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Choosing Arduino for Beginners: Original vs Clone, Uno vs Leonardo, and the Best Stores to Buy

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  • #1 16785666
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
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  • #2 16785843
    piotr_go
    DIY electronics designer
    Uno maple is enough for a start. Preferably 2 pcs in case you would break / block the slinger.
    If you are in a hurry, then aliexpress.
    For this breadboard, some LEDs, 470r, 1k, 10k resistors and buttons. Or some set of accessories.

    https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/free-shipping-...i-Breadboard-LED-jumper-wire/32392610240.html
    https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/Starter-Kit-UN...on-for-Arduino-Free-Shipping/32395492385.html

    Aaaaaaa, and such plates can be useful:
    https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/98-10-free-shi...pper-prototype-pcb-Universal/32674680192.html
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  • #3 16786033
    zetdeel
    Level 39  
    Note that cheap clones (e.g. the one from AliExpress that you linked to) often have a USB / Serial to CH340G converter. Then you need to install a driver for this chip. Then you check in the device manager which COM you have on this driver (Arduino must be connected to the USB port), and select it in the Arduino program (Tools -> Serial port).
    It's actually not a problem at all, but if you don't know it ... :)
  • #4 16786075
    tronics
    Level 38  
    @zetdeel - it installed itself on win10, I suspect that it would be exactly the same on win7 and win8. You could also consider a series based on SAM Atmel (32-bit ARM Cortex cores) - 3.3V (which is often a plus because many sensors and displays already work at 3V3 max) but more powerful. If it is to be cheap and fast, instead of arduino clones, you can take cheap STM32F103 boards as shown in this video (also programming in arduino):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze6q6NidS5w
    The problem is that the cheapest ones do not have a built-in usb-ttl, so you need an external (cost from one dollar up) or a st-link (cost about 2 dollars and above).
    If, on the other hand, we want to make some devices based on arduino, we can try nano - they are cheap enough that you can buy a few of them and simply build what you want on them, or some measuring device, or some remote-controlled vehicle or controller aquarium or anything else. You will not regret using such a toddler.
  • #5 16786537
    telecaster1951
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Don't shake the boy because he'll go crazy. Uno is enough. I recommend Arduino Uno with a prock on the stand. It costs a hundred bucks, but if the prock fails, it can be replaced quickly and cheaply.
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  • #6 16786945
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #7 16787186
    tronics
    Level 38  
    It will be ok. In case something happens to you with one MCU (eg you accidentally break it), it is enough to buy the microcontroller and upload the bootloader with the second arduino.
  • #8 16787187
    jaclew
    Level 18  
    At the beginning, it is a perfect choice. In my opinion, only Uno with a microcontroller in the socket, because in the event of its release
    you insert the second one and continue working (after uploading the bootloadrea).
    By the way, buy yourself a USBasp programmer so that it will not even be useful in an emergency situation of this Uno
    this will be useful as the next step in post-ISP programming.
    Uno also because there are dozens of overlays / extensions (shields) on this board, thanks to which it tests standard projects
    will be easier.
  • #9 16787332
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
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  • #11 16787886
    piotr_go
    DIY electronics designer
    telecaster1951 wrote:
    I am thinking of buying 1 original set

    Not on aliexpress, I doubt they have the originals.
    Wait with the original, see first if you like programming microcontrollers.
  • #12 16787960
    tronics
    Level 38  
    @piotr_go
    Paaanie, he's even been Blockly for Arduino for a while :) What's not to like here :P
    e.g.
    https://ardublockly.embeddedlog.com/
    After all, in this form, this child after the lego robotics course is able to grasp arduino ;)
  • #13 16788412
    jaclew
    Level 18  
    Lemno wrote:
    I found a few programmers, only worried me that ATmega8 and ATmega128 are written there. Does that mean I won't program this 328?

    look for one that supports atemga 328 which is not new, almost all of them now support it.
    Maybe you were looking at what controller this programmer is made of, and not what microcontrollers it supports.

    tronics wrote:
    After all, in this form, this child after the lego robotics course is able to grasp arduino

    and why these boringly sad sarcasms?
  • #14 16788695
    tronics
    Level 38  
    Quote:
    and why these boringly sad sarcasms?

    What sarcasm? ;) means not to take a part of the statement as seriously as your colleague has just done. And why exactly did I write something like that? Because it just so happens that kids in my town have recently learned about Lego mindstorm and the Junior level are such blocks. If a child on pulleys would do it, and on arduino pulleys it would be fine. Where's the sarcasm !?
  • #15 16789091
    kassans
    Level 32  
    I have arduino clones for as long as I can remember, those on CH340g are trouble-free win 7 and 8 install the driver immediately. I use mini pro most often because they are small ;)
  • #16 16789491
    Simon79
    Level 21  
    I was the first Arduino to buy the original Arduino Uno on Allegro quite a few years ago and it is still used today.
    Currently, I am buying a smaller, nano or pro mini as it often applies them to the target device and fits better to the contact plate during experiments. I mean buying clones on Alliexpress, I haven't been disappointed yet, no problems with drivers, compilation of programs in different IDE versions is more likely to cause problems than a broken clone.
    But remember, buying the original is supporting the Arduino Foundation and its development :) .
  • #17 16807456
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the choice of Arduino for beginners, focusing on whether to purchase an original Arduino or a cheaper clone for initial learning. Participants suggest starting with an Arduino Uno, emphasizing its ease of use and availability of accessories. Clones, particularly those with the CH340G USB/Serial converter, are noted for their affordability but may require additional driver installations. Recommendations include purchasing from AliExpress for budget options, while also considering local stores like Botland or Kamami for original products. The Arduino Uno is favored over the Leonardo for its compatibility with numerous shields and ease of programming. Some users also mention exploring STM32F103 boards as alternatives. The consensus leans towards acquiring both an original and a clone with removable ATmega for flexibility in projects.
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