No Electricity in Kitchen Sockets on Refrigerator Side: Identifying Cause & Solution

Question

Hello I have an unusual problem, but I am asking for help. In the kitchen I have electric sockets on both sides of the wall. One wall is a stove, a dishwasher ... the other wall is a fridge and a kettle. I don't know what happened, but on the side where the refrigerator is, there is no...

karolark · Accepted Answer

It is very likely that the power to the sockets in the kitchen goes in a loop so I would start checking the connections with the refrigerator

kleopatra · Accepted Answer

The reason for the lack of power may also be a burned-out wire in the protection of this circuit, I mean the automatic fuse, also check the junction boxes, i.e. unscrewed terminals, burned-up terminals. This circuit is not difficult to repair, it is necessary to check the continuity of the socket circuit from the fuse to the sockets.

snakess · Accepted Answer

1 In that case, check the socket that you liquidated - something may have been disconnected, as well as the others without voltage. 2 Red means that the fuse is on, i.e. it is ok theoretically.

mawerix123 · Answer

You checked the security in the switchboard

kokapetyl · Answer

Perhaps it is appropriate to check the condition of the fuses on the switchboard.

kebi88 · Answer

I forgot to write it, I checked it like that, all fuses are on, unless I had to check otherwise?

kokapetyl · Answer

Probably my friend also forgot about other things. How is the installation made, how many and what circuits are separated for this kitchen? However, if a colleague has checked the security status and they are OK, there is no need for measurements without measurements, and here you need a specialist.

mawerix123 · Answer

Sometimes it happens that the switch will work and the toggle will not drop, so it is worth checking if all the switches have control windows in the same color You can also turn off all circuit breakers and turn them on again ..... This is how the circuit breakers in the switchgear are not described, it is not known who is responsible for what.

kokapetyl · Answer

It is not difficult for a specialist, for an outsider, it is already a difficult task and as I wrote earlier, it is probably impossible to do without a specialist.

kebi88 · Answer

thank you gentlemen for your help, the only forum I have met where there are people willing to help.

I will look tomorrow

I will start by checking
1). boxes, where all the cables come out of the kitchen
2). Unscrew the sockets and reconnect.
3). Possibly a fuse ... probably so much from my knowledge ... if it does not help, I will take a specialist ... unless you have any more ideas, write to us, thank you in advance!

Added after 13 [hours] 42 [minutes]:
Ok, I checked it quickly and so far the following conclusions are:

1. I do not have electricity in the room next to the kitchen (a few days earlier I liquidated the socket in it, i.e. I plugged the cables on the scale and plugged it with the lid, but the electricity was still in the whole apartment)
2. One of the Bemko fuses has a red inspection window, the rest of the fuses do not have a window ... the question is does the red color mean that it is damaged?

tzok · Answer

How many fuses do you have in total in the switchboard? One, three or more?

kebi88 · Answer

thanks for the answer.

Tomorrow I will look for the exact reason, I had to get the key, because I want to disconnect the electricity in the cage ...

I have a total of 4 fuses, of which only one has this red indicator, the others do not.

kozi966 · Answer

Are all fuses on the cage on? Because they could also work ...

Brivido · Answer

If everything is on then check to see if you have phase from these sockets.

kebi88 · Answer

Hello

thank you for your help, the problem was in the socket, which I had liquidated a few days earlier, it turned out that one phase cable was a bit unplugged from the balance .. I don't know why it happened ... but the problem was solved.

Thank you and best regards

I consider the topic closed

zbich70 · Answer

And I know - from lack of experience. The scales are pleasant to assemble, but may cause some surprises. The colleague did not check that the cable was properly seated in the connector. It was enough to isolate the vein too short and not to feel whether the connector caught well. And / or used the cheapest couplings. That's the whole philosophy.

kebi88 · Answer

I do not create a new post, I have a question regarding the power connection. Unfortunately, it is old construction, and there are two wires, no grounding.

I am asking for advice, I am going to remove two factory wires (marked with red crosses, and plug the wires from the wall into these places.

Could this be so?

snakess · Answer

It all depends on the type of network - hence the possibility of such a connection.
Check it, for example, on the contract with the energy supplier.
There is no third protective conductor in the whole apartment? It is worth checking the kitchen and bathroom.

Turysta_ · Answer

I take it that you want to have two sockets on two separate circuits? Doesn't it matter?

kebi88 · Answer

There is no protective conductor anywhere ... I want electricity in both sockets ... and I have 2x neutral and 2x phase wire for that ...

kokapetyl · Answer

Regardless of the type of network, the connection shown in the picture is not correct. Such a solution is unacceptable, two separate power circuits cannot be combined in one box, housing, etc. To the author, if you care about grounding, and there is no such conductor (PE), you can perform zeroing, but with a reservation - it is about the type of power network. On the subject of zeroing, there were already some topics However, I think it is best if you ask an electrician to do this.

Anonymous · Answer

The sockets are in a loop from here, four wires. It is actually one and the same circuit. Normalka in blocks built under the communist regime, I have this in my flat myself and recently I changed from old sockets to new ones with pins in the whole flat. There are no protective conductors here, there were sockets in the kitchen and bathroom with the plug originally connected to zero. I did the same in the whole apartment, i.e. I have sockets with a pin everywhere and I connected this pin to zero.

You need to connect the wires by color to each other and to the socket to keep the loop. You fasten both blue ones together and plug them into the socket, similarly to the black one. Then you take a contract for energy supply and you are looking for the magic abbreviation TN-C, it will be around parameters such as the contracted power and the main fuse. If there is something else, like TT, then do nothing! If there is TN-C, connect the pin in the socket with the blue wires (zero), just check if you sometimes have no phase there because various things have already happened. 230V is to be only on black.

kebi88 · Answer

So if I understand correctly, I have to do it and that combination, why is it wrong, I would like to know for the future ...

Anonymous · Answer

It will be fine, this is how I have all the sockets connected at home. And in the previous one you had the wrong thing that you wanted to remove the two wires connecting the two parts of the socket to each other. The socket might work if the loop is properly powered from both ends, but the loop itself would lose continuity. And this is what the point is not to disconnect it anywhere, because then each socket gets power from both sides, with two independent 2x2.5mm cables. This gives greater reliability and safety, the short circuit loop impedance in the circuit decreases, the cables heat up less, in the event of a cable break somewhere, e.g. drilling, the circuit continues to function properly and so on.

kortyleski · Answer

Not. Read how to properly perform a zero

kebi88 · Answer

kortyleski, if I knew it, I wouldn't write it ... maybe I didn't understand the topic well ...

the previous socket was connected in such a way that the blue wire also went to the ground ...

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maurycy123 · Answer

If you don't know it, don't do it. First you connect the pin and then you make the bridge. Not the other way around !!!

kortyleski · Answer

First, connect the blue wires together, from this connection you go to the pins and only to the working contact of the socket. The phase wires also together and only for the socket. The thin cables pre-installed in the socket must not be used as a loop connector.

kebi88 · Answer

So I have to remove these factory wires from this socket? Sorry, but I'm a bit fooled ... Second question should I use a wire or a line?

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