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Recording Covers with Behringer Xenyx Q502USB Mixer, Shure PG58 Mic & Syncing with Video Software

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  • #1 16420189
    Kamel12345
    Level 7  
    I have a behringer xenyx q502usb mixer and a shure pg58 xlr microphone. I have been recording covers on youtube for a long time but I would like to finally do it properly, i.e. just like all professional youtubers do, so far I have done it so that the microphone was kept far away from my mouth to collect sound from the speakers. This method is a bit childish and pointless. I want to do it so that I can hold the microphone close to my mouth and at the same time that the foundation is audible, that everything is clocked together.
    From what I realized, you need a program for film processing, I already have and even two (Sony vegas movie studio platinum 12 and camstasia studio 8 and 9).
    First you need to record the vocal track from what I already know and then give the backing track and synchronize both tracks with each other. But I still have a picture and I don't know when to let it go. In camtasia studio 8 there is an option of recording with a webcam with sound but then it will not be applied to the foundation. If someone is polite, please explain step by step what to do in turn. It's not about any complicated ways, it's the simplest method for me to have my voice applied to an instrumental background.
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  • #2 16423644
    Kamel12345
    Level 7  
    Someone will help in this way that I can record a cover using the instrumental track, I know for sure that this can only be done using camstasia studio (I have versions 8 and 9 on my computer). There is an option in this program to immediately record sound and image, and it is saved as a wmv video file, I thought in this way to paste this file into the program's timeline and then paste the mp3 backing and synchronize both tracks but this is probably the wrong way .
    It doesn't need any imaginary effects, etc. It's the simplest method.
  • #3 16424318
    adambyw
    Moderator of Acoustics
    I understand that you are recording both sound and image simultaneously? Often the image is recorded for recorded playback, and the image itself is recorded. Yes, for example, YT records Studio Accantus.

    If you want to simultaneously record audio and video, this is more complicated. Unfortunately, you have a 2 channel (stereo) sound card (mixer). If you don't process the sound on your computer later, you can mix the backing and vocals in the mixer and record the combined file.

    Later, you can do editing in Sony Vegas, for example.
    In these types of programs for non-linear editing, you have the option of inserting several video and audio tracks. In your case, you give one video track and one or more audio tracks. If you do not need a given audio track (p the one recorded by the camera) then you can mute it in the program.
    I don't know the program exactly, but if it can capture (record) video and audio at the same time, it would be best. Then on one audio track you give backing track, on the second you record mono vocal, on the third you record image, and by the way you have everything in sync.
    Asio4all drivers may be useful to support several music cards.
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  • #4 16424407
    Kamel12345
    Level 7  
    So far, I have been recording simultaneously sound and image with the cyberlinkyoucam program, in this program I only selected the line input behringer and that's all, I always had to keep the microphone half a meter away from the mouth and set the mixer sensitivity to almost 3/4 plus the main mix also somewhere around 3/4 of the range, this is a hopeless method, it doesn't use the potential of its own voice or microphone, which is not that bad. Now he wants to record to instrumental chants singing directly into the microphone, this is a dynamic, not omnidirectional microphone and he collects the sound best when held close to the mouth.
    It would be best to immediately record the image and sound, because later by eye matching the image to the sound it may come out poorly.
    I have and Sony Vegas and Camtasia studio on my computer, these programs are very good and in total both very similar but in Vegas it is not possible to record from a webcam and in Camtasia and the rest of the options more or less the same why I chose camtasie.
    Well, in camtasia studio 8 there is the record camera option (in options I can choose the sound from the mixer from my microphone connected via xlr connector) and the image from the camera. After recording, I have a wmv file and I also have it as a path in the program. In camtasia 9 there is no longer this option, they removed it, that's why I downloaded the previous version 8.
    I have installed asio4all drivers.
    If I write the image and sound immediately using this option in camtasia, then I also need to hear the recording during recording, when I release it on the speakers, probably despite the fact that the microphone will be at the very mouth, it will also collect some background, because I always set the speakers when singing very loud.
    In general, I want to record in the following way:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrBXwt7z6eE
    How does this girl hear the foundation? Does it have any loudspeakers from which the backing flies, because acapella is not singing?
  • #5 16424479
    adambyw
    Moderator of Acoustics
    Kamel12345 wrote:
    How does this girl hear the foundation?

    There may be e.g. in-ear headphones (for one ear). Under the hair can not be seen.
    And most likely the sound was recorded earlier and then only the picture was recorded.
    Take a look, for example, here: https://youtu.be/G98yHdyf3Ak?t=679 They explain what you are asking - how they do it.

    If the microphone will pick up the backing from the speakers, the backing will always sound weak. You should use closed / in-ear headphones and record in silence. Alternatively, add the picture later.

