to?
3) Is it possible to choose something that comes for more than 2 years at a price of up to PLN 1000 (we use intensively 1-2 times a year, and the rest of the time it lies)
4) It's nice if the equipment was from a well-known company that it was available in EU countries and that you could easily buy drills for it
Contrary to appearances, we drill some of these holes, because we move often (cabinets, curtain rods, lamps, mirrors, etc.). If you can recommend the blonde some specific proven models, I will be very grateful (and good companies that produce drills)

From my experience for home, I recommend cheap SDS + rotary hammers. You'll also get drills there. And pay attention to the speed control in the switch - it should be. For me, it is the fourth year of a drill for PLN 160.

Only SDS plus. If you buy a Makita or Metabo for use twice a year, what will the cost of one use be? Well, but you pay. But how is it supposed to be branded, of course, Makita 2470 and newer. It is very light and it is almost a cult piece of equipment in this range.
For a relatively versatile use, the hammer drill should have 800-900 watts and the stroke of let's say 2.5-3 Joules are measured in various ways, but if it has these watts, then joules will be enough. Go ahead and for amateur use, you can buy a DIY store brand (Dexter, Meec, Macallister). You will also have a 2-year quiet warranty.
Just not to buy crap with allegro with cosmic Chinese powers.
Every SDS plus rotary hammer will fit any SDS plus drill bits

Thanks, today I will have more time to check what is available here (yesterday I saw a makita, blue bosch, da welt (or something like that). quite a lot of the year, at least PLN 500 (the cost of hanging 8 wall lamps), and now I want to hang curtain rods (my husband gets sick at the mere mention of changing the arrangement Well, it seems to me that this apparent saving on the drill comes out just sideways ... For one drill (which I can drill something with our drill in these armored walls, I pay 8-10 EUR, Sister has Hilti (drilling is a completely different story, but she lives too far to borrow from her, especially since we've been seeing each other once or twice a year.) That's why I came up with the idea of buying something better

Ps Is 50 EUR for 5 hilti drills (set) good (normal price) or rather fakes? What are your opinions about makita drills (I saw a set for EUR 30 ;)

And are the sds + drill bits long and short or only long? If there are both types, how are they different? If you find a rod in the construction, is the drill also immediately replaceable or can you drill with it for a while?

SDS plus drill bits are available in all sizes and if you want to drill through the Earth, you buy long ones . You can, of course, buy some Hilti kits for professional work, but you'll pay for what you never use. Makita's basic drill bits for a few zlotys will cover 100% of the amateur's needs.
As for the wires in reinforced concrete, puncture them (drill another hole centimeter further). These wires are good for something . The drill bit may become dull over time when it comes into contact with the wire, but it doesn't happen right away ... unless it's some very Chinese plasticine.
And remember that the operator drills, not just the drill

Oh, I don't know what's going on, but there is almost a bar on the rod (I have to drill some holes at short distances, because the pendant requires it and if we don't drill, at least one hole always falls in the reinforcement. For example, the hook on a curtain rod is a circle with a diameter about 3 cm, the places for the holes are arranged in a triangle and sometimes all 3 fell out on the rod.

Ps are there any devices to detect these rods? What if the wall does not make cheese?

The reinforcement is sometimes dense (pillars, load-bearing beams, etc.), but without exaggeration Maybe it's not wires, but pebbles in concrete? A normal drill won't swallow it.
The wires are generally not an insurmountable obstacle. If the drill is not doing well, it slopes a bit and it always comes out somehow. Reinforcement and live metal detectors are available.
When drilling, I never thought about the wires ... it always worked

It was rather some kind of metal, because when I kept the dustpan under the hole, first the hole stopped getting deeper, and then metal filings appeared in the "garbage". The fact is that we usually drill with two types of drill bits (the cheaper ones for concrete and the universal ones for everything, but their tip can also melt into a ball (because the latter heat up very quickly), and everything goes on and on ...

Now we have something called worx wx312 (hammer drill), 810W. And so it works on average for me. He will drill a hole, but it takes a very long time (in this apartment we drill one hole for about 30-40 minutes), it stands in the wall every now and then (even if you do not press it strongly), and if you find a more difficult substrate, this fixing plastic the drill unscrews and the drill stays in the wall ...

Summarizing, for example, this Makita sds + will be better than our current drill? Regarding the pneumatic ones, I will ask for a good example model, because it will be the easiest way for me to translate and look for this miracle here

This Worx is not intended for such work. If the drill bit is slipping a lot, the head may be worn out.
Each brand of SDS plus hammer drill with the REAL parameters given above will meet your expectations.
DeWalt D25123K, Makita 2470 are 2kg class devices and they will be sufficient and reliable at the same time.
Rather, do not buy large and very strong equipment, because drilling in the ceiling with a five-kilo drill is not easy.
And vertical hammer drills, apart from the fact that they are usually heavy, also require maintenance (dosing of gear lubricant).

Borutka wrote:

This Worx is not intended for such work. If the drill bit is slipping a lot, the head may be worn out.
Each brand of SDS plus hammer drill with the REAL parameters given above will meet your expectations.
DeWalt D25123K, Makita 2470 are 2kg class devices and they will be sufficient and reliable at the same time.
Rather, do not buy large and very strong equipment, because drilling in the ceiling with a five-kilo drill is not easy.
And vertical hammer drills, apart from the fact that they are usually heavy, also require maintenance (dosing of gear lubricant).

This is a very valuable remark .... As for the purchase, such a miracle was recommended to us by a guy in the supermarket. And since my husband stopped on drills from the 1980s, which his parents used, he bought it
Great thank you very much. I'll buy it after payment, instead of more drill bits for this worx. I hope it will be cheaper

Jarzabek666 wrote:

Borutka wrote:

DeWalt D25123K, Makita 2470

Ordinary Chinese beats them faster

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As a CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, do you have such extensive experience with Chinese? Oh not nice
Do you suggest a 5 kg and 5 joule log to drill a hole for a wall lamp?
What will happen if you drill for 20 seconds instead of 10 seconds?
What will the fi 6 hole look like with a stroke of 5 joules, especially when you are unfamiliar with the equipment?
Everyone can, of course, have their own views on this

I have a feeling you haven't read this conversation.
I can only complete the statement that in case of a problem, let my friend buy some more
four-blade drills. I can also add that with the cheapest green Bosch PBH2100 (1.8 joules, 550 watts) you can easily make small holes for pegs.
By the way, buddy, find out what Poles made holes in reinforced concrete 40 years ago.
You don't need Chinese for that, as is written on the housing by the million watt. Some people didn't even have electricity for that.
greetings

Thank you gentlemen. In the end, we bought this Makita (the most ordinary model without the light and this overlay for ordinary drill bits). The husband is very pleased because all the holes are made on one drill and there is no sign of wear. It took a while, but it was the attendant's fault, because he took breaks every now and then, because his hands hurt , and he did not drill at the highest speed, because he did not feel it well yet, and he probably held it a little too weakly, because at higher speeds "the hole broke more" . If we have more time and I buy the missing cable adapters, we will take care of the remaining rooms. The most important thing is that I can finally start to embrace the child's room.