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DVB-T: MUX 2 Issues with RTCN Poznań Śrem Signal - Antenna TELKOM-TELMOR, Possible Interference?

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  • #1 16924085
    dyspozytor
    Level 13  
    My problem is with MUX-2. I am receiving a signal from RTCN Poznań "Śrem". I live within 5 km. Antenna: TELKOM-TELMOR. All other MUXs work fine. On the other hand, periodically on MUX-2 (TVN, Polsat, etc.) the program can not be received. It hangs up, breaks. Mostly in the evening. Sometimes the reception is very good. Surely this is not a decoder issue, because I tried with different ones. Also TV with a built-in decoder.
    Could it be a matter of some disturbance? weather influence?
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  • #2 16924155
    Włodzimierz Wojtiuk
    Level 32  
    dyspozytor wrote:
    Antenna: TELKOM-TELMOR.

    more specifically?
    ie what exactly and how placed?
  • #3 16924216
    dyspozytor
    Level 13  
    Passive terrestrial TV antenna Telmor DIGIT Passive
    - Full HD
    - UHF (channels 21 to 69).
    - Uniform signal amplification in the whole frequency range
    - Profit / effectiveness - 4 dB
    - Strong attenuation of GSM signals thanks to the appropriate shaped characteristics.
    - Good fit (WFS pound: 2.2).
    - Discrimination of back radiation
    I have so much in the description of the antenna
    Antenna in a horizontal position, just like on a photo. It hangs on the 4th floor.
    DVB-T: MUX 2 Issues with RTCN Poznań Śrem Signal - Antenna TELKOM-TELMOR, Possible Interference?
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  • #4 16924281
    Włodzimierz Wojtiuk
    Level 32  
    dyspozytor wrote:
    Antenna in a horizontal position, just like on a photo. It hangs on the 4th floor.

    I understand that he "sees" the transmitter?
  • #5 16924321
    andpol 33
    Level 38  
    In the place where the antenna is hanging, the signal is insufficient.
  • #6 16924338
    Włodzimierz Wojtiuk
    Level 32  
    andpol 33 wrote:
    In the place where the antenna is hanging, the signal is insufficient.

    Are you sure? Really?
    dyspozytor wrote:
    I am receiving a signal from RTCN Poznań "Śrem". I live within 5 km.

    because in my opinion it can be too big .

    At the time when the reception gets worse let the author of the thread check his strength and signal quality on the tuner (of course on the right channel).
  • #7 16924363
    andpol 33
    Level 38  
    I'm not sure because I was not there. The fact that it is 5km to the transmitter does not testify to anything? It is enough to build buildings. I have such a case even in the family. Skyscraper 5th floor, to the transmitter can also from 5 km. From the kitchen side, a beautiful view of the EC4 chimney and from the side of the living room where there is no stable picture antenna. Of course, the apartment after renovation and there is no chance to drag the cable from the kitchen. :cry: I do not know from where such a view that like 5km must already receive it.
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  • #8 16924369
    _kli_
    Level 41  
    They receive mux-y on low channels 23 and 27, no reception on k.39. It looks like a weak signal.
    So the questions remain
    Włodzimierz Wojtiuk wrote:
    how placed?
    Włodzimierz Wojtiuk wrote:
    "sees" the transmitter?
    Is it mounted outside? What cable and what length? Are the connectors correctly made?
  • #9 16924404
    dyspozytor
    Level 13  
    The antenna sees the transmitter. However, the signal goes along the block. And so I think, is there any interference from neighbors? Cable about 1.5 m. Installation repeatedly checked.

    SNR - 22.2 dB to 26.1 dB
    Signal strength -76,0 dBm to -78 dBm

    At the moment there are such results and the reception is excellent. Unfortunately, I can not give other data, because now everything is ok :-)
  • #10 16924406
    Włodzimierz Wojtiuk
    Level 32  
    andpol 33 wrote:
    I do not know from where such a view that like 5km must already receive it.

    Where did I write that he must receive?
    If the level is too high, it will also be k..a, and the idea that it is too big only because the Author / Reporter does not report any problems with the rest of the MUX channels / problems ...
    (I have very different {reception in direct visibility of 2 km, 4 km, and shadow for the scar 30 km} experience from the analogue TV period about the transmitter in Chotycze)

    Let us wait for the author to speak.

