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Connecting to Two Networks Simultaneously: i7-4790k, 8GB RAM, GTX970, Windows 10 Pro, LTE Internet

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  • #1 16543123
    Wrathtide
    Level 7  
    Hello all,

    I have the following problem, I have quite good equipment (i7-4790k, 8gb ram, gtx970, windows 10 professional) and I like to play various new games very much. Unfortunately, my internet connection is unfortunately too slow to stream (8mbps download and 0.6mbps upload about) but it is sufficient for online games. I live in a 2-family house and my cousin with whom I have a very good relationship has LTE internet from play. The range for me is ok, the upload of his internet is about 5mbps, unfortunately the problem is the download speed which is limited to 100 GB. From what I know, the transfer speed does not count towards this limit and therefore I have a question whether it is possible to connect to 1 computer somehow 2 routers, one of which would be used for normal work / games / internet browsing and the other (cousin) for transfer data, e.g. on youtube or twitch? Is it possible to use both connections at once (twitch redirection to the second link)? If not, is there any other solution to the problem?

    If you have any idea, please write boldly, I'm familiar with google so if something like that already exists or somehow it's called, give it away with a name, I will find it and see the topic. I also warn you that unfortunately I can't change the internet because I use a lot of data myself, so LTE falls off and the optical fiber will not be there for a long time, besides, the contract ends only in 1.5 years.

    Best regards and thank you in advance for any help
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  • #2 16543132
    speedy9
    Helpful for users
    Generally, something that more or less meets your requirements can be done at the level of the operating system itself. However, you must have two network adapters. Unfortunately, it is not possible to separate outgoing traffic in this way. You can only force the system to send all traffic from / to YouTube or from / to Twitch through a specific network card.
  • #4 16543143
    matek451
    Level 43  
    And what information is this? In Play, the 100GB limit applies to both DL and UL and is counted together. And UL 5Mb / sw Play is a poor result. In Play, you can have 100GB without a contract for PLN 5 / month and if you need more, you use several cards, each cost PLN 5 / month. Of course you need a router with Dual WAN and LTE modem / router. You can now also have 1.41TB without a contract for PLN 100 in Orange. Both Orange and Play have LTE coverage in Bulowice. Play even LTE-A because it uses LTE1800 + 800 aggregation from BTS at Bielska 215, also LTE2100 on it. Orange from this location has LTE800.
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  • #5 16543148
    Wrathtide
    Level 7  
    I haven't specified yet that I have 2 network cards in total. I have a killer e2200 Gigabit Ethernet controller card (connected by a cable - my network) and such a small WIFI 802.11n USB adapter Wireless LAN CARD (WIFI connection - cousin's network)

    Added after 3 [minutes]:

    matek451 wrote:
    And what information is this? In Play, the 100GB limit applies to both DL and UL and is counted together. And UL 5Mb / sw Play is a poor result. In Play, you can have 100GB without a contract for PLN 5 / month and if you need more, you use several cards, each cost PLN 5 / month. Of course you need a router with Dual WAN and LTE modem / router. You can now also have 1.41TB without a contract for PLN 100 in Orange. Both Orange and Play have LTE coverage in Bulowice. Play even LTE-A because it uses LTE1800 + 800 aggregation from BTS at Bielska 215, also LTE2100 on it. Orange from this location has LTE800.


    Information from a cousin (apparently from the contract) she is already from a few years ago so I do not know how it was "then", I would have to have it in my hands. As for Orange, maybe in theory it is good - in practice I had tragedies at home. I took it for a week for testing and it was worse than what I have now. As for the LTE Internet, I do not have my own router and I would prefer to use what I have than to buy new things.
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  • #6 16543264
    matek451
    Level 43  
    You don't have LTE equipment, how do you want to use it? To connect on WIFi on those cards you have on the other side you need an LTE router.
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  • #7 16543329
    Wrathtide
    Level 7  
    matek451 wrote:
    You don't have LTE equipment, how do you want to use it? To connect on WIFi on those cards you have on the other side you need an LTE router.


    As I wrote - I do not have OWN LTE router - I intend to use the LTE Cousin ROUTER via a USB WIFI ADAPTER. My internet connection (my network) is a wifi router (WITHOUT LTE) connected to the ORANGE line.

    In addition, as I wrote - I do not want to set up my own LTE network / buy LTE cards / LTE router. I want to use my network and cousin's network, that's all. All I need is information whether it can be done and, if necessary, HOW. If anyone knows, I will be grateful for any links / information.

