Upgrading Netiaspot Router for Enhanced Range, Stability & Speed: Considering TP-Link, Netia CU

Hello. I have problems with Netiaspot and I intend to exchange it for something that will guarantee better range and stability. At the moment I have two networks, when I am downstairs I use Netiaspot, as at the top, we use a second router, TP link TL-WR843ND as AP, but then the net speed is lower. In advance we can connect to the netiaspot on the stairs, the net will be faster, but the range is weaker.
One-family house, the router hangs on the wall by the stairs, often disconnects, loses coverage, Netiaspot after a new contract, supposedly up to 40mbit / s, if I remember they connected their cable to the house, but I do not know exactly what the net is, the contract says Netia CU ( copper?) Anyway, internet on netia cables.

Perhaps there is a chance to change to use only one router and one network, the price of the router does not matter (within reason, of course), maybe you can get some coverage in the garden?

Netia in what technology? up to 40, maybe VDSL over a copper telephone line? then you need a VDSL router.
What's your budget?

Perhaps it is VDSL or ADSL2 +?
Can you check it by connecting to the Netiaspot router?
The budget, as I have already written, does not matter, but if I am to spend more, let it be money well spent

search for ADSL / VDSL statistics and paste the screenshot here.

deejayscream wrote:

we use the second router, TP link TL-WR843ND as AP, but then the net speed is lower

What and how do you combine it with NS?

Will you cover the whole house with one new router - I sincerely doubt.

KOCUREK1970 wrote:

What and how do you combine it with NS?

Will you cover the whole house with one new router - I sincerely doubt.

This router upstairs is wired to NS, but somehow functions as a separate network, with a different password. So, for example, being at the top I have a choice of two networks. In general, I check which router at the moment has better internet connection. The router at the top is set in total in line with the NS on the stairs at a distance of about 10 m? Are you suggesting to set the top router to typically AP, the network extension from the bottom?
Maybe it is impossible to use only one router for the whole house, maybe I could use a second router elsewhere to increase the range?

deejayscream wrote:

That router on the top is wired to NS

Connect it with RJ45 cable, or use PLC with NS.
And in this case it is not AP, but APC (Access Point Client) - therefore lower performance.

deejayscream wrote:

Maybe it is impossible to use only one router for the whole house, maybe I could use a second router elsewhere to increase the range?

Use what I have given (either rj45 cable or PLC) and for a small amount you will be able to place the AP where it is most efficient.

Well, only the rj45 cable, or the PLC connection involves pulling the cable through the room, corridor and stairs ... to the second router. It will not suit my wife too much, for obvious reasons
The mere fact of using a PLC has already been taken into account, which is a nice thing, we'll think about it as well.
The main problem is NS and unstable internet, frequent disconnection of the connection. I have to check what internet I have and which router to replace it with, also taking into account the future, e.g. how will we get optical fibers.

deejayscream wrote:

The main problem is NS and unstable internet, frequent disconnection.

Just a question - does the internet itself break you, or ONLY the wifi connection?
If the former, report it to the operator, if the latter - unfortunately, but only the wire or PLC.

deejayscream wrote:

I need to check what internet I have and what router to replace it with, also taking into account the future, for example, how will we get optical fibers.

ADSL / VDSL at the moment (rather ADSL2 + or lower), and if there is optical fiber, a router with a WAAN port will be needed.

Well, great buddy, I'm starting to know something more.
"ADSL / VDSL at the moment (rather ADSL2 + or lower)"
Will I find out what models you would recommend, let's say 3-4 for PLN 300-400 what can I find ?? As I said, how should I spend it, let it be money well spent.

deejayscream wrote:

Will I find out eventually

Absolutely - just tell yourself in what technology you have it delivered.

deejayscream wrote:

Perhaps it is VDSL or ADSL2 +?
Can it be checked by connecting to the Netiaspot router?

LucekB wrote:

search for ADSL / VDSL statistics and paste the screenshot here.

So we wait...

Hello, after a long break, it took a while before I found out more about my link.
Here is a screenshot from NetiaSpot. Now you can probably say something more about the router for such a link.

You need a VDSL router (spooore prices).
The only question is, do you still have a telephone on this NS and any IPTV?

No, nothing extra. Only net. Significant prices, i.e.?

deejayscream wrote:

Significant prices, i.e.?

From 300 PLN and up ...

Cool, I thought it was going to get worse
Any 2-3 models that will also support optical fiber in the future?

deejayscream wrote:

Cool, I thought it was going to get worse

Because PLN 300 is the initial price for the simplest and least functional device.
Standard prices of good VDSL / WAN equipment are PLN 500 and more ...

deejayscream wrote:

Any 2-3 models that will also support optical fiber in the future?

You will get the optical fiber from the operator anyway (it must be) - and from it you can connect it to your router via the WAN port, so practically every router with a WAN port, with a LAN / WAN port of 1 Gb,

As for Companies - look for Asus, FritzBox, maybe you will also find something from Netgear.
Are you looking for VDSL / WAN hardware.

