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Toshiba 32rl838 SPI change - Is it possible to convert 25l1606E (2MB) to 25Q32 (

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  • #1 16268544
    E8600
    Level 41  
    Hello everyone, as I'm new to the forum.
    As in the subject, whether the larger memory 25Q32BVBSIG (4MB) will go to the toshiba 32rl838 in place of the original 25L1606E (2MB). I am asking because memory is flooded with resin looks like this Toshiba 32rl838 SPI change - Is it possible to convert 25l1606E (2MB) to 25Q32 (
    Only mechanical removal is involved, and the bone will probably not survive getting into the pins.
    I have a programmer and a batch (I hope that a good batch because it is difficult to access)
    Anticipating the questions, the power supply is rather ok, the voltage appears after applying voltage to POWER-ON. And the TV is only stand-by, no reaction to buttons (no remote). I want to diagnose TV at a negligible cost.
    Motherboard model: Toshiba V28A001328A1 (PE1014)
    Thank you in advance
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  • #2 16269473
    LEONI62
    Level 10  
    And if you try MStar ISP utility
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  • #3 16269606
    E8600
    Level 41  
    Hello
    Can you expand on what this program is about?
    I have this programmer: Toshiba 32rl838 SPI change - Is it possible to convert 25l1606E (2MB) to 25Q32 (
    and the program for it. I did not find any pins on the board to program on the board. I would be saved by a soft self-starter with a pendrive available only in authorized services, which I did not find.
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  • #4 16269750
    lisek
    Service technician RTV
    Read from 2014, this forum Link
    Read on Link
    The charge of IC121 is on Link

    ** PE1014- V28A001328A1 / these boards on ebay are from 25.funs / 30 euros

    SM xxRL838 you have on Link_this forum
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  • #5 16269809
    E8600
    Level 41  
    Hello
    Previously, I tried the suggested method with usb, but no effect. I tried both with the update from Toshiba as well as full soft, of course, unpacked. 2gb pendrive of course fat.
    He concludes that the bone is dead, because I got to the pins under the resin, I soldered the wires to the bone and when connected to the programmer, the bone is detected correctly. I grabbed the content but almost the same FF. Previously, there was only stand-by, now after deleting the death because the memory is deleted.
    Despite deleting the content, it is not clean. Additionally, she is unable to program a verification error? As you think, the substituted 4MB bone should fire or not necessarily. The pin layout is identical to what I saw in the bone diagrams. I found a similar topic with bone replacement on the electrode but there was no factual answer or any practical tests?
    Does anyone have a certain batch of this memory or a certain soft for this tv? In the end, I will probably replace this 4MB bone anyway, because that's the only one I have at home. Please remember that I am a beginner.
  • #6 16269914
    lisek
    Service technician RTV
    I haven't done this> i always use org. size SPI Flash
    e.g. 2MB (W25Q32)

    Question: what is (Support new SPI flash type: MXIC 25L1606E)?
    - what's the difference, because not all programmers read it

    Toshiba 32rl838 SPI change - Is it possible to convert 25l1606E (2MB) to 25Q32 (


    But e.g. in routers, when converting 4MB to 8MB SPI, copy the last 64k from 4MB to the last 64K 8MB
  • #7 16269945
    E8600
    Level 41  
    Hello
    Does he understand correctly that routers like this work, but you need to copy the last end of the batch to the right place of the larger bones? The charge that I have has the same FF from the half, so do I have to do such a thing? Does he understand correctly - it is about 64kB of batch?
    Diagram to identify the elements around memory? If so, the resin prevents it. He understands that by these elements I would know if the bone will come?
  • #8 16270042
    lisek
    Service technician RTV
    This is Flash schematic on Vestel, there is also sometimes 25l1606e (Vestel 17MB95S-1)
    Link
    or e.g. Link
  • #9 16270050
    Zbigniew Sekula
    Level 22  
    And where did you get these memory sizes because it displays me much larger. Toshiba 32rl838 SPI change - Is it possible to convert 25l1606E (2MB) to 25Q32 (
    LEONI62 wrote:
    25l1606E (2MB) for 25Q32 (4MB)
  • #10 16270059
    Sareph
    Level 24  
    Zbigniew Sekula wrote:
    And where did you get these memory sizes because it displays me much larger.

    16Mb (it) == 2MB (ytes)
  • #11 16270078
    E8600
    Level 41  
    I will try to remove the resin without damaging the board and put in a larger memory, if there is any sign of life, I will let you know :)
  • #12 16270087
    Zbigniew Sekula
    Level 22  
    I have MX25L1605 and I can program.
  • #13 16270543
    E8600
    Level 41  
    The case is as follows;
    I was able to dismantle the bone, despite the residual legs that have been extended, the programmer is programming it and verifying it
    and it shows that the bone is functional despite what it went through worse with the plate. Proof that the bone works.
    Toshiba 32rl838 SPI change - Is it possible to convert 25l1606E (2MB) to 25Q32 (
    Under the black resin there were also smd elements, which I expected but I did not think that so close to the flash circuit itself, which are not necessarily good 1 capacitor (probably 100n to ground) disappeared together with the resin and I violated some 8-6 pin system (hard to say resin ) later I will see in the manual what it could have been. Toshiba 32rl838 SPI change - Is it possible to convert 25l1606E (2MB) to 25Q32 (
    Do I think this 8-pin element is a parallel resistor protecting the memory? What value because I did not find on the web? Can this be bypassed / bridged?
    Of course, before deleting the memory, I took a batch that looks quite good at first glance (not like it was when the bone was almost all FF on the disc).
    Later I will look at exactly this board if it makes sense to solder the recovered system to a spider.

    This remark is made of the resin heated with a flat tip of a soldering iron (I came to it later, after mechanical tests).
    I do not want to start a new topic, so I will ask here if I want to upload some pics to the website, it is done in the form of a new topic (because something like that popped up) I ask because I have something on the disk there may be useful to someone and whether the author sets the number of points for downloading or doing is this service? And I must admit that I have not read the regulations in detail, do not check if such a file is already there, because it makes me a little discouraged by browsing and searching
    Thanks in advance
  • #14 16270838
    mirex
    Level 43  
    E8600 wrote:
    Do I think this 8-pin element is a parallel resistor protecting the memory? What value because I did not find on the web?

    After all, you have the value indicated in the diagram.
    It is easy to find out, because there are a lot of such ladders on the board, which is also visible in the diagram.
  • #15 16270864
    Michał99
    Level 33  
    Memory can be read and written, but you don't know if the batch is correct, you can post it in this topic, of course without points. When you are sure that it is ok, put it in the base of TV, DVB-T input with points.
  • #16 16271138
    E8600
    Level 41  
    So, to end the skirmishes with this board, I soldered without the parallel resistor = the corpse's plate. If I removed the resins with a soldering iron from the very beginning, maybe the board would be in a better condition, although I will know it in the future (you learn from mistakes). Of course, I will only put the batch to ask if someone checks it, let me write info that it's okay.
    I upload files, maybe they will be useful to someone:

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of replacing the original 2MB SPI flash memory (25L1606E) in a Toshiba 32RL838 TV with a larger 4MB memory chip (25Q32BVBSIG). The user faces challenges due to the original memory being encased in resin, complicating removal without damaging the motherboard. Various responses suggest using programming utilities and techniques for memory replacement, with some users sharing experiences of successfully programming similar memory chips. The conversation also touches on the importance of pin compatibility and the potential need to copy specific data segments when upgrading memory sizes. Ultimately, the user aims to diagnose the TV at minimal cost while exploring the possibility of using a larger memory chip.
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