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Validity Period for Entry on Qualified Technical Security Staff List

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  • #1 16794409
    pawlo_1
    Level 17  
    Hello, how in the subject how much such an entry is valid? Alternatively, I would ask for a bill to talk about it. Thank you.
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  • #2 16794465
    KRY5PIN
    Level 37  
    This year I renewed it, valid for 2 years. It came to the point that now physical and psychological tests must be confirmed by a third doctor.
  • #3 16794525
    Stan-Mar

    Level 27  
    KRY5PIN wrote:
    This year I renewed it, valid for 2 years. It came to the point that now physical and psychological tests must be confirmed by a third doctor.


    Since when are the qualifications for the qualified employee renewed and physical and psychological tests required?
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  • #5 16794636
    Daro1003
    Level 34  
    I made this entry somehow in the beginning of January February but only a doctor, no tests.

    After your entry, are you applying for a license at the ministry? I have emailed in this matter and everything can be done by post.
  • #6 16794664
    KRY5PIN
    Level 37  
    pawlo_1 but what technical level do you mean? Because I have a second degree. Everything depends on what you need.
  • #7 16794730
    pawlo_1
    Level 17  
    KRY5PIN wrote:
    pawlo_1 but what technical level do you mean? Because I have a second degree. Everything depends on what you need.


    In 2014 I was entered on the list of qualified technical security employees (from what I know, there is no division into 1st and 2nd degree as it used to be). Personally, I thought that the entry is indefinite, but yesterday the district called me informing me that he was conducting an "interview" about me because 3 years had passed and every three years it needs to be renewed. At the same time, he asked if I had any current medical examinations that would be required of me. Generally terribly uninformed, this policeman advised to call the provincial headquarters, which I will probably do tomorrow.
    In the Act of August 22, 1997 on the protection of persons and property, I found such an article, but as the bull says it refers to persons entered on the list of qualified employees physical protection .

    Art. 32. Medical and psychological examinations of persons entered on the list of qualified physical protection workers shall be carried out every 3 years or for periods shorter than 3 years:
    1) if the medical or psychological certificate indicates a shorter period of the next examination than 3 years;
    2) after a period of incapacity for work due to illness lasting longer than 6 months;
    3) at the request of the employer or competent provincial police commander - in the event of a justified suspicion of losing physical or mental ability to perform tasks.
  • #8 16795288
    Stan-Mar

    Level 27  
    It all depends on how the doctor issues a certificate to you. The occupational medicine doctor gave me an indefinite period and does not require any additional tests. And that the district officer does an interview every 3 years, this is a requirement of the law.
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  • #9 16807032
    norbibak
    Level 10  
    On the KWP website in Poznań link: http://bip.poznan.kwp.policja.gov.pl/KWP/wydzial-postepowan-adm/pracownica-ochrony/19054,K qualified-pracownik-zabezpieczenia-technicznego.html I found such a record regarding "Qualified technical security officer":
    Applicants for entry on the list of qualified technical security employees submit: (among others)
    ..... a photocopy of the certificate confirming the completion of the technical security course or the certificate of apprenticeship (original available for inspection) ....
    I don't know what's going on and do any of you have such a certificate?
  • #10 16807060
    gkwiatkowski
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    Article 27 of the Act:

    http://nimoz.pl/upload/akty%20prawne/akty_201...sierpnia_1997_r._o_ochronie_osob_i_mienia.pdf

    If you have not completed at least a vocational school in electrical, electronic, communications, mechanical, information technology, you must complete a course or be apprenticed.
    So if you have a school-leaving certificate or technical studies certificate in the above-mentioned specialties, then you do not need to have any courses.
  • #11 16808199
    mw46mw
    Level 1  
    Hello
    the regulation to practice the profession of protection of property and persons of 22 August 1997 imposed the obligation to have such a license for employees dealing with anti-burglar security (assembly, service) or key service on proprietary key profiles, services for institutions, anyone in contact with protection had to pass state ezamines after the course (to a greater extent than now) I have my license number 0000966 from 1998 is one of the first in Poland
  • #12 16819152
    pawlo_1
    Level 17  
    It turned out that the policeman did not have any knowledge on this subject. For security employees technical every three years an interview is done, while medical examinations are indefinite - this information was obtained at the Provincial Headquarters.
    Thank you all for your help.
  • #13 16819387
    Stan-Mar

