[Solved] What to buy ? - Audi RS6 C5 or S6 C6? 50 to 70 thousand

As the topic.

Waiting for and against the Audi RS6 C5 or S6 C6 ?

With this budget? None. The S6 has an emergency engine, and the RS6 is probably not the budget if it is to be healthy art. In both cars the starter pack will not be cheap either, so if the budget is for the car and the starter pack, then you may think about S4 B5 (B6 too, but here again engine problems), maybe S6 C5. Recently, I even talked to someone who was looking for a nice RS6 C5 - 70k is the absolute minimum if you want to think about a nice, healthy and well-kept car.

siewcu wrote:

S6 has an emergency engine

Do you mean overheating of the rear cylinders?

siewcu wrote:

The starter pack will not be cheap either

This is separate - about 10,000 is enough (unless c6 will have ceramics it is not enough).

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siewcu wrote:

if it is to be really healthy art

Only this is at stake.

The car is to be used occasionally - about 5 - 10,000. km per year.

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siewcu wrote:

B6 too, but here again engine problems

What to avoid

siewcu wrote:

maybe S6 C5

299-340 hp - a bit low.

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siewcu wrote:

S4 B5 (B6 too, but here again engine problems),

B6 seems to have the same engine as C5 S6.

If you want to ride occasionally, this is a strange choice in my opinion - these are, however, heavy and large cows. And answering: V10 with S6 C6 has many different problems with the engine - it overheats, I have also heard about shells and oil pump. When it comes to avoiding - the S4 B6 has a lot of problems with timing, emergency phasers and the topic is very difficult to understand (besides, I am not sure if the RS6 C5 does not have the same problem - 2x2500 phasers + camshaft). And if it is supposed to be a car for driving and possibly freezing cash, I would be looking for some classic or S4 B5 + reinforcement - for 70 thousand you will break through the RS6 C5 powerfully, although it is a completely different category of car. Alternatively, some Porsche, although on a turbo budget is at least 2 times, preferably 3 times.

siewcu wrote:

Alternatively, some Porsche, although on a turbo budget is at least 2 times, preferably 3 times.

That's right - not this price range.

For a moment there was the Cayenne 4.8 turbo option but also the problematic engine - overheating of the rear cylinders.

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siewcu wrote:

RS6 C5

It's turbo.

siewcu wrote:

S4 B6

There is no turbo.

Well, I know that the S4 B6 is a Wolossak, just like the S6 C6 - only none of the cars listed by you can be bought in the budget, if it is a well-kept copy that will not require the investment of a dump truck ... be turbo and give driving pleasure, I would leave such cars as in the subject and look for, for example, STi Events. On Lancer Evo a bit budget. Possibly S3, though a bit small (or A3 3.2 + turbo), or S2 - but it's a classic and very hard to find. And if you want more help, it would be best if you wrote what are the assumptions about buying a car - without guessing you can help specifically.

Audi Rs6 C5 - this one you will find quietly around 2002-2003, just beware because there is a 4.2 V8 engine ordinary injection but double-charged (bi-turbo), whatever you sprinkle, you have a chapel right away.
And you didn't think about 2.7T at the beginning? in ordinary A6 C5? you will find a good tuner and it will draw cool powers and yet the unit is a bit cheaper to maintain than such engines where any sensor is thousands of zlotys.
possibly 1.8T, but here you have to walk a lot, but you will reach 280 by calmness.

You can also look for the Audi A4 B7 1.8T will be quite a young car and for the rest of the money 20,000 calmly spend on even 300 horses.

All those old RS6 S6 etc. A8 will pull hard on the pocket with these high mileage engines.

Kantylena wrote:

Audi Rs6 C5 - this one you will find quietly around 2002-2003, just beware because there is a 4.2 V8 engine ordinary injection but double-charged (bi-turbo), whatever you sprinkle, you have a chapel right away.
And you didn't think about 2.7T at the beginning? in ordinary A6 C5? you will find a good tuner and it will draw cool powers and yet the unit is a bit cheaper to maintain than such engines where any sensor is thousands of zlotys.
possibly 1.8T, but here you have to walk a lot, but you will reach 280 by calmness.

You can also look for the Audi A4 B7 1.8T will be quite a young car and for the rest of the money 20,000 calmly spend on even 300 horses.

All those old RS6 S6 etc. A8 will pull hard on the pocket with these high mileage engines.

