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Creating a PCB with HDMI Connectors for Black Screen Effect: Which Pins to Break?

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  • #1 16551449
    Pawel_1985
    Level 4  
    Hello!

    Below is a list of HDMI connectors.

    Generally, I would like to make a printed circuit board on which there would be two HDMI connectors (pin in pin), and thanks to which after giving the appropriate control signal I would get the "black screen" effect.

    The question is, which pins would I have to break (e.g. a small mosfet) so that the TV screen was only a black picture without sound?

    The black image can very well be understood as an image with information about the lack of a signal.

    Will 5 V (18 pin) signal disconnection get this effect?

    Creating a PCB with HDMI Connectors for Black Screen Effect: Which Pins to Break?
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  • #2 16551466
    djlukas
    Level 27  
    To detect the connector, use pin 19 Hot plug detect.
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    #3 16551467
    A.Gieronimo
    Level 35  
    5V can be used by input circuits but it doesn't have to be in inches, so the effect will depend on the equipment.
    The surest effect will be to cut the TMDS Clock.
    Someone will write that hotplug, but it is just as sure as 5V, one manufacturer will use and another oil.
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  • #4 16551532
    Pawel_1985
    Level 4  
    Thanks for the answers.

    And I have a question, can I use these 5 V to power electronics? Of course, the power consumption of this line would be in the order of a few miles amperes.

    And the TMDS Clock signal (two lines + and -), how do you best disconnect? Which solution would be the best: a transistor, a bistable relay or a multiplexer?
  • #5 16551850
    A.Gieronimo
    Level 35  
    A multiplexer, unless you mean a buffer rather, would be the safest.
    This 5V output has a maximum load of 50mA and it is not known how much the receiver will take. Generally, you can use.
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  • #6 17028711
    Artek_łódź
    Level 17  
    I am sorry for connecting to the subject but I have a similar question with the fact that from the HDMI socket I would like to take some power to power one or two fans to cool the TV case. It's quite old and there is no USB in it, so can I make a cable with a plug and only two cables connected (17,18). Will this solution work and is it safe? The fans are on 12V DC but it suits me that it would work on 5V (i.e. half slower). They charge a maximum of 0.12A each.
    Thank you for your answer.
  • #7 17028944
    zster

    Level 28  
    Artek_łódź wrote:
    I am sorry for connecting to the subject but I have a similar question with the fact that from the HDMI socket I would like to take some power to power one or two fans to cool the TV case. It's quite old and there is no USB in it, so can I make a cable with a plug and only two cables connected (17,18). Will this solution work and is it safe? The fans are on 12V DC but it suits me that it would work on 5V (i.e. half slower). They charge a maximum of 0.12A each.
    Thank you for your answer.


    Have you read the whole topic? It clearly says that the power supply in HDMI has a capacity of 50mA max and you want to connect two 120mA fans, i.e. 240mA in total ...
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  • #8 17029107
    Artek_łódź
    Level 17  
    Now I see.
    Somehow I miss this post :oops: :D
    Sorry and thanks!
  • #9 17029661
    zster

    Level 28  
    It happens ;)
    The only solution is to find a 5V or 12V power supply inside the TV and connect the fans there. Or an external power supply and a small relay or circuit with MOSFET transistor (so-called logic level MOSFET) connected from the HDMI connector - this way the fans will start only when the TV is on.
  • #10 17030355
    Artek_łódź
    Level 17  
    Very cool ideas!
    It would be ideal to power them from the inside of the TV, but I honestly do not know where to connect it securely. TV to Funai LC5-D32BB / 1. So far I have connected a 5V, 0.5A power supply and they work super quietly and at the same time efficiently. I have a TV connected so that they turn on and off the same way. I drilled holes in the casing and screwed the fans together with the protective grilles. One cools the transformer, rectifier diodes and 2SK3799 hot transistor on the inverter board, while the other cools the power supply itself. The effect is really great.
  • #11 17529204
    Pawel_1985
    Level 4  
    A.Gieronimo wrote:
    A multiplexer, unless you mean a buffer rather, would be the safest.
    This 5V output has a maximum load of 50mA and it is not known how much the receiver will take. Generally, you can use.


    The subject is old, but it's back in favor, I'm preparing a plate and I would like to make sure that the buffers selected are adequate. The search criteria are a non-inverting, three-state buffer (one with an additional foot, setting the output to a high impedance state).
    The choice fell on such systems: 74AHC2G125.74LVC1G125GV.125

    Another issue is the frequency of these systems. How often does the TDMS line work so as to select the best buffer in terms of propagation times of signal switching.

    I would like to connect both TMDS Clock signals via buffers.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around creating a printed circuit board (PCB) with two HDMI connectors to achieve a "black screen" effect by breaking specific pins. Key suggestions include using pin 19 (Hot Plug Detect) and cutting the TMDS Clock signal for a reliable outcome. The feasibility of using the 5V signal (pin 18) for powering electronics is also explored, with caution regarding the maximum load of 50mA. Various methods for disconnecting the TMDS Clock signal are discussed, including the use of transistors, bistable relays, or multiplexers, with multiplexers being recommended for safety. Additionally, a user inquires about powering fans from the HDMI connector, leading to discussions about safe power sourcing and the use of relays or MOSFETs. The conversation also touches on selecting appropriate buffers for the TMDS signals, specifically mentioning the 74AHC2G125 and 74LVC1G125GV models.
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