    Added after 5 [minutes]:

    speedy9 wrote:
    Generally, something that more or less meets your requirements can be done at the level of the operating system itself. However, you must have two network adapters. Unfortunately, it is not possible to separate outgoing traffic in this way. You can only force the system to send all traffic from / to YouTube or from / to Twitch through a specific network card.
    and this is what I would like - would you give some link as easily understood by a layman? Ew how can I find something like that? Or I would like a description if you had a moment.
  • #8 16543408
    matek451
    Level 43  
    And the cousin is aware that if you start using his LTE it is 100GB, which is at full speed may not be enough for you ?. After this limit, Play will cut to DL up to 1Mb / s and UL to 384Kb / s. Contrary to what he claims, DLi UL is always included in the limit for mobile operators, you will send several large files and stay with slow internet. And the next thing is do you have the right level of signal from your LTE router? After WiFi, the speeds decrease with the range, with a poor signal there are problems with a stable connection.
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  • #9 16543618
    Wrathtide
    Level 7  
    matek451 wrote:
    And the cousin is aware that if you start using his LTE it is 100GB, which is at full speed may not be enough for you ?. After this limit, Play will cut to DL up to 1Mb / s and UL to 384Kb / s. Contrary to what he claims, DLi UL is always included in the limit for mobile operators, you will send several large files and stay with slow internet. And the next thing is do you have the right level of signal from your LTE router? After WiFi, the speeds decrease with the range, with a poor signal there are problems with a stable connection.


    Is aware and range is appropriate. I made sure of it myself. But I would prefer that instead of discussing family and hardware issues, we discuss the software issue with which I have a problem :)

    Added after 10 [minutes]:

    bogiebog wrote:
    ForceBindIP - two Internet links - how to assign a link to the application / program.
    https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic1815692.html#10690887


    I tried - unfortunately it doesn't work on windows 10: /
  • #10 16543907
    bogiebog
    Level 43  
    Wrathtide wrote:
    I tried - unfortunately it doesn't work on windows 10: /

    Have you tried as an administrator? "run as administrator"
  • #11 16544202
    speedy9
    Helpful for users
    Wrathtide wrote:
    and this is what I would like - would you give some link as easily understood by a layman? Ew how can I find something like that? Or I would like a description if you had a moment.

    Here's how to add static routing: http://thesolving.com/server-room/how-to-conf...-to-route-traffic-through-a-specific-gateway/
    The problem with this solution is to correctly specify the range of IP addresses, e.g. for YouTube or Twitch.
  • #12 16544955
    Wrathtide
    Level 7  
    bogiebog wrote:
    Wrathtide wrote:
    I tried - unfortunately it doesn't work on windows 10: /

    Have you tried as an administrator? "run as administrator"


    OK, I will write everything because maybe I am doing something wrong. So:
    Connecting to Two Networks Simultaneously: i7-4790k, 8GB RAM, GTX970, Windows 10 Pro, LTE Internet - you can see the folder and administrator permissions (I tried both 32 and 64 bit versions)

    Connecting to Two Networks Simultaneously: i7-4790k, 8GB RAM, GTX970, Windows 10 Pro, LTE Internet here is LTE cousin internet (the gateway to which I want to redirect the application)

    Connecting to Two Networks Simultaneously: i7-4790k, 8GB RAM, GTX970, Windows 10 Pro, LTE Internet - based on this program, I determined to my network card which geforce experience application sends the image to YT. It is clear that the upload speed is high (sorting from the highest).

    And here is the code for the BAT file in ForceBindIP
    ForceBindIP -i 192.168.137.1 "C: \ Program Files \ NVIDIA Corporation \ ShadowPlay \ nvspcaps64.exe"

    After running the bat file, nothing changes and the network controller (LAN) continues to record data transmission (application: is it not working?). Even after restarting the application and stream.

    Maybe I'm doing something wrong? I am waiting for any corrections / suggestions

    Ultimately, I would like it to work with geforce experience and youtube (although twitch can also be).
    Added after 1 [hours] 1 [minutes]:
    speedy9 wrote:
    Wrathtide wrote:
    and this is what I would like - would you give some link as easily understood by a layman? Ew how can I find something like that? Or I would like a description if you had a moment.

    Here's how to add static routing: http://thesolving.com/server-room/how-to-conf...-to-route-traffic-through-a-specific-gateway/
    The problem with this solution is to correctly specify the range of IP addresses, e.g. for YouTube or Twitch.