Well, he will find. Checked copy. But you can see quite well that you lack knowledge in mechanics and tuning ... Because:
1) Biturbo in V8 has nothing to spill it
2) With 2.7 biturbo with A6 C5 too much can not be done, without another 1,000 you can not jump 300 KM
3) 1.8T at 280 hp will also not be cheap, turbo + intake + exhaust + injection is just the beginning - and you are doing breath, and the car will not want to go, because it's too heavy.
4) Buying A4 1.8T and putting 20,000 in them is pointless, you can spend this money better and have a car once that faster, and two - not losing value at such a pace.

siewcu wrote:

Well, he will find. Checked copy. But you can see quite well that you lack knowledge in mechanics and tuning ... Because:
1) Biturbo in V8 has nothing to spill it
2) With 2.7 biturbo with A6 C5 too much can not be done, without another 1,000 you can not jump 300 KM
3) 1.8T at 280 hp will also not be cheap, turbo + intake + exhaust + injection is just the beginning - and you are doing breath, and the car will not want to go, because it's too heavy.
4) Buying A4 1.8T and putting 20,000 in them is pointless, you can spend this money better and have a car once that faster, and two - not losing value at such a pace.

So for your suggestions great, uturbie 3.2 V6 ... what ??
engine, wheels, clutch, gearbox etc. .. maybe 30k is enough for him + purchase of the car and in a moment the car will be 10 years old and flowers will start coming out + bad driving.

Or Audi S2..no fact, he can look for one copy all over Europe, it is best to recommend him a Saab 900 turbo from 80 years and the author's budget note 70 thousand ...

So in the will to clarify the Audi RS6 C5 will find it calmly, because it's 15-year-old cars, how much is it supposed to cost 2 million ??

1.8T 270 horses ride as if you were interested in:


At least in the case of A4 B7 the author will find a young healthy car and not refuse bins for the second price that you propose to him.

And what about this V8 I do not understand? where did I write that due to biturbo something is supposed to go wrong?

I don't know who lacks any knowledge here, because I don't think so.

For a dignified rocking of large and slightly "faster" cars for reasonable money you can buy a 10-year non-tired "brick" 6.1 SRT 430KM. It is true that this is not S6, but rather for straight-ahead, only one-wheel drive (which may be an advantage for some).

Kantylena wrote:

I don't know who lacks any knowledge here, because I don't think so.

Ok, based on a movie from the internet you say about how a given car goes? Did you actually deal with such cars or just want to "help"? Lack of knowledge can be seen e.g. after ...

Kantylena wrote:

engine, wheels, clutch, gearbox etc. .. maybe 30k is enough for him + purchase of the car and in a moment the car will be 10 years old and flowers will start coming out + bad driving.

You don't know what you write. Something is calling, but you did not deal with tuning. Video from the internet, replacement of the box which accepts 800+ hp, wheels ... If you have never had anything to do with such a car, do not write about it, and try yourself on the passenger seat in the A6 C5 / C6. You have no practical knowledge in this topic, and you criticize me - I drove the A6, I also drove cars on the Golf 4 disc - and if you say that the S6 C6 / RS6 C5 will drive better than the S3 with VR6 ... Maybe you better not write no statements here because you're just sinking. And you do not understand the idea of having a car that gives you pleasure from driving, although this is a subjective matter - but driving an A4 B7 will not give you any pleasure from driving.

I am already lost in this discussion and I will just ask what is this car?

siewcu wrote:

S3 with VR6 ...

VR6 is a Golf III engine, the S3 has 2.0 TFSI, besides the S3 is a sports compact with a quattro drive.
If you mean 3.2 V6 is a slightly different engine, understeer, e.g. put two 10 kg nets on the handlebar of a bicycle and ride it, you will understand and read about engine turbo operation but this is not an oil change, really!

Returning to the topic can find the RS6 C5:
http://allegro.pl/show_item.php?item=6723789036#thumb/5

you can also choose another car, e.g.
https://www.otomoto.pl/oferta/volkswagen-golf...agen-golf-vi-r-270km-ID6yEayb.html#666620a071

and play for now in Stage II, i.e. modify the exhaust system and there will be 340 horses and 420 Nm and it will be less than a hundred seconds

You can search for BMW M3 E46 etc etc ...

I end this discussion because it makes no sense. The author has already presented everything.

Kantylena wrote:

VR6 is a Golf III engine, the S3 has 2.0 TFSI, besides the S3 is a sports compact with a quattro drive.
If you mean 3.2 V6 is a slightly different engine

And so much about your competences. A3 3.2 was sometimes referred to as S3, but V6 is not. Find, read and then make your decisions.

Szymon, buy turbo gas. It gives you great fun from driving. And this turbine whistling ...

I bought a Mercedes S400 hybrid.