Best Oxygen Concentrator Options: Comparing Features, Price & Maintenance (Allegro PLN 500-1000)

There is a mass of this on the Allegro, from PLN 500 to several thousand.
http://allegro.pl/listing/listing.php?string=tlen%20koncentrator



I want to buy my father a device that will work for several years. To have access to the parts required for its work, as far as I know, the filter is replaced there and I don't know what else.

There are no "eternal" concentrators, apart from replacing the air filters, you need to replace the nitrogen absorbing cartridges. Therefore, it is important that the service is available for a given concentrator. Compressor failures can also occur from time to time. See e.g. rehafund.pl

The concentrator wears out - the molecular sieves filled with zeolite are consumed, so you can not count on the fact that when used for several years, it will work - yes, it will pump, but with a lower and lower oxygen concentration. You can "dim" a few zlotys and buy a used one - with lottery luck - either it will be in good condition and will work, or it will quickly cease to fulfill its task, or it will even break down. I cannot say anything more at the moment, but I propose to investigate the possibility of obtaining a refund for new equipment - some are refunded by OPS, some by PFRON - then it will be certain that it will "fly". I do not advise you to use the offers of "regenerators" - most of them only replace filters worth a few zlotys, because the repair of the bed is usually too expensive in relation to the value of the device. If the father requires constant access to oxygen, I suggest that you have an emergency supply of a small oxygen cylinder with a reducer - for the purposes of transport or power outages. This is what I am writing from the autopsy.

I just asked AeroMedik about this zeolite and they say that when it ends it is sent to them and they complete it.

He does not need a permanent one, but the doctor took him once for such oxygenation
I asked and he said that in his condition it would be worth buying something like that.
78 years old, 1/3 of lungs removed, heart weak

michalmwl wrote:

There are no "eternal" concentrators, apart from replacing the air filters, you need to replace the nitrogen absorbing cartridges. Therefore, it is important that the service is available for a given concentrator. Compressor failures can also occur from time to time. See e.g. rehafund.pl

How often are filters replaced?
Because he is also planning purchases

How often it depends on many factors. Remember that molecular filters take down moisture very quickly!

Rodzice wrote:

How often are filters replaced?
Because he is also planning purchases

It depends on several factors - first of all, how it was specified by the manufacturer in the instruction manual. I do not want to be stupid now, but the device I dealt with was about every 1000 hours of work. In practice, it will depend on the load on the machine - the intensity of use and the cleanliness of the air in which it works.

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daro31ie wrote:

Remember that molecular filters take down moisture very quickly!

Therefore, the instructions for each device state that the capacity control valve should be closed when not in use.

He has been dealing with this type of equipment for 10 years. And that's how I read here !! Literally magic.
And so when it comes to filters every 1000h, it is some stupidity or a Chinese camera. Some may have written in their own manuals anyway. But let's count:
A patient with COPD uses an average of 17 hours / day, which means 510 hours, so we replace the filters every 2 months !!!! It would be expensive.
Depending on the device, filters are changed from 3000h to 5000h. In some there are so-called LONG LIFE is then 5000h.
The new camera does not mean good, because many older models are better than the new ones.
Zeolite what you can buy is called. of the first generation, you won't read about it anywhere, it is also for older cameras.
When it comes to cylinders, it is an average idea, but it is also a solution. Now there are portable battery concentrators, although the price is PLN 10,000 and up. And I warn against cheapness, which gives 28% oxygen, not 90%. There is something here when it comes to the information of elektrotechmed.com
And the last thing is moisture, it is not about turning off the oxygen tap, but not using it in the bathroom because some people make it loud. Moisture will not get through the outlet cock, only the workplace.
If anyone has any questions, please.

I still haven't bought my father was supposed to have a test, but he didn't have the strength in his lungs to undergo a spirometric test, so he didn't get an NFZ concentrator.

So my question is still relevant what to buy on the Allegro:
- durable
- long efficient
- cheap and easily accessible replaceable elements / filters
- affordable for a pensioner, I saw on Allegro for PLN 500 from arsmedik
- preferably with easy replacement of all filters (air, nitrogen, etc.)

If everything cannot be fulfilled, then some compromise must be found between the price and the cost of keeping it in working order.
In this arsmedic, I do not like that they have to be sent, unless it is impossible to do otherwise ...

It's with aero .... it's no comment.
There is no perfect solution because the issue is such that it all depends on what the camera has gone through.

Hmm, I don't know if I would decide to buy something used, because as someone mentioned above, the history of such equipment is not known. Or maybe consider renting such equipment? Look for the Patronus rental network - I know that they have a lot of such equipment. And generally google these types of places. Take a look, compare the offers and see if that's a better option.

I recommend INVACARE 5. It is easy to check it yourself. First, no more than several thousand hours on the meter, secondly, run it with a flow of approx. 2 l / min. wait until the green indicator light comes on. Then unscrew for 5 l / min, work for at least 30 minutes. the yellow light should not come on. If, on top of that, during a cold start, a whistling noise cannot be heard from the compressor, take it without thinking. It's better than all the new ones (I now have over a year of Perfecto2 in the workshop, something over 9,000 hours, a scrap compressor, molecular sieves also on the finish, repair completely unprofitable if I buy new parts). INVACARE 5, when properly used, can work over 5,000. hours (the only drawback is quite expensive original filters).
A friend recently bought such a model with a mileage of 3100 hours. from 2006 (after the serial number, the first two digits before the letter) for about PLN 1,400.)

Buddy, everything would be correct, but I certainly will not believe that Perfecto2 had a broken compressor and sieves. Because it was Perfecto V and that is a significant difference. Also, if we check something by ear, it's nice. Someone could check the Polonaise combo to listen to me ..
In fact, Invacare 5 is the most powerful equipment on the market, and we have PLN 800 for us in Warsaw.

master9 wrote:

Buddy, everything would be correct, but I certainly will not believe that Perfecto2 had a broken compressor and sieves. Because it was Perfecto V and that is a significant difference. Also, if we check something by ear, it's nice. Someone could check the Polonaise combo to listen to me ..
In fact, Invacare 5 is the most powerful equipment on the market, and we have PLN 800 for us in Warsaw.

If I am to be precise PERFECTO 2V from 04-2016, approx. 9490 hours. Those with a THOMAS compressor and large screens are not produced for a long time, unfortunately. Cracked sieve bottoms after a few thousand. work hours. As for the rest, well, that doesn't surprise me, as a provincial resident, I'm used to it. Greetings.

And here is another correction when it comes to Perfecto 2, they are finishing production now, but the equipment is still on sale at the distributors. In fact, it's also fun, a bit of these Perfecto V will be done. Greetings

Maybe after a while, but I have a question. Is this capacity of the concentrator suitable for supplying the propane-oxygen burner?
I got into my hands of such equipment, with a raid of 3012 mth. Suitable?

arturavs wrote:

Maybe after a while, but I have a question. Is this capacity of the concentrator suitable for supplying the propane-oxygen burner?
I got into my hands such equipment, with a raid of 3012 mth. Suitable?

Somewhere there, I once read someone boasting about such an application - it seems to me, however, that the efficiency of a normal burner will be too low, at most for a jeweler. You would have to take a deal - the more so because the compressor in this device creates a small pressure.

Thanks for the answer. It remains to try.

998 wrote:

I recommend INVACARE 5. It is easy to check it yourself. First, no more than a dozen or so thousand hours for PLN 1,400.)

Hi, I wanted to send you a message on priv, but probably because of the "strange" nickname, an error can not pop up.
I want to ask for an air concentrator, can you speak to priv?