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UPC Connect Box Modem & TP-LINK Archer C1200 Router Compatibility: WiFi Control & Security

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  • #1 17006620
    MICHAŁ6201
    Level 16  
    Hello

    I have to choose the Internet and UPC was initially chosen. As I already found out from UPC, I will get a modem with a built-in Connect Box router.
    I am not convinced by their built-in router in this modem. I would like to have wifi from my own TP-Link Archer C1200 router and use their Connect Box as a modem. Apparently, the configuration of this Connet Box is also very limited. Certainly, in my TP-LINK I have more parameters that I can set my way and not ask for access to the administration panel.

    Question for you - will it work well?

    I learned that you can turn off the router itself, including Connect Box, but it still sends FreeWiFi, and I would not want that. I just want full control of my home network and don't want anyone outside to access it.

    What do you think about it?
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    #2 17006627
    makosuu
    Network and Internet specialist
    I do not know if the connect box has a bridge mode, how can you skip it entirely. A colleague of KOCUREK1970 will know.
    Wi-free will be active always but it has no connection with your local network. It will work very well and you will be satisfied.
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    #3 17007711
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    makosuu wrote:
    I do not know if the connect box has a bridge mode

    In the IPv4 version, the bridge mode is.
    There is NO bridge mode in IPv6.
    But all you need to do is contact UPC and the IPv4 protocol will come back and the modem mode will appear.

    WiFree works regardless of whether it is a modem or modemorouter, but it can be turned off by a consultant.

    UPC does not block access to the ConnectBox panel (neither in modem or modem router mode).
  • #4 17013050
    MICHAŁ6201
    Level 16  
    So I have to tell the fitter to set the connect box to bridge mode, right?

    And what exactly will this connect box do in bridge mode? Because I can't find anything sensible in googles. In short, will it only do an RJ-45 gnaizdo with Internet access, to which I can connect my router?

    Thank you in advance for your answer
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  • #5 17013082
    makosuu
    Network and Internet specialist
    MICHAŁ6201 wrote:
    In short, will it only do an RJ-45 gnaizdo with Internet access, to which I can connect my router?

    Exactly.
    Connect box in bridge mode will be such an "adapter" from hub to RJ-45. It just gives public IP only on e.g. LAN1 port. It is completely transparent as if it was not there. You probably need to call the hotline for the bridge mode, but again - KOCUREK1970 will know.
  • #6 17013313
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    MICHAŁ6201 wrote:
    So I have to tell the fitter to set the connect box to bridge mode, right?

    You can do it yourself.
    The assemblers do not switch functions - they do all the measurements and tests on the modemorouter (and that's what they are interested in).
    MICHAŁ6201 wrote:
    In short, will it only do an RJ-45 gnaizdo with Internet access, to which I can connect my router?

    Exactly yes, and it doesn't matter if it's LAN1 or any other LAN2 / 3/4 port.

    Such a curiosity, the mentioned Compal (ConectBox) "gives" even 2 public addresses - so you can connect 2 routers to it in bridge mode.
  • #7 17013320
    makosuu
    Network and Internet specialist
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:

    Such a curiosity, the mentioned Compal (ConectBox) "gives" even 2 public addresses - so you can connect 2 routers to it in bridge mode.

    So we have "2 internet for the price of one"? :D
  • #8 17013554
    MICHAŁ6201
    Level 16  
    Thank you everyone for your help, now I will know what and how :)

    And this TP-Link Archer C1200 router will be good?
  • #9 17013638
    makosuu
    Network and Internet specialist
    Depends on what you expect. But in principle it would work, because why not? You'll be happy. It is a good, efficient router.
  • #10 17013714
    MICHAŁ6201
    Level 16  
    Mainly, I want to make a small network in my apartment, where I will have a desktop computer connected to a cable and our server. After wifi, you know a laptop and a phone.
    I want to connect the printer to my network via wifi. I know that you need to add the MAC address of the printer so that it works on the same address. I hope this router gets it :)
  • #11 17013745
    makosuu
    Network and Internet specialist
    It will embrace you calmly.
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    #12 17013754
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    makosuu wrote:
    So we have "2 internet for the price of one"?

    And yes and no - two internets, but with split speed, if you connect these 2 routers.
    If you have a connection, say 120 Mb with one IP (one router), you have the entire 120 Mb, if you connect the 2nd router, then you do not have 120 Mb for each IP, only 60 Mb.
    MICHAŁ6201 wrote:
    Mainly, I want to make a small network in my apartment, where I will have a desktop computer connected to a cable and our server

    If I had to suggest something here - despite the fact that you are doing everything correctly, it is worth thinking about a small switch for 5 or 8 1 Gb outputs.
    Why do you ask the switch there - in the event of a failure of Comp, or the need to reset, restart the main router or the Comp itself, your LAN network will work non-stop.
    If the switch is not there, if you need to reset, restart Compal, TP Link, you will lose the entire LAN connection.
    Of course, the switch is NOT necessary and necessary there, if you agree with such a minor inconvenience.
    MICHAŁ6201 wrote:
    I want to connect the printer to my network via wifi. I know that you need to add the MAC address of the printer so that it works on the same address

    Just remember to install the software for that printer on EVERY computer that will use it.
    MICHAŁ6201 wrote:
    I hope this router gets it

    TP Link has the option to enter a fixed IP in the LAN.
  • #13 17014499
    MICHAŁ6201
    Level 16  
    It may not install the tp-link, only the wifi, take it from the connec box, and the communication over the cable should be done through the switch? What do you think about it? How would you do?
  • #14 17014569
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    MICHAŁ6201 wrote:
    It may not install tp-link but only wifi take from the connec box

    Considering his problems with the PUMA6 chipset - I wouldn't count on success here.
    Posts 2 and 4
    https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3427273.html#17013773
    MICHAŁ6201 wrote:
    and should you do cable communication via a switch?

