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Man TGA D20 - EDC 03781-01, EDC 1079, Constant pressure on a 750bar strip

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  • #1 16715067
    MobilTruck
    Level 31  
    I would like someone to confirm that from oily inside the driver it can be damaged?
    Tractor p. As in topic
    The parameters show a constant pressure of 750bar when the ignition is on, after firing it starts to oscillate +/- 20 bar, under a sudden load it jumps up to 850bar. A new sensor. The beam tested twice. .
    I spilled ecu, so I washed it now instead of 1079 I have 3099.
    At 90% I am convinced that it is the fault of the ECU but maybe I missed something so please give a hint before buying a second ecu.
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  • #2 16715130
    Hektar Zahler
    Level 34  
    Yes, you missed the basics. Don't get me wrong, because a good specialist will get it over with your eyes closed. And he will be able to give an overly satisfying answer. All in all I don't know if this is important, but such defects are made. In addition, I have good advice with such MANs: after all do it right ECU connector, because it has a manufacturing defect in itself.
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  • #3 16715152
    MobilTruck
    Level 31  
    Then make me aware of these basics. What you think is not professional in what I described, read with understanding, Ecu sees the pressure on the engine not running.
  • #4 16715153
    Hektar Zahler
    Level 34  
    He sees a friend, but you can't see.

    Moderated By serwisantscani1:

    A friend receives a warning for posts that add nothing to the topic and cause a quarrelsome atmosphere.

  • #5 16715157
    MobilTruck
    Level 31  
    But how can he see if he is not on the strip. Because the engine does not work, a separate plug from the sensor and also unchanged.
  • #6 16715158
    Hektar Zahler
    Level 34  
    And stick with it. As I said A, I will also say B. This is because in your position you should throw this computer out the window and use the appropriate tools.
  • #7 16715161
    MobilTruck
    Level 31  
    Congratulate the imagination. However, I will wait for the experienced in the subject.
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  • #8 16715172
    Hektar Zahler
    Level 34  
    Buddy, with every answer your reasoning is getting worse. If we find the word connector in it, we'll talk.
  • #9 16715175
    MobilTruck
    Level 31  
    pitool wrote:
    bundle checked twice.

    I wrote clearly. Washed connector, 160,161,162 cables which are responsible for the sensor and checked in every respect.
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    #10 16715609
    stanisławpiotr
    Level 33  
    Hi, I see that colleague "Hektar Zahler" answers all puzzling topics that appear on the forum, scoring points and the answers do not bring anything helpful in the topics. "Pitool" buddy, I think the best solution to your problem will be measuring the voltage on the ECU plug. Simply make a device cable with a thin needle and insert it through the connector's rubber on the sensor input pin. Measure the 5V sensor supply voltage and the output signal which should be between (no pressure) 0.5V - 4.5V (full pressure). Give the measurements in the post. "Hektar Zahler" speaking of a defect may mean ECU plug sleeves which often lose their elasticity and there is no contact with the pin on the UCU.
    If the correct values are found on the sensor and ecu measurements, measure the ECU input values (ignition off) with the sensor disconnected using an ohmmeter between ground and power supply and between ground and signal output. Depending on the value, this measurement will help you check whether the wires (sensor connector) have a connection with the ECU.
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    #11 16716563
    kakibara
    Level 35  
    Cool hints can also add something to myself - in general, I washed the computer several times and walked, as well as the control unit had to be replaced several times - for various errors.
    How to secure the entrance? Pour silicone until it comes out the other way - do you think this is the way out?
    Check the large plug connection.
    Ps The new spider cable was replaced three times in a warranty period of six months, and oil appeared. And do not write that I have no more boil over at Allegro.
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    #12 16717100
    saron22
    Trucks specialist
    Returning to the merits: you missed nothing. ECU can play such pranks. The only sensible hint and at the same time an attempt to solve this problem is to replace the ECU with another one. Then everything will be explained at the moment.
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  • #13 16717217
    MobilTruck
    Level 31  
    I did a bdm clone of the controller on the table and I played with curiosity its curiosity.
    The effect is that apart from a whole bunch of other errors, error 03781-01 and constant 750bar have not changed.
    Second ECU on the road, with effects even though
    Hektar Zahler wrote:
    I missed the basics
    I will let you know.
  • #14 16718384
    kakibara
    Level 35  
    Probably the full power will come to life.
  • #15 16719502
    Hektar Zahler
    Level 34  
    Dude, it's not just you who come here, because there are a lot of people with the vision of throwing a cabbage cart away. I have already told you my cars, and now if you want to listen to me, you are doing it right. Unclip the cube and measure if it is actually 0V on the middle contact, possibly (as the previous speaker said) or is 0.5V plugged in. And you poke the clocks in the clocks if there is an adequate error, i.e. with the index 02. If not, you look at the chart below and you poke the clocks in the clocks or there is 03781-01, which would now mean a damaged ECU input, which you can try to fix alone - if you feel up to it. In this situation, you need to give these 0.5V on the sensor cube and again you poke the clocks in the clocks what is the error, or killed. If you do not die, you confirm the internal damage of the cassette by specifying 0V in this place, you stuck the clocks in the clocks and you see no error with the index 02, which means now that the computer has been stupid and there is damage to the bank inside the controller, for which you need a drip of oil in your head. Then you take the computer to the electronics and report what was measured, and he does his job.

    Added after 8 [minutes]:

    Sensor curve for meter measurement.

    Man TGA D20 - EDC 03781-01, EDC 1079, Constant pressure on a 750bar strip

    Today, maybe I will be able to hack the cabin, because on Saturday I had too much of this bad comfort shift, maybe I will learn something more.
    (it's a pity you didn't call, because there was a comparison option on a working car)
    I sent you error codes in clocks at PW.
    Moderated By serwisantscani1:

    This is a public forum and the "spelling up" spelling is not suitable for a "specialist".