    Level 27  
    pawlo_1 wrote:
    It turned out that the policeman did not have any knowledge on this subject. For security employees technical every three years an interview is done, while medical examinations are indefinite - this information was obtained at the Provincial Headquarters.
    Thank you all for your help.



    I wrote this to you earlier in my post.
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  • #14 18195646
    VariaTHQ
    Level 1  
    Hello, I am in the subject of entry on the list of technical security staff,
    I wanted to ask, or rather clarify what research and what must be written in the judgment to be considered appropriate.

    For some time I have been trying to find out where to go for the tests and for which and whether a referral from the employer is needed.

    What should I do if I would like to obtain such tests myself (except go and pay)
  • #15 18195656
    pawlo_1
    Level 17  
    A colleague and I did the research 2 years ago and lost 2 days looking for the right facility and dozens of telephones. I was sent from one to the other, and as I found it was the Ministry of Interior and Administration hospital in Lublin, a referral from the employer was requested, and that I was self-employed, I asked if I could write myself - the answer was NOT to be from the employer and they would not accept me :) )). Finally, I found a facility in Zamosc, 2 hours and after all (standard tests, ophthalmologist, neurologist). And it was the only outpatient clinic where I didn't shine my eyes as I said for what I need research.
  • #16 18195924
    gkwiatkowski
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    VariaTHQ wrote:
    Hello, I am in the subject of entry on the list of technical security staff,
    I wanted to ask, or rather clarify what research and what must be written in the judgment to be considered appropriate.

    For some time I have been trying to find out where to go for the tests and for which and whether a referral from the employer is needed.

    What should I do if I would like to obtain such tests myself (except go and pay)


    If you are interested in Warsaw, then I did research at the clinic at AON in Rembertów. It was still under the old terms under a physical and technical license.
    I also remember that in a few years a colleague arranged to have an appointment at a Cepelek clinic.
    In registration, you report for what entitlement you want the examination, pay and wait for doctors. I don't know if a technical blood test is needed.
    If you come early in the morning, the same day you get a judgment.
  • #17 18196271
    TomD2121
    Level 15  
    I had a security license from about 2005, then I revoked it twice without working in security, that is, for the next 6 years. Research, psychotests. District visits and neighbors' looks. Lost time and money. Now, after the amendment of the Act, I have not done any research and I have not received the entry. The conclusion is this. That in 15 years and hundreds of installed systems and the second hundred serviced nobody has ever asked me if I have any license ... Application? Why this whole post?
  • #18 18196511
    gkwiatkowski
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    TomD2121 wrote:
    I had a security license from about 2005, then I revoked it twice without working in security, that is, for the next 6 years. Research, psychotests. District visits and neighbors' looks. Lost time and money. Now, after the amendment of the Act, I have not done any research and I have not received the entry. The conclusion is this. That in 15 years and hundreds of installed systems and the second hundred serviced nobody has ever asked me if I have any license ... Application? Why this whole post?


    Entry in the list (and earlier a license) is required by banks, secret offices, some state institutions and companies or if someone enters such a requirement in the tender.

    Strange that you had to do your research again. Usually give indefinite.
    The entry on the list after the change of the bill was from the machine for everyone with a license.
  • #19 18196623
    TomD2121
    Level 15  
    I have always been tested for 3 years. The cost of tests and psychotests about 150-200 PLN from what I remember. That's why I gave up my entry on the list ..
  • #20 18196729
    gkwiatkowski
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    TomD2121 wrote:
    I have always been tested for 3 years. The cost of tests and psychotests about 150-200 PLN from what I remember. That's why I gave up my entry on the list ..


