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Socket 4-Pin to 5-Pin Device Conversion: Electrician Recommendation or DIY Adapter Solution

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  • #1 16432994
    Micchaleq
    Level 9  
    Good morning,

    Such topics certainly exist already and I am just writing to be sure. Well, at home I have two power sockets, one with flat pins, one with a slant and the other with a round bolt, which is at 4. I plan to buy a device forcibly, but I am thinking about two issues.

    Do you ask an electrician to change the socket or make a 5-pin to 4-prong plug better?

    Socket 4-Pin to 5-Pin Device Conversion: Electrician Recommendation or DIY Adapter Solution

    After the above photograph, I conclude that it is enough to either unplug this N-wire or connect it to PE (the wire from the device).
    All in all, I think so that I do not have this wire in the socket anyway, so changing the socket itself will not help me because this N-plug will either be connected or will not react at all. In addition, in the place where this picture is located (instructions for connecting the welding machine) it is recommended that N do not connect PE. So it turns out that he is free as best as he is.

    I am not an electrician so I am asking for advice only what better to do to be well and safe.
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  • #2 16433117
    leisik
    Level 1  
    Hello.
    The conversion of the 5-pin plug into 4 is not recommended, unless you are sure that this pin is not used in this device - the other way you can, you just do not use the N
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  • #3 16433835
    Krzysztof Reszka
    Moderator of Electrical engineering
    Micchaleq wrote:
    is it better to convert the device's plug from 5 to 4 pins

    The sockets should be replaced with 5 pins.
    Micchaleq wrote:
    Have someone electrician change the socket

    Maybe it will be better. Because you need to replace the cables for the new 5-wire sockets.
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  • #4 16433979
    Micchaleq
    Level 9  
    leisik wrote:

    Friend, can you change the type of plug designed by the machine manufacturer.
    Moderator Krzysztof Reszka


    I do not know if you can or not, but the photo I've put in is from the welder's instruction manual so it seems that the producers allow it. I want to buy a device with a 2.2 or 3kW motor, I do not know if it matters, but it's probably not a great and demanding machine.
  • #5 16434039
    kortyleski
    Level 43  
    It is very large and very demanding. Because it requires a PE contact. . Your installation does not meet this requirement. Installation for processing and you will be able to use the device safely.

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    You have to have a nest for five bolts and paper from who installed it
  • #6 16434048
    Krzysztof Reszka
    Moderator of Electrical engineering
    Micchaleq wrote:
    I do not know if you can or not, but the photo I've inserted is from the welder's manual

    The fact overlooked the information about the photo, he would exchange only this nest for new ones with round pins.
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  • #7 16434433
    Micchaleq
    Level 9  
    Krzysztof Reszka wrote:
    Micchaleq wrote:
    I do not know if you can or not, but the photo I've inserted is from the welder's manual

    The fact overlooked the information about the photo, he would exchange only this nest for new ones with round pins.


    Ie. I have two sockets at home. One 32A and these old flat pins (4) and 16A on round pins (also 4). These 32A and 16A I have no idea why there are other sockets and what are the differences, but I got such information from the previous owner. Nevertheless, on the vertical I heard that we have 25A and in the case I have 20A plugs.

    Okay, what's not going to call the electrician to check this socket and that's it. Nevertheless, it is strange that manufacturers of devices with 3-phase motors allow for connection with PE without N.

    From what I can see, in the current slot I do not have the neutral N (unless I'm wrong).
  • #8 16434468
    niewolno2
    Level 40  
    What's so funny about the fact that producers release devices that do not need the N terminal? In this case, the PE terminal is more required than N. If the control system is 400V then you do not need N.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the conversion of a 5-pin plug to a 4-pin socket for a device with a 2.2 or 3kW motor. Users express concerns about whether to hire an electrician to change the socket or to create a DIY adapter. Recommendations suggest that converting a 5-pin to a 4-pin is not advisable unless the N pin is confirmed to be unused. It is emphasized that the device requires a PE (Protective Earth) connection, and the existing installation may not meet safety standards. Some users note that manufacturers allow devices to operate without the N terminal, indicating that PE is more critical in certain configurations. The need for proper installation and compliance with electrical standards is highlighted.
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