Clio III 1.5dci Turbocharger Issue: Loss of Power, Check Injection Message, & OBD2 Analysis

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Gentlemen, I have been struggling with a turbocharger problem for several days. It looks like it stops blowing air altogether; - ///. The problem arose as I rode quietly, about 20 km about 120Km / h, suddenly the car lost a thrust, at first I thought that the engine went out, but no. The message "Check injection" appeared on the board, I slowed down to 80, stopped, I extinguished the engine, I did not jump an error 2 times, but the turbine did not work as it did; - // I checked the snakes, they are soft as they would be did not pump air; - /// I connected OBD2 to check if this pressure sensor dumped the error "check injections" works, but you can see that it works so it probably is ok. Slowly my ideas end, I read somewhere else that it could be some kind of valve security, that it is lifted or jammed, in some emergency mode, but it probably should then throw down some error on the board like the one before with the injection. - //

Film for OBD2 indications

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What Clio III? Enter the engine code or at least the power. And what you did and what a bad preview of parameters, is the error goes to read?

Yes Clio III 1.5DCI 78kW, with this program what I read the parameters, you can also delete errors, but it does not crash any errors so there is no need to delete. I'm gonna make EGR today to dig up to the turbine and look for those snakes on the pear )

The 105 hp engine has a variable geometry that probably burns, or a steering pipe that controls the so-called "pear" is leaking. By the way, I would prefer to drive someone to the real diagnostics dedicated to the equipment, paid for it and did not get used to it.

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103-106KM has variable geometry, I have today this cable to the actuator as it is not this then I will have to look for a good bet that will check it, etc.

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magir wrote:

The 105 hp engine never had variable turbine geometry! Such a turbine had 130 horsepower 1.9 dc

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I dug into this pear at the bottom and it looks like this rubber hose enters it, but how do I hook up these snakes to check this pear? The tube goes in the following way, it comes out of the pears it goes a long way because it is close to the radiator to a button that has one more tube that travels around the throttle with a distributor or some sensor because it also comes with a hose that comes out of the servo, I did some pictures how it looks.

Turbo from above:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/byzz1o8u9jrcpbh/turboup.jpg?dl=0

Pear and tuber coming out of it:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rwyct90gmknn9ck/Gruszka.jpg?dl=0

Picture 3 is something near the throttle and 2 hoses coming into it one of the servo and 2 of the button in front of the radiator:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/a9fpvuenu2eo25e/hmm.jpg?dl=0

Servo and veil coming out to the one in picture 3:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ia75k45q2lclqf/servo.jpg?dl=0

It looks like a button near the radiator and 2 hoses entering it, one of the distribution boxes in the picture No. 3 and 2 g and the turbine:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eccdikioxn7q90o/Przycisk.jpg?dl=0

and it would come out that this button is a vacuum valve:
http://allegro.pl/clio-iii-1-5-dci-zawor-podcisnienia-8200661049-i6560036679.html#thumb/1

I already know what kind of button this is at the front near the radiator what are the 2 snakes coming into it, it is a vacuum valve, that is, it would be enough to fasten the hoses together bypassing the valve to check if the pear works properly ???
http://allegro.pl/clio-iii-1-5-dci-zawor-podcisnienia-8200661049-i6560036679.html

Yes. Check whether you have a vacuum on the hose supplying the valve, and the pear and geometry itself, and check your mouth by sucking in the air.

Picture No. 3 is a vacum pump, i.e. it makes negative pressure presume. So how do I unhook the pear hose then the tubing should suck in the air anyway? in the same way as I would unhook the hose from the vacum pump that enters the valve, it should also suck in?

Yes Yes.
In short, vacum does the negative pressure which is led to the valve and then the valve at idle allows this vacuum to suck the pear, while when the boost pressure created by the turbine starts to be too high (it happens under the load of the engine) this valve cuts off the vacuum from the pear and the spring in the pear retracts the barbell from VTG.

Damn it really turbo died: - // vacuum is normally in the hose from the vacum pump, I also attached both snakes to bypass the vacuum valve and no effect - ((the turbine does not start.) I also tried to blow on the extinguished motorcycle to this hose which goes to pears or there will be some reaction but also nothing, just a shortage of ideas may be blocked or something is left for a bet.

What do you blow in a pear? Like a compressor, you have a pear to change as your mouth should not blow. Check the barbell from the pear or move without much resistance.

lol your lips ) and the bar itself is rather hard to miss because it is hidden between the warm and cold side; - (((as on this photo

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ys0x8o5fry9smve/IMG_0076.JPG?dl=0

Whatever, it can be a screwdriver or some rod. From the top you have access on this the photo it's nice to see.

hmm only this barbell is there in the middle under the oil hose "red arrow"

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ys0x8o5fry9smve/IMG_0076.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/byzz1o8u9jrcpbh/turboup.jpg?dl=0

I will tell you that even after the picture you can see that the barbell is fierce. And right where the arrow should be pushed with a screwdriver.

Tomorrow, I will try to push her down, I understand that with proper action she should give up and go down without much resistance.

Added after 18 [hours] 54 [minutes]:

ok I checked the bar normally goes up the top under the pressure on the hose then it also pumps the air, what's more as the engine is fired at idle gear the bar is pulled down so it looks good, so I think something in the turbine must have gone; - /// since the negative pressure is ok hoses ok valve ok ok sensor; - ///

Hi, remove the turbine inlet line and check that the rotor is loose. (Slight play is acceptable)
From what I read above, the control of the turbine is ok, check the intercooler, maybe on the route some pebble fell and punctured, hence the pressure drop.
Once I had the case that one glow plug was lit, which led the controller to enter emergency mode and the car barely accelerated to 100km / h. - Focus 1.6 TDCI.