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[Solved] Router + modem to Netia (WiFi) - Which router with modem to netia max 20Mbit?

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  • #1 16174215
    newcastle26
    Level 10  
    Hello.
    There are many similar topics, but the more I read the more, I have the impression, I have more confusion in my head and I can't make a choice for any treasures.
    I already know that I need a router with ADSL2 + modem (Annex A).
    And I don't know what to buy.
    I would care for a router with 5dBi antennas due to the fact that I live in a house from the 80s and I have quite thick walls (and sometimes I could use the Internet downstairs).
    And I would like to take full advantage of what netia gives me (max 18 Mbit physically).
    I do not know whether one range or two, I do not know whether it is necessary to look for 802.11ac or 802.11n is enough (at the moment I have probably 802.11b and I pull max. 7-8 Mbit).
    I read that a modem + router set separately would not be the worst solution. But that's dark magic for me at all and I would prefer to stay with the solution with one device (I'm already old) :)
    I would like to spend about PLN 200 or 250 on the router.
    I am asking for help in choosing.

    Would that be ok?
    TP-LINK TD-W8970

    Thank you and all the best for the New Year :)
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    #2 16174288
    bogiebog
    Level 43  
    Up to 18mbs speed "N" is enough, eg W8951 adsl router, on the allegro for PLN 50
    As one rotuer is not enough for WIFI, add another (in another place on another WIFF channel) connected _Cable_ to the main router, the second ethernet router, e.g. WR841ND.

    Do you already have a router?

    This W8970 is OK, but be aware that if WIFI doesn't cover the whole house you will have to buy another WIFI, so calculate.
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  • #3 16174524
    newcastle26
    Level 10  
    I only have the one from netia. But once it is 802.11b, two - during the pre-Christmas cleaning daughter broke the antenna.
    I don't remember the name and I can't check it because I'm at work.
    And, for example, biantenium wouldn't be a better solution?
    I would not like to pull extra cables down or other room. On the other hand, if I had no choice, I would manage.
    And one more question - does the dual-band router improve connection stability or just its speed?
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  • #4 16174555
    bogiebog
    Level 43  
    Dwenatenowy may or may not improve range. If money is not a problem, take it.

    Instead of cables, you can use a pair of PLC adapters.

    newcastle26 wrote:
    And one more question - does the dual-band router improve connection stability or just its speed?

    If the 2ghz band is crowded, it's probably 5gh better.
    If a lot of walls and a weak signal is not, 5gh damped stronger than 2ghz.

    If the 5ghz signal is strong enough to break through obstacles then OK.

    You also need a 5ghz card on your computers.
  • #5 16174570
    newcastle26
    Level 10  
    bogiebog wrote:
    If money is not a problem, take it

    :) there is always a problem here :)

    Could you present the topic of PLC adapters?
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  • #7 16174609
    newcastle26
    Level 10  
    Approx. Thanks a lot.
    But you exaggerated with this grandma :)
  • #8 16175116
    bogiebog
    Level 43  
    Personally, I use W8951N (orange brands these neostrada routers) 10 / 1mbs but I have WIFI off
  • #9 16186683
    newcastle26
    Level 10  
    Welcome back.
    Router purchased. At the beginning I wanted to buy a TP-Link Router TD-W8961ND, but that being in the store it turned out that the difference between the mentioned and TD-W8968 is only PLN 20, I decided on the latter. The difference between them is the USB port. And probably just so many things important to me.
    I have only been using it for a few hours and the only thing I can write compared to my old, "Neti" router is: twice the speed (super), WiFi coverage almost identical. And here I am soooo disappointed :( Finally 2 antennas 5dBi and d ... a :(
    And again I wonder what to do. Leave him or look for something else.
    Before I wrote this thread I bought another router (also TP Link, but I don't remember the model). Not fully aware of what I need, I bought without ADSL. I write this as a curiosity. This modem had 3 5 dBi antennas and the range was also almost the same as on the old one, Then I thought something was wrong with the router, but as you can see the power and the number of antennas do not go hand in hand with the range.
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    #10 16186769
    jimasek
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl  
    The power of routers legally sold in our country is regulated by regulations and in the 2.4 GHz band that you use is limited to 100mW. It should be noted that the 2.4 GHz band is microwaves at higher doses harmful to living organisms.
    Most SOHO routers with external antennas will have a similar range in this band. The number of antennas is used to achieve higher speeds in the network, not the range.
  • #11 16186839
    newcastle26
    Level 10  
    I understand that now. A colleague bogiebog wrote that he may or may not improve the range. I was hoping that maybe it would improve. Nothing. I will test it a bit and see how the connection looks.
    So in fact the 2 dBi antenna will have the same range as 5 dBi only will have a lower speed, and not as the drawings on the packaging of routers show the range in the whole two-level house :D :D :D
  • #12 16186856
    jimasek
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl  
    newcastle26 wrote:
    So in fact the 2 dBi antenna will have the same range as 5 dBi

