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What migomat do you recommend Powermat 230G Magnum 210/2 or maybe something else

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  • #1 17040535
    kolumb66
    Level 2  
    Hello everyone, I am going to buy a migomat, preferably a two-voltage inverter 230/400.
    I caught the eye of the magnum 210/2 and the ideal 250/2, in my opinion, they are the same, only the housings differ, but maybe someone has such a coupling and could comment on how it works in practice?

    I am very interested in the Powermat 230G, very interesting with a large range of regulation and a lot of power, but is it possible for it to have 230 V 230 A at a 60% cycle, I have already seen topics on the forum with questions about how it works, but so far no one has posted anything. Maybe someone also has such a flashing and could comment?

    Thanks for the answers and best regards :)
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  • #2 17040588
    bizon_126
    Level 31  
    Read https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic1852172.html
    I have a midi mig 210/2
    For 6 years you have been welding 45 kilos of wire and there have been some failures
    The Euro connector has broken
    I cooked the transformer, currently made of copper, it sits at the factory
    Poor quality potentiometers
    I would have spent a little extra and looked for something better
  • #3 17040968
    kolumb66
    Level 2  
    A Ideal 250/2? because one seller recommends ideal ideal and the other magnuma ideal is said to be a Polish company known to be Chinese, but maybe access to parts and service will be better? I'm also curious about this 230g powermat, a large range of adjustment and a lot of power, maybe someone else will comment on these migrations?


    Edit:
    Hello gentlemen, I bought a magnum 210/2 yesterday, it is great, so far I tested it on 230 because I have to make an adapter because the set includes a plug and an adapter for 5 pins and I have installations for 4, but I really have no objections to welding, even with an electrode it is heaven and earth with how my old transformer welding machine welded. Even with the blue electrode it welds very nicely, we will see how it will work for a longer time :) greetings
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  • #4 17069654
    wnoto
    Level 34  
    It's very nice that you came back with the answer.
    How much did you weld with the previous welding machine?
  • #5 18306975
    Majetta13
    Level 10  
    kolumb66 wrote:
    A Ideal 250/2? because one seller recommends ideal ideal and the other magnuma ideal is said to be a Polish company known to be Chinese, but maybe access to parts and service will be better? I'm also curious about this 230g powermat, a large range of adjustment and a lot of power, maybe someone else will comment on these migrations?


    Edit:
    Hello gentlemen, I bought a magnum 210/2 yesterday, it is great, so far I tested it on 230 because I have to make an adapter because the set includes a plug and an adapter for 5 pins and I have installations for 4, but I really have no objections to welding, even with an electrode it is heaven and earth with how my old transformer welding machine welded. Even with the blue electrode it welds very nicely, we will see how it will work for a longer time :) greetings


    Hello, how has this migomat been working since the purchase of the Magnum 200/2 kn. Would you buy it again if you lack something in it, maybe a different model today would meet your requirements.
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  • #6 18759992
    zbyh 62
    Level 14  
    Hello, I will dig up the topic a bit because I am at the stage of buying a migomat. I am inclined to migrate with synergy. After the initial selection, taking into account my needs, I chose 2:
    1 Magnum MIG 210 EASY synergy
    2 Inverter Migomat Powermat 220A MIG / MAG / MMA / LIFT-TIG PM-IMGS-220L SYNERGY
    My question is: is it all the same only in a different housing. Thank you for your help. Greetings.
  • #7 18760650
    Majetta13
    Level 10  
    I have been using this magnum 210 synergia easy for several months and I will say that it fulfills its task at home. Unfortunately, I did not use the second one ...
  • #8 18760797
    zbyh 62
    Level 14  
    I read a lot of positive opinions about this Magnum 210, while I have Powermat but MMA and it works great for my needs. Powermat is a bit cheaper, but it still costs 1600 PLN 1700 with a set with a cylinder and wire, etc.
  • #9 19692528
    pawlik118
    Level 33  
    Gentlemen, what opinions after a year?
    Currently, I also hesitate in between
    MAGNUM MIG 201 NEW SET # 1
    POWERMAT PM-IMG-230T MIG MAG TIG 230A 3in1

    Home use 2x a year .. but I like the "induction"
  • #10 19693905
    bizon_126
    Level 31  
    If I were to buy now, I would be looking for a used OZAS
    The design is old and simple and it fry pretty well
    I bought it as the second one and I am very positively surprised even though it is as old as me

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    A 3 phase welder is a different quality of welding
  • #11 19694041
    freebsd
    Level 42  
    bizon_126 wrote:
    A 3 phase welder is a different quality of welding
    How would your colleague present such a difference?
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  • #12 19694955
    bizon_126
    Level 31  
    From the point of physics - overlapping AC sine waves - just see the graph - relative to a single sine wave
    From a practical point of view
    The bow does not screech, but hisses
    Arc strike much more stable
    The welder splashes less
    It is more precise [more ranges]
    It is more indifferent to voltage drops in the network
    It's like driving a Fiat CC700 and switching to a CBS 1100
    The only thing is the weight of the device

    My friend deals with a car tinsmith powermat
    after a few years, breakdowns began
    He stated that he would buy something brand-name stimulant
    He went to watch, he tested one migomat, but he was not delighted, the guest gave him a slightly larger three-phase German from the 1980s for testing
    He bought the bigger one for the final and he won't apologize
  • #13 19696480
    pawlik118
    Level 33  
    Inverter welders have a constant output voltage. So theoretically, they are not inferior to anything three-phase.
    Three-phase has an advantage over single-phase, but only in the case of transformer welders.
  • #14 19698057
    bizon_126
    Level 31  
    I was welding Magnum MAG + MMA some small single phase, I was not very happy.
    It sprayed as if there was no gas.
    This is not just my opinion.
    The owner can not boast.
    He says it's like a bomb for him.
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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around recommendations for purchasing a migomat, specifically comparing the Powermat 230G, Magnum 210/2, and Ideal 250/2 models. Users share their experiences with the Magnum 210/2, highlighting its performance and reliability over time, while also expressing concerns about the quality of components in some models. The Powermat 230G is noted for its extensive range of adjustment and power capabilities, but users seek clarification on its performance specifications, particularly regarding its 230V output at 230A. Comparisons are made between different brands, with some users favoring Magnum for home use and others considering Powermat for its cost-effectiveness. The conversation also touches on the advantages of three-phase welders over single-phase models, particularly in terms of stability and precision.
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