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Choosing a Superzoom Compact: Nikon P610, B700, Panasonic FZ82, Sony HX350 or Other Options?

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  • #1 17099798
    sztani1
    Level 12  
    I warmly welcome :grin:

    I would like advice on choosing the superzoom compact. I am a novice who has been very attracted to photography recently. The camera should be second hand!
    Why superzoom? Because the main purpose of the camera is photos in the forest and in the fields, animals and birds, sometimes open air, family photos indoors, of course, some short videos commemorating family episodes also come into play.
    I know that the best option would be a camera with a 1.0 matrix, unfortunately I can't afford it right now.
    Such a best option for me would be Canon PowerShot G3 X or Lumix DMC-FZ1000, unfortunately finances ...

    But to the point, I found four models, unfortunately I can't decide which one to choose, please help!
    - Nikon COOLPIX P610
    - NIKON COOLPIX B700
    - PANASONIC LUMIX DC-FZ82
    - Sony DSC-HX350
    Link to compare: https://www.optyczne.pl/p...=2128&add3=2123

    Maybe something else you recommend?
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  • #3 17100150
    marcode
    Level 26  
    There is a lot of it, but make sure before buying whether this quality of photos satisfies you, the amount of noise in poor lighting conditions can disappoint, photos in rooms with a built-in lamp will give miserable quality in the same way, in the forest the amount of light is not crazy, extreme zooms also degrade picture.
  • #4 17100197
    sztani1
    Level 12  
    I am aware of the fact that with 40-50-60 zoom the image quality is dramatically lost! (40x-60x zoom treats more like a bajer!) From what I knew, the greater the ISO range, the greater the noise and amount of light? (correct me if I'm wrong)
    In the forest I will use max 15x - 20x! So I suspect that with such a zoom I will not lose much on the quality of photos? (if I'm wrong, bring me down)
    I chose the above models (superzoom) because, in my opinion, the layman, they are at a similar technical level as similar cameras with a zoom range of 15x - 20x, and above all they are affordable!
    If you would recommend something from the models I mentioned, which one would it be? if any other, which one?

    Best regards and thanks for your interest
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    #5 17100220
    marcode
    Level 26  
    The problem is the surface of the matrix, the smaller you need to raise the ISO, which introduces noise and degrades the image, plus any larger focal length or zoom causes that the aperture decreases, i.e. it is darker and you need to raise the ISO again.
    ISO does not increase / decrease the light but in short increases the sensitivity of the matrix, we gain brightness and lose quality.
  • #6 17100298
    sztani1
    Level 12  
    In the model I mentioned, the matrices are the same size, 1 / 2.3 inches!
    In what focal range the light sensitivity remains at f.2.8?

    PS: I hope you understand what I mean, best regards
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  • #8 17100313
    marcode
    Level 26  
    sztani1 wrote:
    In the model I mentioned, the matrices are the same size, 1 / 2.3 inches!
    In what focal range the light sensitivity remains at f.2.8?

    PS: I hope you understand what I mean, best regards

    The problem is those 1 / 2.3 "microscopic matrices and nothing can be done about it, sometimes it can be even worse than on a good sound.
    Optics has f / 2.8 but in what focal range or at what zoom it is already necessary to check in the description / tests.
  • #9 17100340
    sztani1
    Level 12  
    Piterrr, thanks for the link !!

    marcode, I know that 1 / 2.3 inch matrices are weak, unfortunately cameras with 1 inch matrices. they are not available to me at the moment! (I wrote about it in the first post) The sound matrices may be the same, but there is no zoom and stabilization !!

    Maybe you can advise what to choose from the above models? I can add that Panasonic and Sony models are available as new and not second-hand (I found Sony discounted)
  • #11 17101248
    sztani1
    Level 12  
    Only three models left on the battlefield :cunning:

    - NIKON COOLPIX B700
    - PANASONIC LUMIX DC-FZ82
    - Sony DSC-HX350

    I compare the specifications of Nikon and Panasonic -https: //www.optyczne.pl/porownaj.php? co = camera & how much = 3 & add0 = 2128 & add1 = 2122 & add2 = 2123

    I noticed it, it illuminated: Nikon-f / 3.3-6.5 - Panasonic-f / 2.8 - 5.9 (sony f / 2.8 - 6.3)

    Panasonic is the brightest at its focal length?

    in addition, both save the image in RAW format! which, unfortunately, is lacking in sonia :cry:
  • #12 17101271
    Pedros050
    Level 43  
    So probably only NIKON COOLPIX B700 remains.
  • #13 17109275
    sztani1
    Level 12  
    I think I decided on Panasonic Lumix, only on the FZ300 or FZ 200 !!!

    Comparing the FZ300-200 model with the Coolpix B700, the specification speaks for Lumix :wink: In favor of Lumix, speaks constant light sensitivity f 2.8!
  • #14 17109375
    marcode
    Level 26  
    I do not understand the purchase of such cameras, a microscopic matrix with hopeless effective resolution, poor dynamics, high noise at ISO 400, great zoom but giving insufficient quality, optical brightness is a joke in these parameters.
    A better effect can be obtained with any mirrorless kit lens, so what if you use a large zoom as the recorded image will be worse than without such a large zoom on a large aps-c sensor?
    I know that the price is important, but there is a lot of used equipment, and I don't recommend throwing money out for such a superzom.
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  • #15 17115829
    arq-maile
    Level 11  
    sztani1 wrote:
    I think I decided on Panasonic Lumix, only on the FZ300 or FZ 200 !!!
    a very good choice - you don't have a 100x zoom, but you get a very good image, for a compact quite good AF (you will appreciate the F / 2.8 at the long end) - the cousin has the FZ200 and is very happy - the lenses in both models are identical if the budget lasts - the successor has filming in 4K, probably even some sealing and slightly better ergonomics
  • #16 17120306
    sztani1
    Level 12  
    I bought it however Lumixa FZ200 :D

    The camera is very good for me, an amateur, apart from the automatic mode (iA) there are many possibilities for manual settings !!!

    Thanks to everyone for your time !!!


    greetings :sm9:
  • #17 17120507
    arq-maile
    Level 11  
    @ sztani1 you will be pleased ;-)

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around selecting a superzoom compact camera suitable for a novice photographer interested in wildlife and family photography. The user is considering second-hand options and has narrowed it down to four models: Nikon COOLPIX P610, Nikon COOLPIX B700, Panasonic Lumix DC-FZ82, and Sony DSC-HX350. Key considerations include image quality, low-light performance, and zoom capabilities. Participants emphasize the importance of sensor size and aperture, noting that smaller sensors (1/2.3 inch) can lead to increased noise at higher ISOs. The Panasonic Lumix models are highlighted for their constant f/2.8 aperture, which is advantageous for low-light conditions. Ultimately, the user decides on the Panasonic Lumix FZ200, citing its manual settings and overall performance for amateur photography.
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