    Maybe it was the specificity of this particular clinic / doctor that they always gave for 3 years?
    Friends with a technical license were always given indefinite. Timely examinations were only for physical protection.
  • #21 18196866
    TomD2121
    Level 15  
    It would be nice because I would have a license / entry today. Maybe in the future I will look for another clinic ...
  • #22 18197006
    alster1
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    gkwiatkowski wrote:
    Entry in the list (and earlier a license) is required by banks, secret offices, some state institutions and companies or if someone enters such a requirement in the tender.

    An MSWiA license is required in these institutions to have a license you must have an entry.

    At first, they treated the technical license as physical and required tests every 3 years, after a few years it changed.
  • #23 18208045
    .:Marcin:.
    Level 13  
    Truth and not true with this concession ;)

    A concession is an entry for an employee for a company.
  • #24 18227880
    moree
    Level 10  
    I also have a problem.
    I am looking for a course that will enable me to be included in the list of qualified technical security employees.
    So what does this research look like and where do you need to go? I am from Lublin.
    I am self-employed (my own company)
    Will anyone advise?
    Thank you
  • #25 18228001
    gkwiatkowski
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    moree wrote:
    I also have a problem.
    I am looking for a course that will enable me to be included in the list of qualified technical security employees.
    So what does this research look like and where do you need to go? I am from Lublin.
    I am self-employed (my own company)
    Will anyone advise?
    Thank you


    Do you have technical education? What direction? Maybe you don't need a formal course.
    Enter in Google: "Lublin technical security officer examination".
    I immediately get a page of the Police from Lublin with a description of the requirements and a template of the application, as well as a page of a cabinet that conducts tests. Just ask if these are complete tests, not partial tests.
  • #26 18228036
    moree
    Level 10  
    gkwiatkowski wrote:
    moree wrote:
    I also have a problem.
    I am looking for a course that will enable me to be included in the list of qualified technical security employees.
    So what does this research look like and where do you need to go? I am from Lublin.
    I am self-employed (my own company)
    Will anyone advise?
    Thank you


    Do you have technical education? What direction? Maybe you don't need a formal course.
    Enter in Google: "Lublin technical security officer examination".
    I immediately get a page of the Police from Lublin with a description of the requirements and a template of the application, as well as a page of a cabinet that conducts tests. Just ask if these are complete tests, not partial tests.


    1. I don't have technical education.
    2. I entered and there is nothing
  • #27 18228361
    gkwiatkowski
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    I have this:

    http://bip.lublin.kwp.policja.gov.pl/KWL/pozw...ia-na-bron-dopu/30275,Pracownicy-ochrony.html

    http://www.piro.igabinet.pl/g1458156649pol-BADANIA-NA-BRON.html

    https://lublin.praca.gov.pl/-/8534329-propozycje-szkolen-na-rok-2019

    As for the courses, they are also organized by TECHOM and PISA, but probably only in Warsaw.

    You can also go to the Department of Administrative Administrative Police in Lublin and ask where the applicants bring medical examinations and what technical training they recognize.
  • #28 18228391
    alster1
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    I do not know how it is now, the last time I updated my research for a license, an occupational medicine doctor was enough (I found a scan of the decision). It was only important that it was written "judgment and adjudicate" and not "certificate, certify"

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the validity period for entries on the list of qualified technical security staff. Participants share that the entry is typically valid for three years, requiring periodic medical and psychological examinations. Some users mention that the medical certificates can be issued for an indefinite period, depending on the occupational medicine doctor. The conversation also touches on the necessity of having a technical education or completing specific courses to qualify for the list. Various users provide links to legal documents and resources for further clarification on requirements and procedures for obtaining the necessary qualifications and tests.
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