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UPS for Termet Minimax Gas Boiler: Voltage Surge Protection & Car Battery Compatibility (100W)

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  • #1 16233838
    wierzba123
    Level 16  
    Hello. Sometimes I have a problem with voltage surges in the installation and the termet minimax gas boiler catches an error and then the controller needs to be reset. I am looking for cheap ups and it does not have to be kept long enough to protect against voltage surges and one could connect a car battery to it. Can you advise something, recommend some proven ups? The boiler takes 100W.
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  • #2 16233867
    daro31ie
    Automation specialist
    Buddy, I recommend UPS but with a full sine wave.
    Before buying, check if it is suitable for powering engines.
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  • #3 16233883
    wierzba123
    Level 16  
    Yes, I know that it should have a full sine wave, but how to check if it is suitable for motors? From what I read on the electrode, a lot of people use UPS Ever cds 500, but also many had problems with it after connecting to the battery.
  • #4 16233905
    SKM 1964
    Level 34  
    The only way out is to connect the oscilloscope under the UPS. Then you will see what the graph is. :|
  • #5 16234147
    daro31ie
    Automation specialist
    Buddy, what oscilloscope?
    Click on allegro ups for pumps and you have the results in 1s.
  • #6 16234211
    wierzba123
    Level 16  
    There is exactly a mass of this with a pure sine, but which will work if I want to connect a stronger battery, e.g. a car one. Maybe someone has a proven model and will recommend?
  • #7 16234240
    Adamcyn
    Level 38  
    wierzba123 wrote:
    I am looking for cheap ups - and it doesn't have to be long enough to protect against power surges and you could connect a car battery to it once.

    UPS Ever cds 500 and similar operating in mains mode will not improve its parameters in this respect.
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  • #8 16234277
    wierzba123
    Level 16  
    For me, the case is that I have two circuits cut off with solenoid valves. When the voltage is disconnected, the boiler resets and detects a flow error because the ez are closed when no one is heating at this point. That is why I need something to support so that the stove electronics does not reset when the electricity is turned off for 30 seconds at night.

    I ordered the UPS Ever ECO cds700 Pro. with a dead battery. Originally there is 12v 7.2 Ah. What is the biggest battery in this case?
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  • #9 16251394
    hemicznyali
    Level 15  
    wierzba123 wrote:
    For me, the case is that I have two circuits cut off with solenoid valves. When the voltage is disconnected, the boiler resets and detects a flow error because the ez are closed when no one is heating at this point. That is why I need something to support so that the stove electronics does not reset when the electricity is turned off for 30 seconds at night.

    From what you write, it can be concluded that you have overdone this installation, the boilers are built in such a way that a power interruption of 30 seconds is not a problem and after restoring the power supply, each efficient boiler should start normal operation. The problem, however, may be very short interruptions that generate disturbing pulses.
    I have been using two installations with gas boilers for about 20 years and so far I have had no major problems with power outages, and the installations are quite complicated.
    A power outage of up to several hours is no problem. On the other hand, buying a UPS Ever ECO cds700 Pro is a mistake, even with a 40 Ah battery connected to the outside, there is no need to count on any significant effects because the UPS will turn on when there is no power in the network, regardless of whether there is a demand for heat or not, and when it will be needed that the battery is discharged. The only logical solution is a system based on a controller that will turn on the UPS only in case of heat demand and reset the boiler if necessary, i.e. an error caused by disturbances and the central heating installation must also be well thought out in terms of energy demand for emergency power supply.
    It is all to be done, but it is not cheap.
  • #10 16253249
    wierzba123
    Level 16  
    It is not overcomplicated, but so much I could do on the existing installation without breaking up half of the apartment. There were ups, I replaced the battery with 10ah. The installation with valves and the boiler connected via ups are all good.
  • #11 16254545
    hemicznyali
    Level 15  
    wierzba123 wrote:
    There were ups, I replaced the battery with 10ah. The installation with valves and the boiler connected via ups are all good.

    It's good that it flies, the question is how long is 15 minutes. maybe half an hour and that's it.
  • #12 16391176
    wierzba123
    Level 16  
    If the stove is still running, it lasts about an hour. For me, this is a sufficient solution, because there are no long power outages, only voltage drops or surges at which the stove caught an error. Now it's ok with zero errors.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around finding a suitable uninterruptible power supply (UPS) for a Termet Minimax gas boiler, specifically to protect against voltage surges and to allow connection to a car battery. Users emphasize the need for a UPS with a pure sine wave output, as some models, like the Ever CDS 500, have been reported to cause issues when connected to batteries. The conversation highlights the importance of ensuring the UPS can handle motor loads and the necessity of testing with an oscilloscope for optimal performance. One user mentions using the Ever ECO CDS 700 Pro with a 10Ah battery, noting that it effectively mitigates errors caused by short power interruptions. Overall, the community shares experiences and recommendations regarding UPS models and battery compatibility for maintaining boiler functionality during power fluctuations.
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