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Who should fix? One phase is missing

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  • #1 15994189
    Gardimax
    Level 8  
    Hello
    Firstly, I apologize if I posted the question in the wrong forum


    I have a private apartment in a 24 family block. We have established a housing association and signed a contract with a property manager who conducts all kinds of inspections, maintenance, administration, breakdowns, defects, etc. for which he charges an appropriate fee depending on the usable area of the apartment.
    For a few days now, one of the three electrical phases has disappeared in my house. I privately called an electrician who reviewed the installations in the house and the main one in the corridor and came to the conclusion that the current on one of the phases no longer reaches the pre-meter fuses and unfortunately I am forced to report the problem to the building administration because he himself can no longer help and to do.
    So I reported the matter to the administration, which automatically sent me to the power company. They, however, immediately informed me that such faults are not their responsibility, and the only thing they can do is to come and put seals on the devices that were possibly broken during the repair, and that's it.
    My question is who in this case can or should take care of this problem.
    Another electrician, perhaps the first one did not want to interfere with other rail protections, etc.?
    The administration responsible for the care of the building and the common areas of the tenants?
    Maybe an energy company?
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  • #2 15994271
    jarcecz
    Level 17  
    what does pre-meter fuses mean? in front of your meter? (then the building administrator calls an electrician with whom he has a contract) or in front of the WLZ meter - then the energy company - the community may demand compensation for failure to maintain network parameters.
  • #3 15994281
    Gardimax
    Level 8  
    Yes, I have three fuses in front of my meter and one of them no longer has power. And at this stage the private electrician said thank you, it's a matter for the building administration and the administration redirected to ZE, who also ignored me.
    However, what you write confirms my belief that the administration should take over the matter here and possibly inform me what it does next and how.
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  • #4 15994338
    jarcecz
    Level 17  
    Exactly. The probable cause is the activation of the 1-phase protection at the building connection.


    Call the administration and don't be fooled :)
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  • #5 15994345
    Gardimax
    Level 8  
    So I will...
    as for breaking this protection, it's a strange thing because the current can appear for 2 minutes and disappear.
  • #6 15994777
    zbich70
    Level 43  
    Gardimax wrote:
    as for breaking this protection, it's a strange thing because the current can appear for 2 minutes and disappear.

    You can "break" a window or teeth.

    If the power comes on and off, it indicates a fault in one of the connections, not a tripped protection.

    The fault may occur both in the ZE network and in a shared installation managed by the administrator of the facility.
    You have checked your part of the installation.
    Now it's the manager's turn, who will do the same in his part and diagnose whether the disruption is on his side or in the provider's network.
  • #7 15994805
    CYRUS2
    Level 43  
    Gardimax wrote:
    as for breaking this protection, it's a strange thing because the current can appear for 2 minutes and disappear.
    This is some contact loosening in the distribution system of the building itself.
    The case of the building's electrician-conservator.
  • #8 15995068
    kozi966
    Moderator of Electricians group
    Up to the exploitation limit - this is the scope of the power company. Where is the border? The manager probably knows that.
    From the border to the premises - it's a community thing.
    In the premises - yours.
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  • #9 15995132
    zbich70
    Level 43  
    kozi966 wrote:
    Up to the exploitation limit - this is the scope of the power company. Where is the border? The manager probably knows that.

    The tenant or landlord also knows/should know.
    It is written in the contract with the DSO. The contract is between the tenant and the supplier.
  • #10 15995208
    CYRUS2
    Level 43  
    Gardimax wrote:
    So I reported the matter to the administration, which automatically sent me to the power company.

    Call an electrician from the bulletin board in the staircase.
    I'm sure there's an electrician there.
    He's an electrician who rummages in the building's main switchgear.
  • #11 15995293
    kozi966
    Moderator of Electricians group
    zbich70 wrote:
    It is written in the contract with the DSO. The contract is between the tenant and the supplier.

    But he doesn't need to know where the boundary is in the object ;)
  • #12 15997321
    stomat
    Level 38  
    If it is a 24-family block, it is unlikely that only one tenant will use this one phase. If no one else reports the problem, the fault should be fixed by the property manager. The electricity supplier has nothing to do here.
  • #13 15997599
    pol102
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    I would strongly bet on the problem between the rail bridge (vide distribution block) -> pre-meter protection or the state of the pre-meter protection was wrongly diagnosed. If the meter is electronic, it is worth looking at what it displays (the error will be visible to the naked eye. The fact is, no supplier or operator will disassemble such a cabinet in its first part to find a fault. This is not ZK. An electrician-conservator is responsible for the solution ( assuming that he has an idea about the prefabricated element or, as a last resort, has technical documentation for it).

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a power issue in a private apartment within a 24-family block, where one of the three electrical phases has ceased to function. The apartment owner initially consulted a private electrician who determined that the problem lies before the pre-meter fuses, necessitating involvement from the building administration. The administration redirected the owner to the power company, which stated that such faults are not their responsibility. Participants in the forum suggest that the building administration should address the issue, as it may stem from a fault in the building's electrical distribution system or a malfunction in the pre-meter protection. They emphasize the importance of the property manager's role in diagnosing and resolving the issue, as well as the potential need for an electrician familiar with the building's main switchgear.
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