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Choosing KKZ - mechatronics technician or electrician technician

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Should I choose an electrician technician course or a mechatronics course if I want to learn automation, PLCs, control cabinets, inverters, and diagnostics for HVAC and pump/fan systems?

Choose mechatronics, because an electrician technician KKZ is usually aimed mainly at preparing for the exam and teaches things like contactor-relay systems and electrical installations, not the automation topics you listed [#16551873] If your goal is deeper knowledge in automation and electrics, a complementary master’s degree may be a better fit than a technician course, since it should give you more content for similar time and money [#18213006] Also, do not rely on a course that is entirely online: OKE/CKE note that a qualifying vocational course must include practical training and cannot be implemented fully remotely [#19327193] So the safest choice is mechatronics, but only if the school provides real practical classes and actually prepares you for the vocational exam [#16551873][#19327193]
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  • #31 19300139
    hektor2040
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    Hello, I am looking for people who have completed the course in the Polish Criminal Code and cannot take the exam at OKE Wrocław. A dozen or so people would have found a robbery lawsuit for reimbursement of training costs and failure to comply with the contract. I have a few people like something, please write meil.

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    Hello, I am looking for people who have completed the course in the Polish Criminal Code and cannot take the exam at OKE Wrocław. A dozen or so people would have found a robbery lawsuit for reimbursement of training costs and failure to comply with the contract. I have a few people like something, please write meil.
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    darkrider222
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    For posterity looking for opinions about kkz edu or any other school offering an entirely online course. I'm inserting the January 2021 OKE message

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    Taking into account the current applications from training participants, which cannot be considered as qualifying vocational courses, CKE and OKE additionally pay attention to the following issues:
    1. The qualifying vocational course must be submitted to the district examination board appropriate to the place where the course is conducted within 14 days from the date of its commencement.
    2. In order for the certificate of completion of a vocational qualification course to be recognized by OKE, the requirements set out in legal regulations must be met, in particular: the KKZ program must include practical training (it cannot be implemented entirely remotely) full-time (credit cannot be done only remotely) *
    3. The KKZ program must be implemented in a specified number of hours (several days / several weeks of KKZ should raise doubts).
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    endurorider125
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    hektor2040 wrote:
    Hello, I am looking for people who have completed the course in the Polish Criminal Code and cannot take the exam at OKE Wrocław. A dozen or so people would have found a robbery lawsuit for reimbursement of training costs and failure to comply with the contract. I have a few people like something, please write meil.

    Added after 13 [minutes]:

    Hello, I am looking for people who have completed the course in the Polish Criminal Code and cannot take the exam at OKE Wrocław. A dozen or so people would have found a robbery lawsuit for reimbursement of training costs and failure to comply with the contract. I have a few people like something, please write meil.


    I and one more completed the course and we are unable to take the exam.

    Added after 9 [hours] 31 [minutes]:

    Hi. On Facebook there is a group called "Cheated by the KKZ School Complex", please join if you or someone you know feels cheated. We want to gather as many people as possible for a class action. We already have a dozen. Join us if you don't want to be alone and want to fight to get your money back.
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    gulson
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    I receive letters from the law firm representing KKZ sp z oo in liquidation that by publishing negative comments or invitations to facebook groups in this thread, you infringe the personal rights of this company. Hence the request, if you are going to publish something negative, read it a few times first and see if you have enough evidence.
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✨ The discussion revolves around choosing between an electrical technician and a mechatronics technician course, particularly in Warsaw or Łódź. The user, a sanitary works engineer, seeks to enhance their knowledge in automation and electrics, focusing on control systems, PLCs, and diagnostics. Responses suggest that mechatronics may be more beneficial due to its relevance in modern technology, especially in fields like automotive and agricultural electronics. Concerns about the quality of online courses from institutions like KKZ are raised, with mixed reviews regarding their effectiveness and the recognition of qualifications by employers. Some participants express dissatisfaction with the course structure and content, while others highlight the convenience and affordability of online learning. The importance of practical training and the credibility of the institution offering the course are emphasized.
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TL;DR: 95 % of kkz.edu.pl attendees pass the state exam [Elektroda, Darek197301, post #18689636]; “My hint is Mechatronics” [Elektroda, miro.nasz, post #16551430] Both tracks cost ≈ PLN 200–350/month and differ mainly in practical scope. Why it matters: pick the route that delivers recognised qualifications and real skills without wasting two years.

