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Transformer Winding: Identify Primary & Secondary Wires (230/24V 2.5A, 2 Red, 2 Black)

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  • #1 16857032
    Szweduu
    Level 2  
    Hello, I need a quick and reliable answer. I have a 230/24 V 2.5A transformer and 4 wires come out (2 red and 2 black). I have no idea which of the wires goes to the primary winding and which to the secondary winding. By its name is written 230V voltage next to it is written "black", it is not written whether black is a secondary or primary winding. Will someone help? I will also add that the red wires are thinner. I have no way to check the resistance, I do not have a meter. Regards
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  • #2 16857069
    czareqpl
    Level 33  
    As a rule, the primary winding will have thinner wires and their resistance will be higher. Try to measure with a meter.
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  • #3 16857072
    MDD
    Level 31  
    As you are sure that 230V on 24V is thin 230V and thick 24V. If you have no clue, be careful with that.
  • #4 16857074
    viayner
    Level 43  
    Hello,
    - resistance measurement but no meter but the meter is the basis
    - thinner wire is usually from the primary winding but not always transformers for tube devices but this case does not occur.
    - with a 50VA transformer, the primary winding is 0.2mm wire and 1-1.5mm secondary wire
    - you are interested in the winding wire on the body and not the lead wires, although these should also be appropriate.
    Regards
  • #5 16857109
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    Szweduu wrote:
    I have no way to check the resistance, I don't have a meter
    viayner wrote:
    measurement of resistance but no meter but the meter is the basis

    All you need is a 40W / 230V light bulb connected in series with the transformer winding. Secondary it is in combination with which it shines brighter.
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  • #6 16857114
    czareqpl
    Level 33  
    vodiczka wrote:
    All you need is a 40W / 230V light bulb connected in series with the transformer winding. Secondary it is in combination with which it shines brighter.


    Nice method. I would add far-reaching caution to stay away from the second pair of transformer wires when checking :D The differential will not work ...
  • #7 16857146
    aksakal
    Tube devices specialist
    If you do not have an ohmmeter, then you can connect the transformer to the network through a 230V 40 - 100W light bulb. The original winding will be the one when turning on the light bulb to turn on, and for a part of a second the brightness will decrease to barely noticeable. When connecting the secondary winding to the network, the bulb will glow bright all the time. Transformer Winding: Identify Primary & Secondary Wires (230/24V 2.5A, 2 Red, 2 Black)
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  • #8 16857157
    niewolno2
    Level 40  
    Just connect 24V to one of the windings and the matter will clear itself.
    If you supply 24V on the secondary winding, then the primary voltage will be about 230V, and after feeding 24V on the primary winding, you will have a significantly low voltage on the secondary side.
  • #9 16857183
    kortyleski
    Level 43  
    niewolno2 wrote:
    Just connect 24V to one of the windings and the matter will clear itself.

    You only need to have a meter.
  • #10 16857189
    niewolno2
    Level 40  
    Without a meter it's not a job.
  • #11 16857235
    W.P.
    Computer PSUs specialist
    I only have small "3 grosze" ...
    Term primary and secondary is not permanently assigned to a specific winding.
    The primary is the winding, which we power the transformer with, from the secondary we receive energy. So everything depends on the connection.
  • #12 16857258
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    W.P. wrote:
    Primary and secondary designation is not permanently assigned to a particular winding.
    My opinion is and is at the transformer design stage.
    The fact that you can "reverse" the winding in some cases without damaging the transformer does not mean, for example, that you do not violate its safety class.
  • #13 16857334
    Szweduu
    Level 2  
    Thanks for the answers. Regards

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around identifying the primary and secondary windings of a 230/24V 2.5A transformer with four wires (2 red and 2 black). Participants suggest that typically, the primary winding has thinner wires and higher resistance, but caution that this is not a strict rule. Without a multimeter, users recommend using a 40W/230V light bulb in series with the transformer to determine the windings based on brightness. Another method involves applying 24V to one winding to observe the voltage on the other. The importance of safety and proper identification of windings is emphasized, as incorrect connections can lead to safety hazards.
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