[Solved] Fast, Quiet Laptop for Work & Entertainment: 15.6 Screen, Full HD, Island Keyboard, up to PLN 1500

Good morning,

as the topic. I need a quiet, relatively fast laptop for work and everyday use, i.e. music, movies, office, etc. I care about the comfort of work, so it's probably good not to be overloaded with components. My current laptop is overheating and is loud. I want a good price-quality ratio.

My preferences:
- quiet and low temperatures (necessary)
- minimum screen 15.6 (necessary)
- good display, preferably full hd and good sound quality - in terms of movies and music (important)
- island keyboard, because I will write a lot on it, and I'm used to it (optional)


It can be new or used equipment, new at a price of, say, up to PLN 1,500, and used below PLN 1,000.

What can you recommend to me?
Thank you and best regards

At this price, maybe some macbook pro will buy a drug. The compromise is the installation of 2 systems as Mac and Windows. The aluminum housing should be ok so you should like the design. As for the battery on a Mac system, the battery about 6-8 hours obviously depends on many factors. You should also like the weight and quality of the RETINA display, e.g.
I personally use macbookpro 13 and many will probably criticize me because I mainly use Windows on it

After thinking about it, I thought that there may be an option up to PLN 2,000. As I mentioned, image quality is important to me - full hd and min. 15.6 "and quiet operation. I will be grateful for recommending specific models

Will Lenovo IdeaPad Z50-70 work?

Everyone will find it important to suit you in terms of functionality, parameters and appearance. Everyone will recommend something different to you because everyone has their own opinion. As for the volume, it is known how you will care, replace the thermal conductive paste every year, and care about the cleanliness of the heat sink and fan, it will be quiet, it will not heat up. hard disk work if it is a magnetic disk and of course a CD / DVD drive.
Of course, passive cooling does not go hand in hand with performance. The greater the power, the greater the amount of heat generated by the components and something must get rid of this excess heat, which will also affect the battery life. Ask yourself whether the anti-reflection coating on the matrix would also be helpful to avoid the influence of external light on the image you see, so that external light does not force you to change your position or place of work. You have to find a compromise yourself, choose something to your requirements

I just want to know these opinions. I do not know what is worth attention now, what parameters will be sufficient for my needs

Can I count on high quality video on the integrated graphics card, or is it better to buy a dedicated one? And if so, which one? Are 4GB RAM and an Intel i5 processor sufficient? how to choose these components at all, so that the laptop works relatively quietly, efficiently and does not heat up? what to look at in this case?

As for passive cooling, I do not have such requirements, but thanks for the suggestion. The thing is that he currently owned the Dell Insiron N1115, which I was warming from the beginning. I want to avoid it this time. There is an i3, two graphics cards: integrated and some geforce, 4 GB of RAM - average parameters even for the time in which I bought it (2012).

I am looking for a laptop to work, watch movies and listen to music. NOT for playing or video editing, or any other graphic work. Nevertheless, I care about image quality.

Hmmm what I can suggest is that not necessarily the laptop's heating is caused by its construction parameters, because some process in windows may also load the processor and the laptop will always warm up more than others that are not loaded. We know the quality of the graphics card affects the image so it's nice to have something with gforce and to have something to watch something in 4k on an external monitor without buttons, or if you feel like playing a game. So from experience I will tell you that if you do not care too much about the integrated graphics cards like to rain because inadvertently just knee the air inlet, leave the blanket, a blocked fan, or after a demanding game quickly turn off the computer without leaving it for a while to cool down So it's nice to have a dedicated graphics card because even during its failure it is enough to replace it just which is very simple and quick than giving your laptop to replace the whole graphics system or rebbaling the graphics system.

As for the amount of ram - the greater the number of open programs at the same time or the more complicated programs, the more RAM is needed. For office work 4GB is enough calmly I have 4 in desktop 16gb. Its frequency and the so-called timing marked with the symbol CL are also important. The lower the CL the better the framework but also more expensive.
Processor - the faster the more processes can be operated simultaneously without a noticeable decrease in performance. It also affects the performance of programs faster will start movies for editing faster will recalculate the material etc.
You should also remember about the rest, e.g. a hard disk may be the weakest link and will also affect the performance of the whole. It's worth setting up an SSD drive, for example, it will increase performance and mechanical resistance because with magnetic disks you can just tap the desk with your laptop and you can say goodbye to the data or the entire disk. Also here, there is a visible increase in efficiency and extension of battery life.

If you put an SSD in your current one, you would also feel a huge increase in performance if you are still using the HDD magnetic disk + new installation of windows + cleaning and paste replacement, and it may turn out that it is not worth changing your laptop and the SSD probably will be useful .

In Macbook I have a 250gb Samsung Evo 850 + HDD Samsung 512 Gb SSD instead of a drive, 4 gb ram graphics gforce 512 mb integrated and only 2 core processor and I do not replace the paw because I do not need more because if I need it I use a desktop, e.g. under 4k games e.t.c.
On the current one I can easily edit a movie in FinalCut, listen to music, watch movies in 1080p.
The win 10 system from the SSD starts for about 20s. with hibernation enabled, of course, the time is reduced by up to 5s.
So it is worth thinking whether it is worth changing and investing, for example, or you will not use its potential or the difference will be hardly noticeable. You can see for yourself that there is something to think about. For the sake of comparison, you can see YouTube videos of the same laptop with HDD and SSD and you will see the differences in the very startup of the system.

https://youtu.be/j84eEjP-RL4?t=36

There are thousands of such movies, maybe you'll even find a movie of your current paw

For movies or music you do not need strict parameters.
The integrated card has a problem in the form of drivers (intel iGPU).

