The quality of the radio and its power, size 1 DIN vs 2 DIN, etc.

Hello.
I want to replace the factory radio in an old Hyundai car.
I have a few simple questions - I will be grateful for your answer.

1. 2 DIN radios are a bit more expensive (e.g. around 1000 PLN), than the very good 1 DIN (e.g. around 800 PLN).
I do not care about video, etc. More about the CD player + USB + bluetooth (for calls and people from the phone to transfer music). I have a more quality question:
is 2 DIN radio better than 1 DIN in terms of quality? I mean the sound quality during the listening session.
2. Will the 4x55W radio sound worse than 4x100W? It's still about quality, not loudness.

There is no difference and 1 DIN and 2 DIN are great and very weak devices.

wojtek7774 wrote:

2. Will the 4x55W radio sound worse than 4x100W? It's still about quality, not loudness.

The 4x100W radio will sound better in the range where 4x45 would be distorted, ie beyond the range of "normal use".
If we focus on good quality, then 4x 45 and the money saved should be invested in better speakers (with better quality and efficiency). Each dB more efficiency is equal to a few W more from the amplifier.

I understand. Thank you for your answer. So the conclusion is that I will buy a 1 DIN radio. There are a lot of well-known producers, but could you advise a "high-end" manufacturer?
As for the amount, as I wrote, it can be around PLN 1000. Anyway, I do not know if there are radios more expensive at 1 DIN. I care about quality. And then the speakers will be selected.

From the higher one it is Nakamichi and from the normal one ... I am of an old date so for me it is Pioneer, Blaupunkt, Alpine.

As for known producers, I was thinking about Sony - I don't know if it's a good choice.
As for Nakamichi - never heard of this brand, but read a bit. In Poland, I did not notice the possibility of buying. Someone there complained about the Nakamichi CD300 model (apparently an exception, but I don't know if it's true). In any case, you convinced me that there are radios more than PLN 1000 for 1 DIN. The Nakamichi CD 700 model costs ... $ 2,400.

But back to the facts, I found (from abroad you can bring) the Nakamichi NA350iBTR. All in all, it has everything I wanted, and its simplicity (no so-called unnecessary goodies) appeal to me even more. If the quality is much better than that of well-known market producers, then I will be tempted.
But does anyone know this Nakamichi NA350iBTR model?
It costs about $ 138. Together with the shipment to Poland, it comes out about PLN 600 - it's cheaper than the Sony I mentioned. But they probably still put the duty,

Oh, I do not recommend it. Someone bought the brand and pats average Chinese food.
Sony might be.

In fact, Nakamichi had been led by someone else before.
You might be tempted to look for old radios, but it might be a bad idea, because you don't know if the quality will be good after such a long time.
I also realized that importing any radio from the USA is also a bad idea. I remembered that the frequency there is set every 0.2 MHz - that is, many Polish stations "fall out". Apparently, it is sometimes possible to switch (or reprogram) into the European mode, but I prefer not to risk it.

So the only thing left is to buy a Sony radio.
I was just considering from the beginning in between MEX-N6002BD and MEX-XB100BT .
The difference, more or less, between them is that the MEX-N6002BD is less powerful (4x55 W) but has DAB + and some add-ons like Digital Sound Enhancement Engine (DSEE) and ClearAudio +.
And the MEX-XB100BT does not have it, but has more power (4x100 W) - that's why I asked this question at the very beginning about power.
So I guess buying the MEX-N6002BD (4x55 W ... etc) will be a good choice?

Don't look at DAB because there is no chance for development in Poland. There is some residual coverage for Polish Radio. Unless you're driving around Europe.
What kind of speakers?

I used to have 2 Blaupunks in my car (it was probably the BGX 693 MKII 3-way 6x9 '' model) on the back and I liked their quality very much (but it was in another car where I had to cut holes).
Currently, I have a car, where in the front, not in the door, and in the dashboard under the windshield, there are 2 x 105 mm, and at the rear - 2 x 165 mm. And I do not know if I cut holes for bigger holes, it is better, because bigger speakers ?? Or is it rather up to the manufacturer ...

