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Adjusting Turbine Barbell in VW Golf 2010 1.6 TDI: P0299 Error, Glow Plugs & Dealer-Bought Barbell

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  • #1 16401521
    klmazurko2
    Level 6  
    Hello, I have a problem with the regulation of the "barbell" turbine in Vw Golf 1.6tdi 2010. The old barbell had a damaged bellows and I was wrong: p0299 Turbo / Super Charger Underboost. After replacing with a new one, setting the new one in the same position (counting the scrolls on the banner) when the engine is running, there is an error in the adjustment range (I do not remember the exact code) and burning of the glow of candles. I need a barbell regulation guide, I think there's a problem here ...

    Ps. The barbell is new from the dealer.
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  • #2 16401549
    szymitsu21
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    you set it so that it rests lightly against the stop at rest or apply minimal pressure to the valve spring.
    In golf at rest, he has to put pressure on the spring, just the whole philosophy.
    And how to do something wrong then do not look for a reason in the turbo.
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  • #3 16401555
    klmazurko2
    Level 6  
    It's set exactly as you write. The problem is that each time for the same rotation range shows different recharge values, from 1.1bar to 1.5bar. Any idea? :)

    Added after 5 [minutes]:

    If I remember correctly, the error that now comes out is P2563.

    Added after 35 [seconds]:

    Turbocharger Boost Control Position Sensor Circuit: Implausible Signal
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  • #4 16401578
    sk700
    Level 31  
    szymitsu21 wrote:
    And how to do something wrong then do not look for a reason in the turbo.

    klmazurko2 wrote:
    The problem is that each time for the same rotation range shows different recharge values, from 1.1bar to 1.5bar. Any idea?

    Indicates fuzzy geometry.
  • #5 16401614
    klmazurko2
    Level 6  
    Before I put the bar on, I checked and it looks like I'm working full-length without a hitch. I tried to regulate this bar in 1000 ways and each time the same error and each time different recharges at the same speed ..
  • #6 16401623
    sk700
    Level 31  
    If you have not started the old pear then compare the setting with a caliper, maybe the new one has slightly different dimensions and therefore the setting after the number of turns has not worked. With the rest of the vacuum powered equipment, no problems? Finally, ignite the measuring blocks and adjust the bar on the basis of the set and measured value.
  • #7 16401641
    klmazurko2
    Level 6  
    The barbell setting is 100% identical to the old barbell, I checked. The entire engine package works as it should. I had already set the bar with differences, for example, set pressure 1203mbar, received 1243mbar. On such settings also get the same error ...

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    Every time I am doing adaptations of the turbine in Autocom

    Added after 18 [minutes]:

    I do not know, I think I still have an electric bunch and ecu?
  • #8 16402114
    szymitsu21
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    And the actual pressure equal to the one read? have you measured the actual top-up pressure?
  • #9 16402201
    klmazurko2
    Level 6  
    You mean measuring with a pressure gauge? Not yet. If pomine controlling the turbine and rigidly turbo podepne pod vacu pompe then the turbine is recharging so bellows, setting the bar is probably ok?
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  • #10 16402350
    grala1
    VAG group specialist
    Maybe the problem is in a new pear or wires connected to it.
    Is it a replacement or a stimulant?
    This is a vacuum bulb with a built-in G581 sensor, a blade position sensor.
    In extended measurements, you should find a reading of the value from this sensor.
  • #11 16402372
    kjancz
    Level 12  
    The valve is also adjustable
  • #12 16402619
    klmazurko2
    Level 6  
    Everything looks ok there, the barbell is from the dealer. I think, whether the valve regulating the pressure itself can have something behind your ears, the more so when the engine speed is constant there are different recharging pressures ..
  • #13 16403666
    grala1
    VAG group specialist
    This is for controlling N75, preset and readout pressure. It will show what EDC wants, what it does and what the effects are.
  • #14 16403915
    klmazurko2
    Level 6  
    It is different, sometimes holding the same speed, the set pressure of 1.2bar, received initially 1.1 and comes to 1.5, and ends with 1 bar. I think it will be a broken barbell control valve ... Tomorrow I will check it and let me know
  • #15 17576726
    gvw
    Level 17  
    Buddy, it's true that some time has passed, but maybe you can write how you dealt with this problem.
  • #16 17758285
    matisim
    Level 11  
    I have the same problem, two pears, the computer sees the work and tension of the bar. And the error all the time. I have vcds and I do not know how to do the adaptation ?
  • #17 18003271
    Matid513
    Level 1  
    Hello, I also fought with my but I have polo 09 '1.6 tdi cr 75
    I mentioned the pear was ok but after half a year it loosened the counter and everything got out of place. I wanted to set it up by vcds but I could not find anything in vcds that would help me check the intensity of pear on the underpressure.
    I know that it should be 4.3 V without underpressure and at 0.65-0.85 V. I found values similar in vcds but it was inverted, i.e. about 1V without vacuum and up to 3.8 V and you could not set anything finally I went to a friend who only turbines and directly connected the pear under such a small meter with the ankle (andi) and adjusted it of course, you need a vacum pump, on this device showed correctly, ie the voltage was high around 4V and dropped on the vacuum we did on 4.3-0.75
    After adjusting, I checked how much voltage I have on vcds exactly in the values
    INSTALLATION TURBOCHARGER HIGH PRESSURE
    without underpressure, the voltage is 1.630 V and at 4.200V under vacuum
    And the car goes and everything is ok and for notes as I mentioned the pear, I twisted the pear eye as it was old and it was ok, it did not go wrong
    I hope I could help you cheer!

