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[Solved] Which charger for a maintenance-free battery?

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Can I charge a maintenance-free car battery with an old transformer rectifier that rises to 16.8V, or should I buy an automatic charger to charge it fully and safely?

Buy an automatic charger; forum users recommended an automatic microprocessor unit such as Lidl/CTEK/Bosch C3 rather than relying on the old rectifier [#16199418] A maintenance-free battery should be charged only up to about 15V at an electrolyte temperature below 25°C, so the charging process must be monitored and stopped in time [#16199625] If you keep the old rectifier, add a simple voltage-control circuit and cut off charging when the voltage reaches about 14.8V [#16199567] One user also reported good results with a Sena charger and said it charges without disconnecting the clamps [#17004744]
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  • #1 16193097
    bejrutmc
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    Hello
    I have a "maintenance-free" center future 72Ah. I have an old rectifier that starts from 13.4V and after less than an hour it gives a voltage of about 16.8V on the connected battery. Of course, the amperage drops at this time. Of course, I stopped charging right away. In this battery, you can open the strip with plugs. Can I charge with this voltage after opening? I plan to buy an automatic, microprocessor rectifier (ladybug sena, bosch c3 or yato 8301). Hence my question which rectifier (old transformer or new automatic) will charge my battery 100% ??
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  • #2 16193284
    kkknc
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    Both.
  • #3 16193552
    marekwodniak
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    I have already had such Center Future for the second time. The first one lasted 6 years and I didn't manage to open it. But I didn't do anything by force.
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  • #4 16199418
    wojtekbp
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    I suggest you buy an automatic. I have had two lidl chargers for several years. I charge the batteries in 2 cars, a garden tractor and a motorcycle. The device is brilliant. If you have more money, buy yourself a ctek or a bosch c3. I appreciate the fact that I don't have to supervise the charging process and the maintenance function that I use on my motorcycle and lawn tractor.
  • #5 16199481
    REMUR.
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    This week a friend bought such an invention "MBC1207 12V 7 stage impulse charger", after two hours with the charger connected, 22 V voltage on the terminals. He stopped charging because the electrolyte began to boil. The parameters in the manual are more suitable for a 24V charger. Unfortunately, I don't know what current was consumed during the charging.
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  • #6 16199516
    tzok
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    REMUR. wrote:
    after two hours with the charger connected, the voltage 22 V on the terminals
    Apparently he had found an inoperative copy. The manual says that "The 12V charger will turn on this protection if the voltage exceeds 17.5V".
  • #7 16199524
    REMUR.
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    I think that the folding was made wrong and the system from the 24V charger was put inside. Because it would make sense.
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  • #8 16199567
    gimak
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    marekwodniak wrote:
    I have already had such Center Future for the second time. The first one lasted 6 years and I didn't manage to open it. But I didn't do anything by force.

    In the first one, it was possible to remove the lid, because I also had one and it lasted that long. The second one I bought is not open anymore.
    bejrutmc wrote:
    I have an old rectifier that starts from 13.4V and after less than an hour it gives a voltage of about 16.8V on the connected battery. Of course, the amperage drops at this time.

    And it is enough to add a simple voltage control system to it and interrupt charging when the voltage increases to 14.8V - this is a proposal that has a flair in this direction.
  • #9 16199625
    vodiczka
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    bejrutmc wrote:
    I have an old rectifier that starts from 13.4V and after less than an hour it gives a voltage of about 16.8V on the connected battery.
    It is not the rectifier (especially old one) that starts with ....
    It is the battery that determines the voltage depending on the degree of its discharge and the intensity of the charging current.
    The more charged the battery, the higher the voltage. Maintenance-free batteries are charged up to a maximum of 15V with an electrolyte temperature not exceeding 25 ° C.
    The charging process should be monitored and stopped in good time, or:
    gimak wrote:
    add a simple voltage control circuit and interrupt the charging as the voltage rises to 14.8V
  • #10 16200400
    robokop
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    REMUR. wrote:
    This week a friend bought such an invention "MBC1207 12V 7 stage impulse charger", after two hours with the charger connected, 22 V voltage on the terminals. He stopped charging because the electrolyte began to boil. The parameters in the manual are more suitable for a 24V charger. Unfortunately, I don't know what current was consumed during the charging.
    Nonsense buddy. At 22V, a current of at least 50A would flow - I do not think the charger will be able to give back that much.
  • #11 16200444
    Waldemar z Kaszub
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    bejrutmc wrote:
    Hence my question which rectifier (old transformer or new automatic) will charge my battery 100% ??

    You have not written anything about the temperature at which you charged the battery. If outside (without removing from the car) at the current temperatures, it is unlikely to be fully charged and the voltage will increase rapidly during charging.
  • Seeking a 14.4 V regulated rectifier with current limiting

    #12 16203070
    bejrutmc
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    I purchased a vending machine. The battery had 12.4V before charging, after overnight charging it reached 12.8V. We will see how it will keep this tension because the centers are already 5.5 years old according to the production date. However, I will use both. I will put the battery in an emergency with high current in 10-20 minutes to take off as I have already done, and normally I will load the machine.
    I am thinking about remaking the old rectifier. Initially, I even thought about including the light bulb in the system to limit the current, and use a meter to control the process and ultimately the conversion. Does anyone have a proven scheme? If only there was a limitation to these 14.4V.
  • #13 16203094
    kkknc
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    Use ready-made KDSP07 unless you like warmth then KDSNxx
  • #14 16277850
    fan_r
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    This charger from Lidl is really pretty good. Processor controlled. Here in the forum a lot of admiration has already fallen on him. This is the first rectifier worth having.
    With more than 1 car, I still recommend a rectifier with a start. It still depends on which car we are talking about, but there are those that can give 600A. For example, here the specification: http://techsul.pl/index.php?cPath=59
  • #15 16278051
    kkknc
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    Well, just perfect. @fan_r don't advertise miracles. Because it's a good way to release a modern car. Especially when you don't know what boot is. I do not mention such a small detail as a 110A fuse in a system that supposedly gives 600A.
  • #16 17004744
    bejrutmc
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    I purchased a Sena charger from a ladybug. Charges the battery without disconnecting the clamps. For now, the battery is on its feet. So I recommend this charger, it has a display and an affordable price.

Topic summary

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The discussion revolves around the appropriate charger for a maintenance-free 72Ah battery, specifically a Center Future model. The user reports issues with an old rectifier that initially charges at 13.4V but quickly escalates to 16.8V, prompting concerns about battery safety. Recommendations include purchasing an automatic microprocessor charger, with specific mentions of brands like Ctek, Bosch C3, and Lidl chargers. Users emphasize the importance of monitoring charging voltage, suggesting that maintenance-free batteries should not exceed 15V during charging. Some participants share experiences with various chargers, highlighting the effectiveness of automatic models that do not require constant supervision. The user ultimately decides to buy a Sena charger, which has shown positive results.
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