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LAN network in the apartment 12 devices - what router, switch?

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  • #1 16289926
    nelik1987
    Level 31  
    Hi, after changing the flat, I finally have a well-made LAN network and order with cables. I have a CAT 6 UTP cable connected to all sockets. All cables converge to the 10 "rack. I have a patchpanel installed there. UPC is the internet provider.
    Now is the time to replace your worn-out and perpetually hanging poor-range router.
    I have a DSL modem installed in the cabinet and a router behind it. the apartment has a total of 10 sockets and 2 devices permanently connected to the LAN (alarm control panel and electricity meter). I wonder how to solve my network. I am planning to install a router that has 4 LAN ports + 12 port switch and possibly a separate AP, but I think the AP in the router will meet my expectations.
    The router and the switch will be installed in a metal RACK 6U 10 "cabinet, I want to pull the router's antennas outside the cabinet so as not to suppress the signal so the antennas must be detachable. What I really care about is fast WiFi communication between devices when transferring large files Currently, I can not pull more than 7Mb / s on any computer via WiFi. Router and switch must of course be gigabit. AP on router must be AC standard.

    Now a question for you network experts: What router to buy and what switch for it. Unless it can be solved somehow (better). My friend recommended routers with TP-Link from the Archer series, people also praise Ausa routers. What to look for when choosing a router and switch. I want to spend no more than PLN 350 on a router, no more than PLN 200 on a switch.

    However, it can do it differently, only buy a switch and AP because after the modem I am already behind NAT.

    I will be grateful for any help.
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  • #2 16290080
    xury
    Automation specialist
    Question on what bands do you have wifi devices?
    What is the internet speed from the provider?
  • #3 16290224
    nelik1987
    Level 31  
    laptops have AC wifi cards, desktops have 1Gbit LAN cards, and 100Mbit printers etc. I currently have 30 Mbit from the provider but I plan to change it to 100Mbit
  • #4 16291316
    xury
    Automation specialist
    I think the Archer 1200 should be good for you.
    As for the switch, I do not know.
  • #5 16299432
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    @ nelik1987
    I will ask you to scan InSSIDerem v2 / Home of your apartment and put the result here.
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  • #6 16299568
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #7 16299958
    nelik1987
    Level 31  
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    @ nelik1987
    I will ask you to scan InSSIDerem v2 / Home of your apartment and put the result here.


    my network as you can see is nelik_wifi

    Everyone in the neighborhood is in N or AC, but me and some single neighbors stay in G. :)
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  • #8 16300355
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    nelik1987 wrote:
    my network as you can see is nelik_wifi

    Where is the rest of the network shown in the measurement?
    There are 30 networks - and there are only channels in 2.4 GHz 13? - there is nothing to share anymore.
    2.4 GHz ether "collapsed" to the point of absurdity.
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  • #9 16300483
    nelik1987
    Level 31  
    Okay, should I walk around my neighbors and ask them to turn off WiFi? Rather, a solution must be found. What about the 5 GHz network there is much less
  • #10 16301525
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    nelik1987 wrote:
    What about the 5 GHz network there is much less

    You are right, but in the housing even worse than 2.4 GHz - the range efficiency is much lower than in the 2.4 GHz band.

    No one will tell you how bad it will be - buy a router and you have to check it yourself (of course, network cards in 5 GHz equipment must also be).
  • #11 16301594
    speedy9
    Helpful for users
    nelik1987 wrote:
    Currently, I can't get more than 7Mbps over WiFi on any computer

    On the G standard, which you are currently using, the real maximum with a light ether congestion is around 15Mb / s, so you have, say, half the maximum.
    It should work at 5GHz, but that depends on the size and layout of the apartment. In case of problems, you can think about putting a bridge (a second router in bridge mode), which will provide better signal coverage.
    I have a flat ~ 72m2 and a TP-LINK Archer C20i router. Despite the good range in the most distant room (through 3 walls in total) there are unpleasant jams when using the Internet on both 2.4GHz and 5GHz. At 5 it is subjectively worse despite the "cleaner" ether, but he mentioned it @ KOCUREK1970
  • #12 16301603
    Vytautas_YT
    Level 30  
    nelik1987 wrote:
    Okay, should I walk around my neighbors and ask them to turn off WiFi? Rather, a solution must be found.


