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Choosing the Right Power Supply for 6-7 UV 9W Lamps with 15-min Continuous Operation

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  • #1 16533386
    Noostro
    Level 9  
    Hello.

    I would like to build a device to which 6-7 UV lamps will be connected, but I do not know what power supply should be used so that it does not burn and burn the lamps at the same time.

    Below I have written the specifications of both the lamp and the power supply that was originally used to operate one of them. A power supply that would keep 6 such lamps in continuous operation for about 15 minutes would be necessary.

    Bulb electrical characteristics:
    Power: 9W
    Technical lamp power: 8.6 W
    Lamp voltage: 60V
    Lamp current: 0.17 A

    Electrical characteristics of the original single lamp power supply:
    AC 230V 50Hz 50VA

    I do not know if this information will be helpful, but the current power supply that supports one lamp heats up very much after about 15 minutes and the manufacturer recommends to turn it off after a maximum of 20 minutes of work to cool down.

    The power supply supporting 6 such bulbs would work about 15 minutes in a row.

    I would be very grateful for your help.
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  • #2 16533394
    HD-VIDEO
    Level 43  
    The lamp looks like (photo); it has 2 electrodes, it has 4, electrodes like a classic fluorescent lamp
  • #3 16533403
    Noostro
    Level 9  
    I understand that this is about this information:
    G23 base
    2-pin cap information
    2xT12 bubble

    As requested, adds a photo of the bulb  Choosing the Right Power Supply for 6-7 UV 9W Lamps with 15-min Continuous Operation
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  • #4 16533528
    Freddy
    Level 43  
    It is a classic fluorescent lamp with an integrated ignitor. You only need a choke. Of course, the right layout.
    Once again, the 230V 50W power supply supplies one 9W fluorescent lamp and this is the case at the factory?
  • #5 16533545
    Noostro
    Level 9  
    That's exactly right Freddy. The 230V 50W power supply originally powers one 9W fluorescent lamp.
    You need a sailer with parameters that would power 6-7 such lamps. What should I buy?
  • #6 16533574
    Freddy
    Level 43  
    This is something wrong, one 9W fluorescent lamp should have a 9W power supply.
    I have a lamp with two such fluorescent lamps and a 20W power supply - it lights up for several hours non-stop.
    Show a photo of this power supply.
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  • #7 16533579
    jdubowski
    Tube devices specialist
    Noostro wrote:
    I understand that this is about this information:
    G23 base
    2-pin cap information
    2xT12 bubble

    As requested, adds a photo of the bulb


    This is a PL 9W lamp (not a bulb). Lamps of this type are made in two versions - for an inductive ballast (with a starter in the cap) and for an electronic ballast (no starter in the cap, instead of a capacitor).
    An example of a magnetic ballast for two lamps: https://www.tim.pl/statecznik-magnetyczny-do-swietlowek-10-13w-2x7-9w-230v-sb13-cb0945

    If you want to buy, use the keywords in the search engine selected from among:
    ballast ballast 9W PL magnetic inductive electronic price

    Noostro wrote:
    A power supply capable of holding 6 such lamps would be necessary


    If it is to be low-cost, maybe the cheapest one is to buy 2 lamps for curing nail polish - for PLN 60 (+ delivery cost) you have 8 UV lamps with ballasts ;)
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  • #8 16533629
    Noostro
    Level 9  
    This is exactly what the power supply looks like. It took a while to answer because I had to take a photo :)
     Choosing the Right Power Supply for 6-7 UV 9W Lamps with 15-min Continuous Operation

    These nail hardening lamps are not a stupid idea as long as the power supply used in them is enough for me. As for the lamps themselves, the ones I write about are therapeutic (exactly UVB), so the UV nail polish would not be useful for me anyway, but if the power supply was enough, I can try it.
  • #9 16533644
    jdubowski
    Tube devices specialist
    Noostro wrote:
    This is exactly what the power supply looks like.


    And is the lamp connected directly to it? I do not believe something, and I especially believe in these 50W (probably something else in this device is powered)

    Noostro wrote:
    These nail hardening lamps are not a stupid idea as long as the power supply used in them is enough for me.