  • #16 17630438
    Hektar Zahler
    Level 34  
    cartridge repair and after the problem

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around issues with the MAN TGA D20's ECU, specifically concerning error codes EDC 03781-01 and EDC 1079, and a constant pressure reading of 750 bar. The user suspects that oil contamination inside the driver may have caused damage, as the pressure fluctuates and spikes under load. Various responses suggest checking the ECU connector for manufacturing defects, measuring voltage at the ECU plug, and considering the replacement of the ECU as a potential solution. The user has already attempted to clone the controller and has experienced persistent errors. The conversation emphasizes the importance of proper diagnostics and the potential for ECU failure.
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FAQ

TL;DR: If your MAN TGA D20 shows a constant 750 bar rail pressure, the ECU may be faulty—“ECU can play such pranks.” Swap-test or repair the ECU to confirm. [Elektroda, saron22, post #16717100] Why it matters: This FAQ helps techs quickly isolate EDC 03781-01/1079 faults, rail-pressure sensor issues, and known ECU connector defects on MAN TGA D20 common-rail systems.

Quick Facts

• Typical symptom: 750 bar with ignition on; ±20 bar fluctuation running; up to 850 bar under load. [Elektroda, MobilTruck, post #16715067] • Error codes seen: EDC 03781-01; washing ECU changed 1079 to 3099. [Elektroda, MobilTruck, post #16715067] • Sensor signals: 5 V supply; ~0.5 V no pressure to ~4.5 V full scale. [Elektroda, stanisławpiotr, post #16715609] • Known issue: ECU connector manufacturing defect—“do it right” at the plug. [Elektroda, Hektar Zahler, post #16715130] • Proven fix reported: ECU module (“cartridge”) repair resolved the fault. [Elektroda, Hektar Zahler, post #17630438]

How do I diagnose a constant 750 bar reading on a MAN TGA D20?

Confirm rail-pressure sensor supply (5 V) and signal (≈0.5–4.5 V) at the ECU plug using back-probing needles. If voltage and wiring check out, swap-test the ECU to isolate a faulty input stage. “ECU can play such pranks.” [Elektroda, saron22, post #16717100]

What does EDC 03781-01 mean in this context?

In the thread, 03781-01 accompanied a stuck 750 bar reading. Members traced it toward the ECU’s pressure-sensor input path. A swap or repair of the ECU clarified the root cause. [Elektroda, MobilTruck, post #16717217]

Could the ECU connector be the real problem?

Yes. A contributor flagged a manufacturing defect at the ECU plug. Reseat, clean, and “do it right” to restore pin contact before replacing parts. [Elektroda, Hektar Zahler, post #16715130]

How do I measure the rail-pressure sensor signals safely?

Back-probe the ECU connector: verify 5 V reference, ground, and signal. Expect ~0.5 V with no pressure and up to ~4.5 V at full scale. Record values for comparison. [Elektroda, stanisławpiotr, post #16715609]

What if unplugging the sensor still shows 750 bar?

If the ECU still reports 750 bar with the sensor disconnected, the ECU input may be shorted or biased internally. Swap-test or bench-check the controller. [Elektroda, MobilTruck, post #16715157]

Can washing or oil inside the ECU cause new errors like 3099?

Yes. After cleaning a leaked ECU, one case changed a 1079 error to 3099. Liquid ingress and residue can alter internal circuits and code flags. [Elektroda, MobilTruck, post #16715067]

Is replacing the wiring harness (‘spider’ cable) a lasting fix?

Not always. One user replaced the spider harness three times in six months, and oil reappeared. Address the source of oil ingress and the ECU interface. [Elektroda, kakibara, post #16716563]

What quick test confirms a bad ECU pressure-sensor input?

Inject about 0.5 V into the sensor signal pin at the ECU. If the displayed pressure changes normally, the harness is fine and the ECU input path is suspect. [Elektroda, Hektar Zahler, post #16719502]

What finally solved similar cases in this thread?

ECU repair. A participant reported “cartridge repair and after the problem,” confirming an internal controller fault rather than a sensor or loom issue. [Elektroda, Hektar Zahler, post #17630438]

What is BDM cloning, and does it fix this issue?

BDM cloning copies ECU data on the bench. In the case described, cloning reproduced the same 03781-01 and 750 bar fault, indicating hardware, not software. [Elektroda, MobilTruck, post #16717217]

Any statistic from real symptoms I can compare against?

Yes. Reported values were a steady 750 bar with ignition on, ±20 bar oscillation running, and spikes up to 850 bar under sudden load. [Elektroda, MobilTruck, post #16715067]

Could a new pressure sensor still read wrong?

Yes, if the ECU input or connector is faulty. The thread used a new sensor, but the ECU still showed 750 bar with the sensor unplugged. [Elektroda, MobilTruck, post #16715157]

Is there a 3-step how-to to triage this fast?

  1. Back-probe 5 V, ground, and signal (0.5–4.5 V) at the ECU.
  2. If values are wrong, test continuity from sensor to ECU.
  3. If wiring is sound, inject ~0.5 V at signal; if reading responds, repair/replace ECU. [Elektroda, stanisławpiotr, post #16715609]

Any expert tip about the ECU plug?

Yes. “Do it right ECU connector, because it has a manufacturing defect.” Inspect sleeves, tension, and cleanliness before condemning parts. [Elektroda, Hektar Zahler, post #16715130]

Edge case: the harness keeps getting oily—what then?

Repeated oil return suggests a source upstream. One user saw oil despite three new harnesses. Fix leaks and seal interfaces, then reassess faults. [Elektroda, kakibara, post #16716563]
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