    Option with neighbors rather poor. As for finding a solution to the problem, if someone did it, he would probably be hailed as WiFi Guru. Because of course the problem in this case is noisy Aether and I don't know any way to "denoise" it. Well, unless to live in the can.
    2.4GHz will work, buddy, but you have to be aware that with such a litany of networks in close proximity, you will not avoid problems with wireless network instability. It is best to connect the cable and use WiFi on devices that must be connected to WiFi.
  • #13 16302043
    nelik1987
    Level 31  
    bzyniu28 wrote:
    It is best to connect the cable and use WiFi on devices that must be connected to WiFi.

    This is exactly what I have done, I even connected the plotter to LAN instead of WiFi. WiFi is only used by laptops that do not have a physical RJ45 socket, as well as phones and tablets.

    Okay, I'm going to buy a router first and then think about the switch. In total, I have one switch, 100Mb / s, but for printers or plotters it does not matter much because they have 100Mb / s network cards. Later I will think about a 1000Mb / s switch
    I will review the offer of TP-Link routers once again

    Added after 34 [minutes]:

    I almost decided on the Archer C1200, but ... I read that it has UNWINNING ANTENNAS, which for me is a very big difficulty, because the router will be closed in a 10-inch RACK cabinet and I planned to take the antennas to the cabinet wall so that there would be no problem with the range. Mocel C7 has 6 antennas, 3 external 5GHz and 3 internal 2.4GHz, which is also a problem because you cannot "take out" internal antennas.
  • #14 16302227
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    nelik1987 wrote:
    the router will be closed in a 10-inch RACK cabinet

    And have you thought about the ventilation of this cabinet?

    Buy something from Asus with detachable external antennas.
  • #15 16311121
    Rafq25
    Level 16  
    What is Switacha? Everyone can do it, whatever you buy. But the 12 ports are unusual and terribly expensive. Either you buy 16 ports or 8 + 4 from the router.
    16 D-Link Easy Desktop Switch Switch ports
    unfortunately, different ones are out of the budget.
  • #16 16321633
    ogogog
    Level 14  
    I do not know if it is still valid but since the topic is not closed ...

    I would buy Mikrotik, for example, CRS109-8G-1S-2HnD-IN has 8 gigabit ports, WiFi in the N standard, you can connect a spare GSM link on USB or / and a USB disk as a network etc. Since you have a 100Mbit switch, it would not be necessary to buy a switch - put on it devices that do not have or do not require a gigabit link (you save and can add to the router).
    I will not cut anything and I do not know how big the apartment is, but before I try to pull out the antennas, I would check if the cabinet has an impact on the range / quality of the connection (antennas are integrated in the given router model).

    I appreciate Mikrotika for its reliability and safety (including patching security holes) - as is the control panel, I suggest to configure it on a separate vlan.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around setting up a LAN network in an apartment with 12 devices, focusing on selecting an appropriate router and switch. The user has a well-structured network with CAT 6 UTP cables and a patch panel, but is looking to replace an outdated router. They currently have a DSL modem and are considering a router with 4 LAN ports and a 12-port switch, possibly with a built-in access point. Recommendations include the TP-Link Archer C1200 and Mikrotik models, emphasizing the need for detachable antennas due to the router's placement in a 10-inch rack cabinet. Concerns about WiFi interference from neighboring networks, particularly in the crowded 2.4 GHz band, are discussed, with suggestions for using 5 GHz and considering additional solutions like a second router in bridge mode for better coverage.
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