    And that's what I recommend too.
    But anyway, the switch must be connected to the router.
  • #15 17014899
    makosuu
    Network and Internet specialist
    The switch is a bit exaggerated by me ... After all, we do not restart the router every 5 minutes and the router does not break down every day.
    I would take TP-Link, as you hear, Compal is quite problematic ... And TP-Link is better.
  • #16 17016134
    MICHAŁ6201
    Level 16  
    But if it will only act as a bridge, the problems of this chipset will not hinder the use of the Internet?
  • #17 17016145
    makosuu
    Network and Internet specialist
    MICHAŁ6201 wrote:
    But if it will only act as a bridge, the problems of this chipset will not hinder the use of the Internet?

    It shouldn't, but do you have an alternative? You will not free yourself from the connect box anyway.
  • #18 17016194
    MICHAŁ6201
    Level 16  
    I just have no alternative. Only vectra is available in the block, more expensive and slower internet speed, I will just finish my adventure with them. Unfortunately, they also give a modem-router now with new contracts.
    I also have upc now. I will do the cancer you eat and I think it will be ok.

    Make a crossover cable between the router and the connect box, or is it simple?
  • #19 17016198
    makosuu
    Network and Internet specialist
    With this alternative, I meant the equipment at UPC. There will be a connect box anyway, which you will not do.
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  • #20 17016278
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    MICHAŁ6201 wrote:
    But if it will only act as a bridge, the problems of this chipset will not hinder the use of the Internet?

    They will be in part - after all, it does not matter whether wifi or LAN, it is supported by the same chipset.
    MICHAŁ6201 wrote:
    Make a crossover cable between the router and the connect box, or a simple one?

    It does not matter - but as a rule, a STRAIGHT cable is used.
  • #21 17018425
    MICHAŁ6201
    Level 16  
    KOCUREK1970, you write in this topic: https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3248966.html that you cannot set the modem mode in the connect box yourself. You have to call the hotline to have older software uploaded. Do you have any info on whether they are having any problems with it?

    I understand this is about removing ipv6? If it is ipv4, how can I set up the modem function as much as possible?
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    #22 17018587
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    MICHAŁ6201 wrote:
    Do you have any info on whether they are having any problems with it?

    You ask and you have.
    MICHAŁ6201 wrote:
    I understand this is about removing ipv6? If it is ipv4, how can I set up the modem function as much as possible?

    Exactly.

    You can also try to ask for it via chat in My UPC, the contact tab (if we have an account there) - most often Compala RESET is immediately after the consultant disconnects after the conversation, sometimes it takes up to 24 hours.
    Compal will be reset REMOTE and SAM will download the appropriate configuration - you just have to give it such 15 minutes of "peace".
    After getting IPv4 and putting Compal into bridge mode, it will reset again and you have to give it 15 minutes of "rest" again.
    You just have to remember that Compal in bridge mode already has a different IP on the LAN!
    Many tabs will also disappear, because they are simply unnecessary in bridge mode.
    It is also worth asking the consultant to disable the additional WiFree service (not to be confused with wifi!) - if we do not do it, Compal will STILL generate WiFree in the bridge mode.
  • #23 17018645
    makosuu
    Network and Internet specialist
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    It is also worth asking the consultant to disable the additional WiFree service (not to be confused with wifi!) - if we do not do it, Compal will STILL generate WiFree in the bridge mode.

    If you turn it off then you also won't be able to use WiFree if you accidentally wanted to. But I doubt you will need it :D
  • #24 17018702
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    @makosuu
    You have to be a masochist to use it ;) .
  • #25 17020867
    MICHAŁ6201
    Level 16  
    No wifree :D

    I have one more question, because I will make my own cables and what is better to choose to connect the station / server to the router - UTP twisted pair in the form of a wire, or cables?
    Because there are such and such. The line is a bit more expensive.
    Of course CAT 5E
    As for the twisted pair (wire), the Polish manufacturer MADEX has good opinions
    As for the distance, it is max 4 meters from the router to the stationary one. The router will stand next to this connect box.
  • #26 17021118
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    Buy prefabs - anyone can do it at this distance.
  • #27 17022752
    MICHAŁ6201
    Level 16  
    And I couldn't buy some other modem on the net and connect it to a connect box instead? There are a lot of used cisco modems on the net
  • #28 17022756
    makosuu
    Network and Internet specialist
    MICHAŁ6201 wrote:
    And I couldn't buy some other modem on the net and connect it to a connect box instead? There are a lot of used cisco modems on the net

    No way. Must be authorized by UPC.
  • #29 17022786
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    makosuu wrote:
    No way. Must be authorized by UPC.

    I CONFIRM.
    Only the equipment provided by them operates in the UPC Polska network.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the compatibility and configuration of the UPC Connect Box modem with a TP-LINK Archer C1200 router. Users express concerns about the limited configuration options of the Connect Box and seek to use it solely as a modem while utilizing the TP-LINK router for WiFi control. It is confirmed that the Connect Box can be set to bridge mode, allowing it to function as a transparent adapter providing internet access to the TP-LINK router. Users are advised to contact UPC to enable bridge mode and disable the WiFree feature to ensure full control over their home network. The TP-LINK Archer C1200 is deemed suitable for creating a small home network, supporting wired and wireless devices. Recommendations include using a switch for enhanced network stability and ensuring proper cable connections.
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