Permanent Four-Wheel Drive Car Models: Audi, Subaru, VW, Torsen, Under 30,000 PLN Options

Hello colleagues, which car models in addition to the brands Audi, Subaru, VW have permanent four-wheel drive in which, for example, torse is used.
Let's focus on cars up to PLN 30,000

It depends on how to understand the "stability" of a 4x4 drive - whether it is a constant split ratio (then also the torse falls off), or that some part of the drive is always transferred to the other axis (this condition is met by new Haldeks). In the latter case, xDrive from BMW, Volvo AWD, drive in Fiat Sedici / Suzuki SX4 or Ford Performance AWD can also be considered a permanent 4x4 drive.
On the other hand, a real, mechanically attached 4x4 drive is not a permanent drive.
The TorSen mechanism was used by Alfa Romeo, e.g. in Alfa 159 / Brera Q4. Whereas VW is rather Haldex. Remember that you have to have a large (and longitudinally positioned) engine for the torse, this drive terribly "muddles" the car.

BMW, Skoda.

Real, rigid 4x4, without control electronics, mechanically implemented and with a 50% -50% permanent distribution in a road car - generalizing only older subaru with manual gearbox (since 2009 even in manual manual electronically controlled plate clutches have appeared, although there are still mechanical - according to old school - depends on version). The power distribution is carried out by means of a viscous coupling. At first glance, you'll discover the small SAWD-Symetrical All Whells Driven stickers. I myself have something like this (Legacy 05) and I say that I drove very different cars with different drives (over 20 years behind the wheel) and what gives Subaru ... there is no comparison with anything else. The difference can be felt even on dry - with strong acceleration, the car sits evenly front / back and pulls forward without any swimming or swaying. On a wet or even more slippery it is already a gigantic gap. Great thing - I don't want to go back to another drive, certainly not to the axle.
Of the minuses - to bury anything with bearings, brakes etc. you need to have all 4 paws raised - you can rotate one wheel by the amount of slack in the drives, i.e. several degrees. Well, under the firehouse you will not do it because you will not confuse it, unless on ice.

I just meant 4x4 which is devoid of electronics based solely on mechanics. And do any modern SUVs have such a drive without electronics and other variations?

Honda CR-V (older models) are typically mechanical.
And in UAZ I have such a wajcha, which fastens the drive to the front.

sanfran wrote:

Honda CR-V (older models) are typically mechanical.
And in UAZ I have such a wajcha, which fastens the drive to the front.

You surprised me with the hondas until I have to check.
And in uaza and similar - the short circuit of both axles is designed to pull you out of the oppression in the field and due to the fact that it usually combines with a blockade of diffs, it does its job better than a subarial solution - by generalizing real terrains in uaz, etc., after connecting the drives, all wheels get identical rotational power and speed. Driving with such a drive on an asphalt road, especially at the speed of the highway ... well, it can't do much. But it'll get you much better out of the mud.
And as for modern SUVs - maybe one of the foresters, certainly Levorgi and XV but not all versions of the chests. Certainly the CVT cases are on the plate clutch and whether all the manuals have a fault - I am not sure.

Yes, older Honda cars have a clutch, because I once wanted to buy. It didn't work out, but I have UAZ.
Check out Suzuki Jimny, this is also a decent roadster.

And as for UAZ, first of all you can not talk about the highway speed, because at 90km / h the geometry of the canvas shed changes and the equipment is getting ready for flight. Or at least makes that impression.
However, 4x4 helps a lot on snowy / icy roads. Even on ** Stomil tires that are sufficient in the field but on wet asphalt it is a crime story.

Opel Frontera https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K7BKsmUVKw went ... in pizza ..

But I saw myself pulling a chain x5 out of the drift through the ditch.

1st generation Freelander (I don't know how in 2) - permanent drive transferred to the rear axle by a viscous coupling.

As for traction, you can pull a lot more
https://youtu.be/BBU1PPCqOhw

sanfran wrote:

Yes, older Honda cars have a clutch, because I once wanted to buy. It didn't work out, but I have UAZ.
Check out Suzuki Jimny, this is also a decent roadster.

And as for UAZ, first of all you can not talk about the highway speed, because at 90km / h the geometry of the canvas shed changes and the equipment is getting ready for flight. Or at least makes that impression.
However, 4x4 helps a lot on snowy / icy roads. Even on ** Stomil tires that are sufficient in the field but on wet asphalt it is a crime story.

Well, even 60 asphalt on an ordinary tire you will not drive with tense drives - with a weak tire it will shoot in corners, with a good car it will split into 2 pieces! (The most common malfunction of viscose is just too strong fastening of F and R after warming up the oil in the drives and the effect is just that it starts to shoot in tight turns on a good surface).
Sometimes I dream of such a gazio or other uazio ... a piece of some wet forest ...
A friend once bought from Honker foresters, threw 5.6l in gasoline from Mustang ... but it went !! It wasn't strong

Audi until about 2004 used quattro on the torsen, with one push of a button you switch off the esp and you have continuous all-wheel drive without getting into a skid, no haldex discs, just a gear system distributing the drive to each wheel. You take corners, curves or a tight left exit under full acceleration, which is impossible with an axle. Haldex and all electronically added drives wear out, which further reduces their efficiency. The passat b5 will also be fitted with such a drive. I have one in my a6 c5 and can't imagine going back to an axle. And in winter it gives you the creeps when you see snow on the road....