    I didn't write anything like that, I talked about the power of routers and not about the gain of antennas which significantly affect the range.
  • #13 16186894
    newcastle26
    Level 10  
    jimasek wrote:
    The number of antennas is used to achieve higher speeds in the network, not the range.

    That's how I received it.

    Well, I wonder how it is that an old router with one, in addition a broken antenna has the same range as tp link with three.
    Can anything interfere with the WiFi signal?
  • #14 16186913
    jimasek
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl  
    newcastle26 wrote:
    Well, I wonder how it is that an old router with one

    Well, the fact that he is old and the norms (regulations limiting power) have not yet concerned him.

    newcastle26 wrote:
    Can anything interfere with the WiFi signal?

    Of course it can, the bandwidth is public and very noisy.

    50mW - 17dbm
    63mW - 18dBm
    100mW - 20dBm
    126mW - 21dBm
    252mW - 24dBm
    504mW - 27dBm
    1000mW - 30dBm
    2000mW - 33dBm

    In Poland, by law, a radio transmitting or receiving-receiving device operating in the frequency of:

    2,400 - 2,4835 GHz can operate with a maximum power of 100 mW eirp (20dBm)
    5.150 - 5.350 GHz can operate with a maximum power of 200 mW eirp (23dBm) with a clear indication that this band has been approved for indoor use only
    5,470 - 5,725 GHz can operate with a maximum power of 1000 mW eirp (30dBm)
  • #15 16186931
    newcastle26
    Level 10  
    jimasek wrote:
    Well, the fact that he is old and the norms (regulations limiting power) have not yet concerned him.


    So, if I combine well, in my case (and probably a large part of users) it would not be the worst solution to buy an old ASDL2 + router, with Annex A, N - and I would not notice the difference.
  • #16 16186945
    jimasek
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl  
    You can't do a lot of space with one device, colleague @bogiebog gave solutions.
    Old devices 5-7 years old that have been used can fail.
  • #17 16186965
    newcastle26
    Level 10  
    Now I know :)
    I just thought peasant reasoning (without offending anyone) that more antennas = definitely greater range. And here is a surprise :)
    I hope that the connection quality will be better than in the old one.
    Thank you very much for the answers.
    Short thread, but I hope it helps someone.
    And in case of any additional doubts I will ask you.
  • #18 21509231
    newcastle26
    Level 10  
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Topic summary

The discussion focuses on selecting a suitable ADSL2+ Annex A modem-router compatible with Netia's maximum 18-20 Mbit service, emphasizing WiFi coverage in a house with thick walls. For speeds up to 18 Mbit, 802.11n ("N") WiFi is sufficient; 802.11ac is not necessary. Dual-band routers may improve speed and stability if the 5 GHz band is accessible, but 5 GHz signals have poorer penetration through walls compared to 2.4 GHz. External antennas with higher gain (e.g., 5 dBi) do not necessarily increase range due to legal power limits (100 mW in 2.4 GHz band in Poland) but can improve speed via MIMO technology. WiFi range can be extended using additional routers connected via Ethernet or PLC (Power Line Communication) adapters to avoid extra cabling. Older routers without power restrictions may have better range but risk reliability issues. The TP-Link TD-W8968 was chosen over TD-W8961ND for its USB port, but WiFi coverage remained similar despite having two 5 dBi antennas. The discussion clarifies that antenna gain affects speed more than range, and interference and building materials significantly impact WiFi performance. Overall, a single ADSL2+ Annex A router with 802.11n and external antennas is recommended within a budget of approximately PLN 200-250, with possible use of PLC adapters or additional access points for coverage extension.
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