    From what I read it is redirecting the entire internet to a specific link and I only care about 1 application (the rest is to remain on the previous internet). But I can be wrong - I just understood this article.

    There is a way / trick to redirect this through ports, blocking applications in the network (I do not know, just such an idea) or an additional router (on the basis of some gateways for ports)?
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  • #13 16545116
    bogiebog
    Level 43  
    To test instead of nvspcaps64.exe use firefox.exe and check if it works.
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  • #14 16545127
    Wrathtide
    Level 7  
    bogiebog wrote:
    To test instead of nvspcaps64.exe use firefox.exe and check if it works.


    I don't use firefox only chroma, but I think it doesn't make much difference. Unfortunately it does not work. Even to be sure, I blocked it in a network (LAN). You can see that the wifi will not vibrate. Connecting to Two Networks Simultaneously: i7-4790k, 8GB RAM, GTX970, Windows 10 Pro, LTE Internet

    I also turned off BItDefender and all firewalls (bitdefender + windows) to be sure - it did nothing.
  • #15 16545129
    bogiebog
    Level 43  
    > ForceBindIP -i 192.168.137.1 "C: \ Program Files \ NVIDIA Corporation \ ShadowPlay \ nvspcaps64.exe"

    you have to give the computer IP to forcebindip, not the ip router.
  • #16 16545131
    Wrathtide
    Level 7  
    bogiebog wrote:
    > ForceBindIP -i 192.168.137.1 "C: \ Program Files \ NVIDIA Corporation \ ShadowPlay \ nvspcaps64.exe"

    you have to give the computer IP to forcebindip, not the ip router.


    And not the gateway (router) through which the application is to connect?
  • #17 16545140
    bogiebog
    Level 43  
    Wrathtide wrote:
    And not the gateway (router) through which the application is to connect?


    Yeah, until you theoretically understand it, you are not free to try other ip addresses, no one knows what will happen to your computer.

    For theoretical considerations, I refer to the author's website.
  • #18 16545145
    Wrathtide
    Level 7  
    bogiebog wrote:
    Wrathtide wrote:
    And not the gateway (router) through which the application is to connect?


    Yeah, until you theoretically understand it, you are not free to try other ip addresses, no one knows what will happen to your computer.

    For theoretical considerations, I refer to the author's website.


    To be sure I tried on chrome - also without results on my computer's ip, i.e. 192.168.137.211
    Added after 4 [minutes]:
    Hmm, and would it make sense to connect an additional router to the network that would separate the connection depending on the application? Something like a virtual server? I have at home a WiFi amplifier from ASUSA RP12 or something like that and with 2 other routers that dust in the attic
  • #19 16545160
    bogiebog
    Level 43  
    For me windows disconnects WIFI as I plug in a lan.

    Look at the network connections panel when you connect the lan.

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    Only when I connect to the same network (router) after wifi and lan.
  • #20 16546008
    speedy9
    Helpful for users
    Wrathtide wrote:
    From what I read it is redirecting the entire internet to a specific link and I only care about 1 application (the rest is to remain on the previous internet). But I can be wrong - I just understood this article.

    No, you are redirecting you to specific ranges of IP addresses to a specific network connection, e.g.
    route -p add 199.223.232.0 MASK 255.255.248.0 10.220.33.15 IF 2

    It will route traffic to IP from the first range below to the second network interface via gateway 10.220.33.15.
    YouTube IP ranges. You need to designate network masks with a calculator, e.g. http://jodies.de/ipcalc

    199.223.232.0 - 199.223.239.255
    207.223.160.0 - 207.223.175.255
    208.65.152.0 - 208.65.155.255
    208.117.224.0 - 208.117.255.255
    209.85.128.0 - 209.85.255.255
    216.58.192.0 - 216.58.223.255
    216.239.32.0 - 216.239.63.255

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the challenge of connecting to two networks simultaneously using a computer with an i7-4790k processor, 8GB RAM, and a GTX970 graphics card running Windows 10 Pro. The user seeks to utilize their cousin's LTE internet for data transfer while maintaining their own slower internet connection for gaming and browsing. Responses indicate that while it is possible to route specific application traffic through different network adapters using tools like ForceBindIP, the user must have two network adapters and proper configuration. Concerns are raised about the LTE data cap and the need for a router with Dual WAN capabilities. Suggestions include using static routing to direct traffic based on IP ranges and testing configurations with different applications. The user expresses a desire for straightforward guidance on implementing these solutions without investing in new hardware.
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