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ATX Power Supply Conversion for 14.4V & 18V Screwdrivers: 350W, 10A on 12V Line Impact

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  • #1 16379107
    zasilaczen
    Level 8  
    Gentlemen, I have read a bit about the conversion of battery powered screwdrivers for electricity from a 12V computer atx power supply.
    And just like with a 14.4V screwdriver, there should be no problems, how will the screwdriver behave rated voltage 18V with such a low voltage from the power supply?
    The power of the power supply is 350W and 10A on the 12V line.

    Moderated By Madrik:

    Let us not confuse the basic concepts of electrical quantities.

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    #2 16379131
    Józef18
    Level 32  
    It may work, but it will be weaker
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  • #3 16379173
    zasilaczen
    Level 8  
    And do I reduce the demand for Volt by unwinding the coils on the screwdriver's motor?
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    #4 16379203
    Stępniak
    Level 13  
    In many computer converters, changing the output voltage value is problematic and requires additional replacement of capacitors when changing up. Now, with converter prices as in https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/250-W-DC-DC-Bo...Modu-Zasilania-Pr-du-Sta-ego/32671862611.html (about $ 4) it is probably not worth combining while maintaining battery power - for example from a car battery?
  • #5 16379211
    kot mirmur
    Level 33  
    You only destroy the motor, it is better not to buy a 12-14V. Of course I mean the winding unwinding.
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    #6 16379237
    radex324
    Level 24  
    I use an old atx power supply for 2 12V and 18V screwdrivers, both work satisfactorily, without any modifications, just something like switching power supply, power line 12V 11A.
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  • #7 16379239
    Madrik
    moderator of Robotics
    zasilaczen wrote:
    Gentlemen, I have read a bit about the conversion of battery powered screwdrivers for electricity from a 12V computer atx power supply.


    And have you read what is the point of such a modification?
    A screwdriver is by definition a portable device, not a network device.
    Adding the cable is the same as chaining the car in a chain so it doesn't drive too far.
    If you want to power the device from the mains, buy a mains screwdriver. You will avoid complications with the power supply and voltage conversion.

    Second, the higher the voltage the better. That is why Chinese is 12-14 V, and brand or professional equipment is 18-24 V, and even more.
    Higher voltage means less current at the same power, less losses, more power at similar current. The lower the current, the longer the use of the battery.

    If you have a screwdriver and the battery has died, and the new one is unprofitable, dispose of this device. There's a brush motor and a bad mechanic that is about to crash too. Such a modification will not provide much longer work, but it will increase the cost of the device, which you will throw away anyway.

    There is no point in reducing the tension in this case.
    Not everything you find on the Internet makes sense and is the right solution.
    Unfortunately, a bad starting material will always produce crap, which you wouldn't do to improve.
  • #8 16380035
    radex324
    Level 24  
    Oh, I see a friend who always buys new equipment, even if he can have it for free ... if you can have something for free or for pennies (power supply PLN 5), why not, I have been using such a screwdriver at home for 2-3 years and it works great ;)
  • #9 16380132
    Jawi_P
    Level 36  
    Madrik wrote:
    A screwdriver is by definition a portable device, not a network device.

    I power the screwdriver myself, the mechanics of which are so durable that it is a pity to dispose of it, and due to its age and the cost of a new battery, it is not worth buying a new one. And the difficulty of buying.
    I power it from the power supply. A very good solution, the equipment got a second life, which the manufacturer does not like.
    And I often use it instead of a drill and as a screwdriver when the cables don't bother me. I will also say that compared to the battery it is very light! For me, all rechargeable batteries should have the option to be powered from the power supply.
    I don't know where this desire to dispose of everything quickly ;)
  • #10 16380183
    zasilaczen
    Level 8  
    If the conversion is cheap and simple why not?
    The 18 battery on the battery should theoretically do better than 14, and what does it look like after powering them from the power supply? Feel the difference? 18 is weaker than 14?
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    #11 16380907
    Jawi_P
    Level 36  
    zasilaczen wrote:
    The 18th battery on the battery should theoretically do better than 14

    Absolutely not.
    The advantage of higher voltage is that the batteries are loaded with lower current, theoretically more will be squeezed out of a less loaded battery. We assume the same engine power, but the supply voltage is not a decisive parameter.
    I suspect that a screwdriver powered by default of 14.4V connected to the ~ 12V power supply will be more efficient than powered by default from 18V connected to the same power supply.
    We assume that the voltage on the power supply during the load will not drop to 8V :)
    Ideally, the power supply should have at least the ~ 10% more than the power supply of the screwdriver requires, because with the currents that flow from the power supply and cable lengths, voltage drops are significant

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of converting battery-powered screwdrivers (14.4V and 18V) to operate using a 12V ATX power supply rated at 350W and 10A. Participants express concerns about performance degradation when using a lower voltage supply, particularly for the 18V model, which may result in weaker operation. Suggestions include avoiding modifications like unwinding motor coils, as this could damage the screwdriver. Some users report successful operation of both 12V and 18V screwdrivers with an ATX power supply without modifications. The conversation highlights the advantages of higher voltage systems, such as reduced current draw and increased efficiency, while also questioning the practicality of such conversions given the nature of screwdrivers as portable devices. The potential for using a power supply instead of batteries is discussed, with some users advocating for the longevity of older tools through this method.
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