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No Electricity in Kitchen Sockets on Refrigerator Side: Identifying Cause & Solution

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  • #31 16715613
    mawerix123
    Level 39  
    kebi88 wrote:
    I have a question about connecting to electricity. Unfortunately, it is old construction, and there are two wires, no grounding.


    Basic question, there were any bridges between those old left and right sockets :?:
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  • #32 16715652
    kebi88
    Level 7  
    earlier it was done so that the neutral wire went from the terminal to the pin ...
  • #33 16715660
    tzok
    Moderator of Cars
    From what you can see in the photos, there were two separate sockets, in separate boxes ...
  • #34 16715664
    kebi88
    Level 7  
    No Electricity in Kitchen Sockets on Refrigerator Side: Identifying Cause & Solution No Electricity in Kitchen Sockets on Refrigerator Side: Identifying Cause & Solution That's right, only at one point one socket burned out, and it had to be replaced ... so I want to replace two sockets ...
    Added after 8 [minutes]:

    how well i understand so i have to do?
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  • #35 16715696
    kortyleski
    Level 43  
    So it's not a loop after all, but two somehow separate circuits. Without knowing at least a part of the installation diagram, you cannot advise anything sensible. Except for mounting two separate sockets as it was done. The mere introduction of two unknown circuits into one gear housing can create a nice face for someone who will later rummage there.
  • #36 16715728
    mawerix123
    Level 39  
    kebi88 wrote:
    earlier it was done so that the neutral wire went from the terminal to the pin ...


    So there can be no bridges between the sockets, as some suggest, you should not create a double socket and two single ones as it was so far.

    kebi88 wrote:
    so I want to replace two sockets ...


    Then replace two sockets, not one double.

    lisiorrr333 wrote:
    The sockets are in a loop from here, four wires


    lisiorrr333 wrote:
    You need to connect the wires by color to each other and to the socket to keep the loop


    melpin wrote:
    I agree with my friend 100%


    And I do not agree

    lisiorrr333 wrote:
    It will be fine, this is how I have all the sockets connected at home.


    And you are WRONG, do not suggest such a connection to the author.

    lisiorrr333 wrote:
    And in the previous one you had the wrong thing that you wanted to remove the two wires connecting the two parts of the socket to each other. The socket might work if the loop is properly powered from both ends, but the loop itself would lose continuity.


    Wrong suggestion.

    lisiorrr333 wrote:
    And that's the point, not to disconnect it anywhere, because then each socket gets power from both sides, with two independent 2x2.5mm cables. This gives greater reliability and safety, and the short circuit loop impedance in the circuit is reduced


    The current is the shortest path in which the impedance will drop :?:
  • #37 16715771
    kebi88
    Level 7  
    Gentlemen ... you could write a dissertation on this topic .... neutral to Bolec and from him to the terminal. Phase to clamp. I remove these factory cables from the new socket. Takkk ??
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  • #38 16715798
    mawerix123
    Level 39  
    kebi88 wrote:
    I remove these factory cables from the new socket. Takkk ??


    No, replace this double socket with two single ones and connect the neutral wire through the pin clamp as you had before without cutting the vein to the second clamp.

    No Electricity in Kitchen Sockets on Refrigerator Side: Identifying Cause & Solution
  • #39 16715805
    kebi88
    Level 7  
    thanks for the answer ... unfortunately it seemed strange to me and I shortened it a bit ... so I have to give a separate wire for this ...

    so the cable from the wall connected to the pin, and from it will go a new wire to the terminal ...
  • #40 16716209
    kortyleski
    Level 43  
    Without recognizing the installation TWO SINGLE sockets!
  • #41 16716420
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #42 16716466
    mawerix123
    Level 39  
    lisiorrr333 wrote:
    The question was whether these two sockets were connected with each other with two additional wires,


    They were not connected, do not write nonsense and do not suggest any bridges if you do not know a specific installation, if someone has it does not mean that it is everywhere.

    lisiorrr333 wrote:
    With all due respect, I think I know better how to install in my own apartment, right?


    And if I know there whether you know or not, let me just connect the protective pins in the sockets well.
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  • #43 16716521
    Akrzy74
    Rest in Peace
    Further discussion is unnecessary. A rational decision can only be made when you have a sufficient amount of information.
  • #44 16717299
    kortyleski
    Level 43  
    That is visual inspection on the spot. Akrzy shut up please. Because here you need an electrician, not a forum

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a user experiencing a complete lack of voltage in kitchen sockets on the refrigerator side, while the opposite side remains functional. Initial troubleshooting steps included checking the switchboard and fuses, which were confirmed to be operational. Suggestions included examining the wiring connections, particularly around the refrigerator and junction boxes, as well as ensuring that circuit breakers were properly reset. The user later discovered that a phase cable had become slightly disconnected due to recent work on a socket, which was the root cause of the issue. The conversation also touched on the importance of proper wiring practices and the potential need for professional assistance in complex electrical issues.
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