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[Solved] Implementing VPNs with Public Fixed IP, Dynamic IP using DDNS, and Private IP with VPS

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  • #1 17069543
    terry1996
    Level 18  
    At work I was given a job to embrace VPNs, then I will implement them.

    From what I read on the net, the requirements for placing a VPN is a public fixed IP address, if not correct me.

    If we have a public dynamic IP address, you can use the DDNS protocol.

    And if we have a router's private IP address can we buy a VPS server in the cloud and put a VPN on it?


    I am most interested in this last option, as if you could give some sources or wider info, if I am right at all :D

    In addition, I'm looking for a prepaid card with a public IP address, just to make a VPN
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  • #2 17069635
    makosuu
    Network and Internet specialist
    terry1996 wrote:
    In addition, I'm looking for a prepaid card with a public IP address,

    Subscription only. At Orange, you can even get the one for 9.99.
  • #3 17069755
    terry1996
    Level 18  
    Damn I know that there are subscriptions, a few months, maybe years ago I saw the offer of some mobile vikings or something like that with a public on prepaid
  • #4 17069997
    m1w
    Level 12  
    VPN is a very broad concept and you can safely give some examples where you don't need to have an IP address at all to create a VPN :)
    Write what your goal with this VPN is, it should help you get an answer that would satisfy you.
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  • #5 17070054
    m.jastrzebski
    Network and Internet specialist
    terry1996 wrote:
    At work I was given a job to embrace VPNs, then I will implement them.

    From what I read on the net, the requirements for placing a VPN is a public fixed IP address, if not correct me.

    If we have a public dynamic IP address, you can use the DDNS protocol.

    And if we have a router's private IP address can we buy a VPS server in the cloud and put a VPN on it?


    I am most interested in this last option, as if you could give some sources or wider info, if I am right at all :D

    In addition, I'm looking for a prepaid card with a public IP address, just to make a VPN

    Or maybe start by describing what this VPN is for?
  • #6 17072419
    specpc
    Level 10  
    Dude, what do you need it for? What do you want to do on this public ip or DDNS address?
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  • #7 17072793
    terry1996
    Level 18  
    I only know that 2.3 people will use it sporadically, transfer about 20Gb per month
    law firm
    so connectivity to data resources on a private server,
  • #8 17072808
    m.jastrzebski
    Network and Internet specialist
    terry1996 wrote:
    I only know that 2.3 people will use it sporadically, transfer about 20Gb per month
    law firm
    so connectivity to data resources on a private server,

    So you have 3 people somewhere and somewhere server.
    If the server has a permanent / public IP, you put a vpn server on it or its router. Customers connect from each address.

    If the server does not have a fixed IP, you buy the vpn server service. Both the server (or its router) and 3 clients connect to the purchased vpn server.

    Instead of a vpn server, there may be a vps server, only you will have to install vpn software on it. In option 2 you will get a user / password.
  • #9 17072809
    m1w
    Level 12  
    So you mean a secure connection to data resources that are somewhere on the internet? On some file system or application?

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    You do not need a VPN for this, after all, you do not care about any tunneling of traffic, and access to data does not have to be on the layer, which is usually encapsulated by VPN.
  • #10 17072823
    terry1996
    Level 18  
    As I love how everyone gets smart, they will not help but collect points for writing a comment, each time +3 points for a comment that adds nothing to the discussion. I wrote clearly VPN to VPN, people. . .
  • #11 17072844
    m1w
    Level 12  
    I don't understand your delicate (?) Indignation. My post was based on your first one, from which I concluded that your understanding of VPNs is not in-depth, which at the same time forced me to conclude that and the order that someone gave you might not have been thought through.

    But if you insist, I suggest you think through the following:
    - VPN is a broad term that generally applies to tunneling of traffic to create a "private network", i.e. something that works on Layer 3 (or 2) and benefits. On the third layer, there are protocols such as IP, which do not directly transfer data, but allow a whole range of protocols that can be used by various applications (e.g. sharing network resources in Windows, etc.).
    - To share data, you do not have to take into account any third-layer conditions, IP addresses, just use a service / application that will allow you to securely, e.g. an encrypted cloud resource.

    If you really want this VPN, think about implementation, go for some and read the documentation on how to do it. The most popular IPSec is not able to use the "mediator" and at least one end of the tunnel must be accessible at a public address.
  • #12 17072852
    terry1996
    Level 18  
    I just choose the internet service provider and minimize the costs, but so that it can be implemented. My manager knows what he commissioned me. I just have to learn it :D
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  • #13 17072856
    m1w
    Level 12  
    Take a fixed, external IP address is enough. Then you can use open source VPN solutions, such as those that will not require a permanent public IP address from "clients".
  • #14 17072858
    terry1996
    Level 18  
    The point is that a permanent external is the most expensive in a given location - and the customer cuts XD costs
  • #15 17072860
    m1w
    Level 12  
    Seriously? It should be ten / ten zlotys a month ...
  • #16 17072868
    m.jastrzebski
    Network and Internet specialist
    terry1996 wrote:
    The point is that a permanent external is the most expensive in a given location - and the customer cuts XD costs

    You won't get either the vps server or the vpn service for free. Probably similar costs. With the amount of data you give you something specific hint.
  • #17 17073050
    makosuu
    Network and Internet specialist
    m1w wrote:
    constant

    Why a permanent address? Public variable is enough.
  • #18 17073097
    m1w
    Level 12  
    You're right, DDNS could be enough.
  • #19 17075035
    terry1996
    Level 18  
    Okay, bought with a permanent public because we got a discount.

    The client argued about every 20 PLN so XD

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around implementing VPNs using various IP configurations, including public fixed IP, dynamic IP with DDNS, and private IP with a VPS. Users clarify that while a public fixed IP is often preferred for VPN setups, it is not strictly necessary. Dynamic IPs can utilize DDNS for connectivity, and a VPS can be employed to host a VPN server, allowing clients to connect securely. The conversation also touches on the cost implications of obtaining a public IP and the feasibility of using prepaid options. The need for a clear understanding of the VPN's purpose is emphasized, as well as the potential for open-source solutions that do not require a permanent public IP.
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