    Enough - why wouldn't it be enough?
    Noostro wrote:
    As for the lamps themselves, the ones I write about are healing (exactly UVB), so the UV nails from the nails would not be useful for me anyway


    Also UVB for nails, unless yours must have a specific UVB section. Is the manufacturer of these lamps reputable?
  • #10 16533653
    Noostro
    Level 9  
    Jdubowski is exactly the medical lamp (fluorescent) Philips PL-S 9W / 01 / 2P UVB 311nm.

    As for the manufacturer itself, it is so renowned in the medical industry, it is called Kernel.

    The device itself, into which this fluorescent lamp is inserted and connected to this power supply, looks exactly like this:
     Choosing the Right Power Supply for 6-7 UV 9W Lamps with 15-min Continuous Operation  Choosing the Right Power Supply for 6-7 UV 9W Lamps with 15-min Continuous Operation

    jdubowski wrote:
    And is the lamp connected directly to it? I do not believe something, and I especially believe in these 50W (probably something else in this device is powered)

    Apart from a small display whose only function is to measure the time to the end of operation, nothing else is powered there. The manufacturer recommends a one-time operation not longer than 20 minutes due to the possibility of burning the power supply and it is actually hot after 15-20 minutes. Not warm, hot.
    Unfortunately, I do not have any additional data about the power supply, apart from the sticker on it, the photo of which I have inserted. And now I do not know if this lamp (fluorescent) is extremely demanding or if the power supply is really bloody weak.
  • #11 16533689
    jdubowski
    Tube devices specialist
    Noostro wrote:
    And now I do not know if this lamp (fluorescent lamp) is extremely demanding


    It is not - electrically it is an ordinary PL-S 9W.
  • #12 16533696
    Noostro
    Level 9  
    jdubowski wrote:
    the cheapest one is to buy 2 lamps for curing nail polish - for PLN 60 (+ delivery cost) you have 8 UV lamps with ballasts

    so do you think that I should buy two lamps and the power supplies from them are enough for me to keep 6 lamps for a maximum of 15 minutes?
    By the way, thank you very much for your interest and help.
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    #13 16533738
    jdubowski
    Tube devices specialist
    Noostro wrote:
    it is a medical lamp (fluorescent tube) Philips PL-S 9W / 01 / 2P


    From what I browsed for a moment, the above lamps are probably working with induction ballasts, so the solution with ballasts suggested in post # 7 will work 100% (one for two lamps). As for electronic ballasts (and such are the majority of fixtures for hardening "claws") you have to try it yourself if there will be no ignition problems (or google longer and better than me ...)
  • #14 16533763
    Noostro
    Level 9  
    Thanks for checking.
    Will follow your advice. As for the ballasts from post # 7, I already have brightness, one ballast for 2 lamps and it will work, I will remember :)
    I will also buy a nail curing lamp and check with it too. Only write to me if you can, if it works, how many lamps will such a standard "claw" kit hold? 2? 3?
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    #15 16533790
    jdubowski
    Tube devices specialist
    Noostro wrote:
    Only write to me if you can, if it works, how many lamps will such a standard "claw" kit hold? 2? 3?


    Most of the "claw" fittings are for 4 PL-S 9W lamps.
  • #16 16533802
    Noostro
    Level 9  
    Thanks a lot. I will order and check. In some time I will write whether it worked, if not, it will apply to the solution from post # 7.
    Best regards.
  • #17 18288662
    silnik777
    Level 11  
    I bought a UV lamp with four fluorescent lamps to cure the gel on the nails. Unfortunately, the Philips UVB NB lamp does not work. It turns out that the nail lamps use G23 fluorescent lamps without an integrated starter with electronic ballast. Do you know how to convert the system to work?

    Edit: fluorescent lamp blinks / blinks but does not light up.
    Below I am sending a photo of the PCB from the nail lamp.
     Choosing the Right Power Supply for 6-7 UV 9W Lamps with 15-min Continuous Operation

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around selecting an appropriate power supply for operating 6-7 UV lamps, specifically Philips PL-S 9W/01/2P UVB 311nm, which are designed for therapeutic use. The original power supply, rated at 230V 50Hz 50VA, is insufficient for continuous operation, as it overheats after 15-20 minutes. Participants suggest using magnetic ballasts suitable for multiple lamps, with recommendations for purchasing ballasts that can support two lamps each. The conversation also touches on the differences between inductive and electronic ballasts, with a focus on ensuring compatibility with the specific lamp type. The user is advised to explore nail curing lamps as a potential low-cost solution, although they express concerns about the suitability of those lamps for their medical application.
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