    Added after 5 [minutes]:

    dyspozytor wrote:
    SNR - 22.2 dB to 26.1 dB
    Signal strength -76,0 dBm to -78 dBm

    It's already a lot (as far as I remember the recommended levels)
    dyspozytor wrote:
    At the moment there are such results and the reception is excellent



    Well, we are waiting for corruption and results.


    I'm sorry because I've been buried too much by other units!
  • #11 16924426
    dyspozytor
    Level 13  
    On MUX-3 TVP-1 and here it is always ok.

    SNR-33.1 dB
    Signal strength 48.0 dBm

    It looks like the power is much lower, and it's always ok.
  • #13 16924482
    dyspozytor
    Level 13  
    On MUX-3 (TVP-1, TVP-2) and here it is always ok.
    SNR-33.1 dB
    Signal strength 48.0 dBm


    However, on MUX-2 (TVN, Polsat, etc.) these are the results now, when everything is OK. I do not know for how long :-)
    SNR - 22.2 dB to 26.1 dB
    Signal strength -76,0 dBm to -78 dBm
  • #14 16924494
    _kli_
    Level 41  
    dyspozytor wrote:
    Signal strength -76,0 dBm to -78 dBm

    Feebly. A head with very good sensitivity if it is still receiving something. It is only about 31-33 dBuV, with the minimum required 45-47 dBuV (-64 / -62 dBm).
    dyspozytor wrote:
    Signal strength 48.0 dBm
    dyspozytor wrote:
    it's always ok

    Hence, good reception (-48 dBm = 61 dBuV).

    dyspozytor wrote:
    SNR - 22.2 dB to 26.1 dB
    It would be better if it was ? 30 dB - just like you have on mux-3.
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  • #15 16924513
    Włodzimierz Wojtiuk
    Level 32  
    andpol 33 wrote:

    Strength small and SNR small.Link

    Thank you!
    I was too much caught in the ganglia of other units from the time of cable TV (dBuV)
    I apologize to everyone for confusion!
  • #16 16924561
    dyspozytor
    Level 13  
    MUX-1
    32.9 dB
    49.0 dBm

    MUX-2
    24.1 dB
    77.1 dBm

    MUX-3
    33.1 dB
    48.0 dBm

    MUX-8
    33.0 dB
    52.0 dBm

    Does this mean that the antenna is weak? Why is it that only the MUX-2 receives so little? Is there any possibility of healing this situation? What can you do in this situation?
  • #17 16924570
    andpol 33
    Level 38  
    You will not do anything with this antenna. I would suggest you buy an antenna with an openable standard can, so that you can replace the balancer with an amplifier, e.g. link .
    Or ask kol @ Telmor if they have amplifiers for your antenna on sale.
  • #18 16924584
    _kli_
    Level 41  
    dyspozytor wrote:
    Why is it that only the MUX-2 receives so little?

    Well, sometimes it happens that one mux "sticks out" from the others.
    dyspozytor wrote:
    Is there any possibility of healing this situation? What can you do in this situation?

    Start with a slight change of direction. Often a small shift of the antenna vertically or horizontally causes a dramatic improvement. Experiment by observing mux-2 parameters. It may also be that it will improve and the remaining mux deteriorate.
  • #19 16924602
    dyspozytor
    Level 13  
    Ok. I will try the easiest way. From changing the antenna setting. I will try tomorrow morning.
    For now, Colleagues, thank you.

    Added after 18 [hours] 56 [minutes]:

    I set the antenna so that the results are optimal (averaged in individual MUX). For now it's ok. The reception is great. We'll see what will happen. Thank you Kolegom once again for helpful comments.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around issues with receiving MUX-2 signals from RTCN Poznań "Śrem" using a TELKOM-TELMOR antenna. The user experiences intermittent reception problems, particularly in the evening, while other MUXs function correctly. Various responses suggest that the signal strength and quality are insufficient, potentially due to interference from nearby buildings or neighbors. The user confirms that the antenna is correctly positioned and has checked the installation multiple times. Suggestions include adjusting the antenna's direction, considering the installation of an amplifier, and monitoring signal parameters. After experimenting with the antenna's position, the user reports improved reception.
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