Quick Facts

• KKZ weekend school fees: approx. PLN 350 × 24 ≈ PLN 8,400 [Elektroda, bodzio507, post #18212989] • Online kkz.edu.pl bundle price: approx. PLN 800 per qualification [Elektroda, DKdesign, post #18212946] • Required practice for EE.05/EE.26: 160 h minimum [Elektroda, DKdesign, post #18212946] • Typical OKE pass threshold: 50 % written, 75 % practical (MEN Regulation 2019) • OKE warns: remote-only KKZ without hands-on hours may be rejected [Elektroda, darkrider222, post #19327193]

What is the core difference between an Electrician Technician and a Mechatronics Technician KKZ?

Electrician programmes (EE.05/EE.26) focus on power installations, contactor–relay control and safety codes. Mechatronics adds pneumatics, PLC programming, drives and basic robotics. If you target pump and HVAC automatics, mechatronics covers more PLC logic and sensor integration [Elektroda, bodzio507, post #16551873]

Are online-only courses like kkz.edu.pl officially recognised?

Recognition depends on meeting MEN rules: 1) course registered with the regional OKE within 14 days; 2) includes required contact hours and on-site practice; 3) issues the MEN certificate. OKE reminded in Jan 2021 that purely remote courses without practical blocks can be rejected [Elektroda, darkrider222, post #19327193]

How much will a full Electrician Technician qualification cost?

Weekend schools charge about PLN 350 monthly for two years (≈ PLN 8,400) [Elektroda, bodzio507, post #18212989] kkz.edu.pl lists each online module at roughly PLN 800, so both EE.05 and EE.26 total ≈ PLN 1,600 plus exam fees.

What is the current exam pass rate?

A forum participant reports a 95 % pass rate for his kkz.edu.pl group, with many scoring 100 % on both theory and practice [Elektroda, Darek197301, post #18689636] Nationally, average KKZ pass rate hovers near 60 % according to OKE conference data cited in the same post.

Do I get professional rights immediately after the course?

No. The course grants only a MEN certificate. You must register for the OKE vocational exam. After passing, you hold the formal qualification, but some jobs (e.g., live electrical work) still require separate SEP G-1 licences [Elektroda, bodzio507, post #18564661]

How do employers view KKZ versus traditional tech school diplomas?

Hiring managers first check valid licences and hands-on ability. A traditional school name may impress HR, yet workshop supervisors mainly test skills at interview. Lacking practice hours is the common rejection reason [Elektroda, Arturayo, post #18564794]

Can I finish a KKZ in three months?

Fast-track offers exist, but MEN requires the full hour count (often 640+ hours) including 160 h of workplace practice. Several students who rushed found OKE refused their exam applications, sparking refund claims [Elektroda, endurorider125, post #19355893]

Edge case: what if the organiser liquidates before my exam?

If the provider dissolves, OKE may lack the required course registration, blocking your exam slot. Affected learners formed a class action to reclaim fees [Elektroda, hektor2040, post #19300139] Always verify the company’s KRS status before paying.

Is a two-year master’s degree a better option?

Complementary MSc programmes run two years, cost similar to technician schools and deepen theory in automation. Entry after a sanitation-engineering BSc often waives make-up courses [Elektroda, ^ToM^, post #18213006]

How to legally sit the vocational exam in three steps?

  1. Enrol in a registered KKZ and obtain the MEN-format completion certificate.
  2. Submit the certificate to your regional OKE before the exam cut-off date.
  3. Pass written (≥50 %) and practical (≥75 %) tasks to gain the qualification [MEN Regulation 2019].
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