    Adjusting Turbine Barbell in VW Golf 2010 1.6 TDI: P0299 Error, Glow Plugs & Dealer-Bought Barbell
  • #18 18888084
    altronik
    Level 15  
    Old subject, but I confirm that the values you provided are correct.
    Any others cause error P2563.
    Your post was very helpful for me, it helped me remove the related issue.
    Thanks
    Greetings
  • #19 18891524
    kuras_25
    Level 11  
    Hello. I fought with a turbine pear in polo 1.6 tdi 2010. the diaphragm in the pear was damaged so I ordered a replacement nty after 3 hours of combination with the setting it turned out that in the absence of vacuum the potentiometer showed 5.4va at 0.7 vacuum, 0.7v at vacuum was important and the car flashes, when I set 4.3v without vacuum, it was a fault because with this setting the lower one had 0.47v.
  • #20 20766480
    mati_1107
    Level 14  

    Hello,
    I have a Golf 6 1.6 TDI CAY. I replaced the turbine pear because the old one was crushed (the engine leaned against the shear).
    I replaced it with part number 792430-03. At idle, it pulls the barb but gives the error P2563 - unreliable signal of the turbocharger position sensor, and the barb drops.
    Reading VCDS TURBOSPRESSOR HIGH PRESSURE in the parameters, I have a voltage of about 0.5v without vacuum and about 1.626v when pulled. The meter shows the same at the plug.
    The pear is held on with 3 screws for adjustment, but it is not possible to reach a voltage of 4.200v. I don't understand how to adjust it so that the pear can engage enough to make the voltage rise sufficiently. Below is the error with the frame:

    7286 - Charge pressure regulator position sensor
    P2563 00 [167] - Unreliable signal
    MIL lit - Unconfirmed - Tested since deleting error codes
    Frame frozen
    Error status: 00000001
    Error priority: 2
    Frequency of error: 1
    Mileage: 245125 km
    Date: 2127.14.31
    Time: 16:48:50

    Engine speed: 783.75 /min
    Normalized load value: 13.3%
    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
    Coolant temperature: 53 °C
    Intake air temperature: 18 °C
    Atmospheric pressure: 990 mbar
    Terminal 30 voltage: 13.892 V
    Recall cycle counter after OBD: 40
    Charge pressure setting: feedback-ANG_BPA[0]: 32.501%
    Charge pressure setter control-ANG_SP_BPA[0]: 85.001%
    Turbocharger adjuster-high pressure: control-CTL_LIM_BPA[0]: 84.998%
    Turbocompressor adjuster - high pressure: unconverted voltage thing-value-V_BPA[0]: 1.626 V
    Charge pressure adjuster: open offset-V_BPA_BOL[0]: 0.498 V
    Charge pressure setpoint: closed offset-V_BPA_TOL[0]: 3.501 V
    Turbocharger setpoint-high pressure: status-LF_STATE_BPA_DISP[0]: 76
  • #21 21478960
    teamonekam
    Level 1  
    @mati_1107 Hi, how did you deal with this problem? I have the same thing, turbine 3 weeks after regeneration and I have this error.
  • #22 21478985
    mati_1107
    Level 14  
    In my case, the car was after an accident. The turbine was leaning against the bulkhead wall and there was a shift of the cold side and against the warm side and its range did not correspond.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around issues with the turbine barbell adjustment in a 2010 VW Golf 1.6 TDI, specifically related to the P0299 and P2563 error codes indicating turbo underboost and unreliable turbocharger position sensor signals. The user replaced the damaged barbell with a new one from the dealer but continues to experience inconsistent boost pressure readings and error codes. Various suggestions include checking the dimensions of the new barbell, ensuring proper vacuum operation, and verifying the functionality of the N75 valve and associated wiring. Users also discuss the importance of measuring actual boost pressure and adjusting the turbocharger control using VCDS. The conversation highlights the complexity of turbocharger systems and the need for precise calibration to resolve these issues.
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