Hmm, maybe instead of buying a VDSL router, you would buy an ordinary router with a WAN port and set Netia Spot to bridge mode?

In my opinion, it will be a better option for the money of such a router with VDSL, you will buy a much better router with a WAN port and then for optical fiber it will also be suitable

mazi292 wrote:

Hmm, maybe instead of buying a VDSL router, you would buy an ordinary router with a WAN port and set Netia Spot to bridge mode?

What would such a connection look like? I understand that then I connect these two routers via the network, not via a cable (this option is not available), and an additional router with a WAN port as an extension of the signal?

deejayscream wrote:

I understand that then I connect these two routers via the network, not via a cable (this option is not available), and an additional router with a WAN port as an extension of the signal?

The NS equipment will only be a modem (without wifi) and you go with the cable to your new router to the WAN port and then it "does" for the router.
There will be two devices and both will have to be on all the time.

mazi292 wrote:

in my opinion, a better option for the money of such a router with VDSL, you will buy a much better router with a WAN port and then for optical fiber it will also be suitable

The prices of such infinitely better routers start from 300 and up .

I expressed myself a bit badly, I meant that for the price of one of the cheaper VDSL routers it is better to buy an ordinary router for the money

Everything is great, but connecting the NS and the second router at some distance with a cable may be a small problem, although the option suits me very well, it probably would have to be combined with pulling the cable through the stairs on the mezzanine to the living room where we spend the most time and use the internet. .
Now just what router ??

How many meters would be between the routers?

deejayscream wrote:

This is the way to go.

There is something like a PLC, a set of 150 PLN new.

deejayscream wrote:

Now just what router ??

Anyone with a 100 Mb WAN / LAN port (50 Mb for your net is enough).
Unless you want to go crazy and buy a router with a 1 Gb WAN / LAN port .
And the next question - should it be only 2.4 GHz or 5 GHz?

And make sure the NS actually has bridge mode and can be activated!

Netia Spot has 100% bridge mode

Some time has passed and I still don't have an answer to my question
If I set the NS to Bridge mode and buy a better router with a WAN port and 5 ghz wifi, will i get such a network> netiaspot only has wifi 2.4 ghz.
The router that I am thinking of:
https://www.ceneo.pl/26385036#tab=reviews
I have the same one in exile and I am very happy.

Nothing gets better. You have the wrong network topology. The device at the top, in APC mode, works on the same channel as the netia spot and thus they interfere with each other. This layout was acceptable when the link was 5-10Mbps, not 40 or more. First, you need to connect an additional AP on the top with a cable, change the channel layout (difference by a minimum of three), then reduce the channel width to 20MHz in the device settings. Then set the same SSID and password on both devices and manually select the security as WPA2-AES-PSK. The 5GHz network is for nothing - the range is about half as much as at 2.4GHz, so what would you like to regenerate on the second floor with your toys?
Lay the cable, configure the devices and it will be ok. Besides, the problem is probably not a serious one, since you haven't removed it for two years
For PLN 1000 saved on devices (top and bottom), buy your wife gold earrings and she will not see the wire. Everyone will be pleased.

A little update, no more AP upstairs, only Netiaspot at the stairs and a dramatic 2.4GHz network. The problem didn't fix itself, I didn't have much time for it myself, now I have and want to do something about it. 5ghz network, plus possibly 2.3 plc adapters to the most remote corners of the house.

Earring advice to take into account :)

I still do not understand why no one will ask me this way: Buy this or that router with vdsl and throw Netiaspot to hell. there will be no duplication of devices.

Nobody can help you buy this or that, because ... no one is a sales representative here and there is no commission on it, and no one conducts word-of-mouth marketing here. When you build a house, first the foundations, then the walls and finally the roof. You insisted that you want to replace the roof covering because it is leaking, but you cannot see that it is leaking because the foundations and walls are cracking. Nobody will tell you what to buy until you solve the problems at the bottom:
- bad network topology
- ISP link state unchecked
Otherwise, you will buy something, it will not work anymore, and you will blame what the device offered you.
You must first check the condition of the line, then connect the wires, then buy devices. What should you do:
- connect the laptop with a factory cable (relatively short) to Netia spot and test the operation for a few hours
- ok, then distribute the wires to several places in the house (the maximum 5GHz network range is one wall), you can use instead of PLC wires, but it will be much worse and much more expensive (better to buy these earrings).
- if the wired connection is ok, you only buy the devices then. I recommend those that support roaming (so that there will be no problems with switching the client between APs). You can buy Unifi UAP AC LITE.
- In Netia spot you turn off Wifi.

Ps.
A week ago there was an identical problem:
https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3629545.html

Finishing this thread, I decided to choose the option with Netiaspot in bridge mode + probably an Asus AC1200 router, or some higher model + 2 PLC WiFi adapters to the most sensitive places in the apartment. in netiaspot / router options should be additionally disabled / enabled?
Regards