    You should mix the backing track either in the mixer, so that you record the backing mixed with the microphone, or have the backing track as a program track and mix it with the second track of the recorded vocal itself. The latter option will also give you the option of additional vocal editing, applying effects (dynamics or reverb), and equalizing the volume with the background.
  • #6 16424530
    Kamel12345
    Level 7  
    Not everyone records with headphones on, e.g. this guy doesn't have them:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dREKkAk628I
    And the recording is professional, you can hear its voice and backing.
    I can and upload a picture later if it is easier but how do I know how to rip it together, I will have to record for the second time.
    I am for the second option, and in the Audacity program it seems to me that I could do it, but there is still a webcam image and here I have a problem how to watch everything together.
    Maybe I will say how I see it now to do it although I suppose I am still thinking wrongly:
    I run the camtasia program, turn on the record camera and record the image from the webcam together with the sound from the microphone mixer, the mp3 backing is playing with the windows media player. I save, put it on the timeline to the program, then I put the mp3 backing on the axis, synchronize and it's ready? I think something is wrong.
    If this is a bad reasoning, I would ask you to write in points 1,2,3 what to do in turn, try and write if it came out what I mean.
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  • #7 16426070
    Shadowix
    Level 31  
    In silence (headphones) you record your vocals, in headphones you have a backing track. You combine the backing track with your vocals in the program. Later, you play this mixed song and sing to the camera "dry", which is a backing track, you sing into the microphone, but do not record sound through the microphone. Later in the movie, you cut out the soundtrack and insert yours. You sync and it's ready :)
  • #8 16426094
    adambyw
    Moderator of Acoustics
    If the listening session from the foundation is not too loud (so that you only hear it) and the microphone close to your mouth can also get a nice effect. In total, this is what concert recordings sound like if there is no admixture of ambient microphones. You can try.
    Kamel12345 wrote:
    I run the camtasia program, turn on the record camera and record the image from the webcam together with the sound from the microphone mixer, the mp3 backing is playing with the windows media player. I save, put it on the timeline to the program, then I put the mp3 backing on the axis, synchronize and it's ready? I think something is wrong.

    You can do it anyway, but see if you can't insert a backing file into camtasia, which would be played by it and recorded to other tracks.
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  • #9 16426306
    Kamel12345
    Level 7  
    Well, you can insert the backing file to play, so I did, turned on the playback, recorded the image and sound via the record camera option in camtasia.
    But I still don't know what to do, I have two files on the timeline, one vmw image with the vocals alone, there is minimal backing from the speakers, but you can hardly hear it so you can skip it for now, and I have a second instrumental backing on the timeline without any vocals , but there is a problem that I thought about for a long time and I can not solve it, how to synchronize these two paths, the method on the eye will not be good, I would have to zoom in and play with the hour with an hour to make it come out, and the effect I suppose will be that the image will be parting with the vocals, i.e. the mouth will be different from singing at the moment and then all the work will be done for nothing.

    Added after 46 [minutes]:

    I was able to record the clip, everything is ok but there is a delay in relation to the backing and the vocals, i.e. the vocals are a little back in relation to the backing, how to eliminate this delay?
    What is the main mix button for? Maybe it needs to be turned on to clear the delay?
    And one more thing is after saving the camtasia clip the image is very small even though in the recording options I have set 640 * 480 which is the max webcam that I use.

    Added after 5 [hours] 49 [minutes]:

    Do you know how to eliminate this delay? Is this something related to the mixer or the program? I don't know, I'm a newbie in this field.
    When it comes to the image and the sound of the vocals, everything is ok, the movements of the lips are the same as the vocals at the moment, i.e. nothing splits. The delay is between the vocals and the backing, it is not my fault that I sang the wrong way, it is something related to the equipment, the configuration way I suspect.

    Added after 15 [hours] 11 [minutes]:

    I watched the behringer xenyx q502usb zero latency trick, but I don't really know how to remove the delay, apparently even in higher class xenyx mixers like e.g. q802usb this also occurs and there is a way to permanently remove it.
  • #10 16432837
    Kamel12345
    Level 7  
    Can anyone help ?

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around recording vocal covers using a Behringer Xenyx Q502USB mixer and a Shure PG58 microphone, with a focus on achieving professional-quality audio and video synchronization. The user seeks advice on how to properly record vocals close to the microphone while ensuring the backing track is audible. Various methods are suggested, including using Camtasia Studio for simultaneous audio and video recording, and the importance of using headphones to prevent bleed from the backing track. Participants discuss the challenges of synchronizing audio and video tracks in editing software like Sony Vegas and Camtasia, emphasizing the need for precise alignment to avoid lip-sync issues. Solutions include recording vocals separately and syncing them with the video later, or mixing tracks in the mixer before recording.
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