That is why it is worth having even a weak dedicated card that has normal drivers and supports a number of standards (mainly acceleration).

madVR is one of the best movie renderers. It is definitely worth having an AMD card for it, because for the Nvidia card the load will be much higher.

What is worth looking at with a colleague's requirements is not components but cooling.
The same components will reach different temperatures depending on the cooling system used. Many manufacturers give inadequate cooling to the components used.

4GB Ram is currently the minimum and 8GB is the standard. Also for internet browsing.
SSD will significantly improve laptop performance and reduce the amount of heat generated.
With this budget, you can stuff some inexpensive SSD.

Lenovo IdeaPad Z50-70:
Well done cooling
Processor permanently soldered
Poor access to cooling (to maintain cooling efficiency and silence it is worth changing and cleaning the paste).
Cleaning itself from dust can be done (you can see that you can disassemble the blower without dismantling the entire laptop).

I have Lenovo G510.
Replaceable processor, dedicated card (depends on version), great cooling (max 70 ° C) and very easy access (you can remove the cooling after sliding only the back panel). Unfortunately, it did not appear in the FullHD variant.
Max for this laptop is i7-4700MQ + R7 M265 (i.e. mobile R7 250 GDDR3).

mateov3000 wrote:

So from experience I will tell you that if you do not care too much about the integrated graphics cards like to rain because inadvertently just knee the air inlet, leave the blanket, a blocked fan, or after a demanding game quickly turn off the computer without leaving it for a while to cool down So it's nice to have a dedicated graphics card because even during its failure it is enough to replace it just which is very simple and quick than giving your laptop to replace the whole graphics system or rebbaling the graphics system.

A friend should not duplicate stupidity.

The overwhelming majority of dedicated graphics cards are permanently soldered to the motherboard. Removable cards are used in laptops for gaming / workstations, several thousand each.

Integrated graphics cards are now embedded in the processor and these are quite often interchangeable. Also reballing is not necessary (unless the processor is soldered permanently).

In addition, two graphics cards work simultaneously. This is not a stationary where you can turn off the integration and use only a dedicated one. Both cards use the same set of outputs. Depending on the application used, the system works.
However, by default the integr works (at startup) and its failure would prevent the use of a laptop anyway. The operating system is responsible for running the dedicated card.

And sometimes it is impossible to turn off the integrated graphics card from the bios level and leave it only dedicated?
I will add one more thing from myself, for example, a paw for 20 thousand screwed and one for 3 thousand. and including for 3 thousand ssd disk and including for 20 thousand ordinary hdd and taking into account e.g. the time of program activation may be small or even faster from the ssd disk larger differences will appear only during demanding programs, calculations, and of course playing because such for 3 you laptop will not graphically download it.

Thanks for the answers Something like that I was able to find: http://allegro.pl/lenovo-z50-70-i3-4010u-8gb-gt820-256ssd-fhd-w10-i7083066851.html but is this processor too weak?
As for the disk, I also care about the capacity (currently 750GB is not enough), and SDD is more expensive and I will probably not find 1T in this price range. Would the SSD + HDD option be a better option? I can also buy 256 GB and store some data, e.g. on an external disk.

You can remove the DVD drive and replace the HDD in its place.
Unless a colleague needs a drive, this is a sensible solution.

The adapter costs several dozen zlotys (30-40 zlotys). I'm looking for a friend under the name "HDD Caddy".
I had problems with this adapter (transmission errors) but I made my own based on the original connector from the DVD drive.

SSD + HDD standard is 120GB SSD and HDD is as much as a colleague wants (usually the easiest way to translate the original HDD). Buying a laptop with SSD is a waste of money because they add a lot of money for such a disk. It is better to buy it yourself and put the original HDD in place of the DVD.
I have Crucial MX100 256GB + 1TB WD Blue (originally it was).

The problem with these U-terminated processors is that they are permanently soldered.
Zero upgrade options.
But it is also interesting because they do not take much electricity but it is done at the expense of efficiency.

pawel9213 wrote:

Will IdeaPad Z50-70 work?

A laptop from 2014 - don't even think about it, a weak design and you would really get wet buying it.

Minimum one of these i3:
i3-7100U (early 2017)
i3-7130U (end of 2017)
i3-8130U (early 2018)

@FxJ in what sense would I get wet? Is the year of production so important?

Then buy Latitude E6520 / E6530. You do not need anything more, the quality of workmanship is definitely much higher than that of Lenovo (maybe outside the ThinkPad series).

@ pawel9213 of course it's a consumer-budget model, plastic fantastic and not a tough business man.

@FxJ What would you recommend with these processors? There are so many models that it is difficult to understand it, and I do not know what to look at.

What exactly is the difference between i3 and i5 and i7? Because from what I read, they are supposedly better i3 than i7 even
and in my case is it worth investing in a dedicated graphics card at all? I don't play almost at all, I only care about good image and high resolution because I watch a lot

It depends how much you can add, laptops with good matrices are quite expensive, see, for example, ZenBooks.

i3 are the lowest, i5, i7 and i9 - each subsequent one is more efficient.

Laptops with 7th generation Intel processors have H.264, HEVC and VP9 hardware decoding support, so funny videos on YouTube (also 4K) or other portals will load the processor less and instead of 90% it may be 10-15%.
https://youtu.be/cI-a4WZWwZc

I have already bought the equipment - until closing