Because ... there are few stores where you can listen to some car speakers on site. I was in a supermarket, I must honestly say that I liked the JBL (I don't remember the size, but the two-way set is separated).
On the other hand, when I called the stores, some advise the manufacturer Focal, others say something about the brands: Morel, Audio System (I don't know yet if I heard correctly: "Inilgold" and "Gladal" - something in the name pattern, but I'm not sure. ..).

Honestly, this is how it looks like I don't know what to choose at the moment. Best if I could hear it - I would know it.
I would like to buy rearward speakers first, then forward speakers. If the bass is sufficient, then the subwoofer falls out.
I don't want chopping, because I usually listen to film music, not some techno or something. Although it is known, there also (in film music), for example, the double bass can play very low. As I wrote, I care about the quality, not the volume or bass, which will kill the mid and high tones (as young people often have such ... boom, boom). By the way - I don't want to be deaf either

Check yourself an Alpine cde-178bt, ute-92bt or similar. They play fun and have tons of options. What exact model do you have to answer the question of how much do you want to spend on it. Ute-92bt costs PLN 599 but has no cd and a poor display. The Cde-178bt is better but also more expensive. They play similarly overall.

In stores you ask the question "what is good" and they answer the question "what is the highest margin", "what our warehouse collapses" or "what we need to push to close the sales plan" .
Alpine, however, are "grays" and I doubt that with the sound they make up for the lack of appearance compared to Sony.
If there is a space designed for a loudspeaker of a given size, I doubt that the carving would have any positive effects. Faster soundproofing. Look at efficiency, because a good one will give you more power without spinning it up.

Well, you went: "Alpine are" grays "and I doubt that with the sound they make up for the lack of appearance compared to Sony"
Have you ever heard the Alpine radio?
Have you heard anything from the latest models? which have a full 3way crossover, time correction in 6 channels, add Flaci, etc. I do not mention the phon application on which you set the equalizer, etc.
Sony in car audio ended a long time ago. There are gold series XM and higher M but they are 15-20 years old still made in Japan.

My listening to Alpine is from the time they had 6 big aquamarine buttons. They didn't stand out that much back then. I can see that I have lost a lot and I promise to make up. But they are visually gray. On the other hand, the radio is not to be looked at.

But if you are familiar with radios from 20 years ago, do not recommend Sony to your colleague because this company in car audio has long ended. And Alpine had some slight mishaps along the way but it keeps the level all the time and new models come back with good playing plus all the news.

D214d3k wrote:

In stores you ask the question "what is good" and they answer the question "what is the highest margin", "what our warehouse collapses" or "what we need to push to close the sales plan" .

This is a fact. It also depends on the store or the equipment we want to buy. But you have to be careful with the suggestions of the seller, who does not always see our needs, but may see his own interests more.
But it also depends, as I said, on the given advisor and the store, because there are also honest people.

D214d3k wrote:

If there is a space designed for a loudspeaker of a given size, I doubt that the carving would have any positive effects. Faster soundproofing. Look at efficiency, because a good one will give you more power without spinning it up.

By efficiency, you mean volume? So the amount of dB? Only the volume, it's not the quality after all?

domino987 wrote:

But if you are familiar with radios from 20 years ago, do not recommend Sony to your colleague because this company in car audio has long ended. And Alpine had some slight mishaps along the way but it keeps the level all the time and new models come back with good playing plus all the news.

Relax, gentlemen, because D214d3k he tries to help too And I am very grateful to him that he was the only one who corresponded with me at the very beginning.
So you say (together with adam_1991r ) that Alpine currently stands out with the best radios among manufacturers?
Best if I could audition both Sony and Alpine - then I would know.

As for the speakers and what I wrote about them in an earlier post, can you recommend something?

wojtek7774 wrote:

Only the volume, it's not the quality after all?

But the possibility of louder listening with a smaller amplifier (at the beginning there were plans for 100W).

I understand. In that case, I will be looking for not too weak speakers, because the radio will probably have about 50 W.

As for the speaker manufacturer, are there any ideas ...?