FAQ
TL;DR: For a 3-person home, heating 200 L by 35°C uses ≈8 kWh/day; "Container insulation is so good that the parking loss is several pennies a day." Keep setpoint low, schedule heating, or switch to G12w. [Elektroda, Szczecin62, post #17188130]
Why it matters: Families running an Ariston Pro Eco 80L on G11 can lower hot-water costs without cold showers or hassle.
Quick Facts
- Typical daily hot-water use per adult ≈70 L; three people ≈200 L/day. [Elektroda, Szczecin62, post #17188130]
- Heating 200 L by 35°C ≈8 kWh/day; on G11 that’s ~120–150 PLN/month. [Elektroda, Szczecin62, post #17188130]
- Comfortable everyday setpoint: 45–47°C; nightly shutoff brings little difference for daily users. [Elektroda, Dominik_31, post #17188146]
- Some run 40°C continuously to minimize losses on G11. [Elektroda, vodiczka, post #17188201]
- G12w cheap windows: 13–15, 22–6, plus weekends; use a timer with manual boost. [Elektroda, gaz4, post #17197123]
Should I keep my electric boiler on 24/7 on G11?
Yes—leave it on and set the lowest temperature that still meets demand. Heat losses scale with temperature difference. "It is advantageous to keep the boiler turned on for 24 hours with the lowest temperature." This approach avoids frequent reheats and preserves comfort on a single-rate tariff. [Elektroda, vodiczka, post #17188201]
Will turning the boiler off at night save money on G11?
For daily use, users report little to no saving from nightly shutoff. It also risks cold water if someone forgets to switch it back on. One user at 45–47°C saw “no difference” whether left on or off overnight. [Elektroda, Dominik_31, post #17188146]
What temperature should I set to reduce costs but stay comfortable?
On G11, keep the tank temperature as low as still comfortable and heat when needed. Avoid long storage of hot water. "Keep the temperature in the tank as low as possible and heat when needed." If heating at night, start about an hour before wake-up. [Elektroda, Sstalone, post #17181565]
How much electricity does a 3-person family use for hot water?
Estimate ~200 L/day of hot water. Heating a 35°C rise needs about 8 kWh/day. That equals roughly 4–5 PLN/day, or 120–150 PLN/month on G11. "You will not turn off any noticeable savings" by toggling power. [Elektroda, Szczecin62, post #17188130]
Is switching to G12w worth it for hot water?
Yes, if you can shift heating into off-peak windows. G12w is cheap 13–15, 22–6, and weekends. Use a time switch with a manual ‘boost’ for occasional needs. "It is worth going to the tariffs from the G12 group… G12w." [Elektroda, gaz4, post #17197123]
How should I schedule heating with a programmer or smart plug?
Use a timer to match usage. Run short morning/afternoon cycles for washing and kitchen needs. Schedule a longer evening cycle for showers or baths. Adjust durations until you consistently finish with a little hot water left. "Use a programmer that will switch on the boiler at the right time." [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17181695]
How can I cut standby (parking) losses on my 80L tank?
Add insulation and a metallized foil or thermal blanket to the cylinder. Add extra centimeters on the top lid, which leaks the most heat. Lower the setpoint modestly to reduce temperature difference. Expect smaller savings than a tariff switch, but still measurable. [Elektroda, gaz4, post #17197123]
How do I measure my boiler’s standby losses?
Do a simple test.
- Heat the tank to setpoint, then switch the heater off and stop drawing hot water.
- Wait many hours, e.g., 24 h, without any hot-water use.
- Turn the heater on and time the reheating or read kWh on a wattmeter. "Measure the working time or measuring the wattmeter." [Elektroda, BANANvanDYK, post #17188299]
My pipes feel warm with no water running—whats happening?
You likely have gravitational heat leakage into the pipes, which wastes energy. Check the boiler connection and verify there is no unintended thermosiphon path. "The boiler should hold heat for 24 hours when no hot water is drawn." Confirm by the standby-loss test and adjust plumbing if needed. [Elektroda, BANANvanDYK, post #17188299]
Does extra foil or blanket insulation actually help?
Yes. Users report metallized foil clearly reduced downtime losses. Wrap the cylinder and add several centimeters on the top lid. You can use wool or a polystyrene shell. Note: these upgrades save less than changing to G12w, but they are low-cost. "Add a few cm additional warming to the upper lid." [Elektroda, gaz4, post #17197123]
What real-world bill can I achieve on G12w?
One user paid 180 PLN over two months for the entire house with hot water heating in the second tariff. Shift other loads, like laundry and dishwashing, into cheap windows to compound savings. Results depend on habits and appliance efficiency. [Elektroda, BANANvanDYK, post #17188299]
How much water do typical tasks use, and why does it matter?
Reported use: 0.5–1 L for one hand wash and 7–10 L for a shower. Reducing draw volume directly lowers energy use and bills. Monitor flow and shorten showers to see immediate savings on any tariff. [Elektroda, BANANvanDYK, post #17188299]
My boiler sits in an unheated attic; can it still hold heat?
Yes, with good insulation it can. A user’s 60 L tank in an uninsulated attic kept water warm overnight. They used a ‘turbo’ boost only before longer showers. Their total electricity bills were around 125 PLN per month. [Elektroda, Lisek64, post #17188488]
What if my G11 bill exceeds 150 PLN/month?
Check whether your hot-water volume exceeds ~200 L/day or your setpoint is higher than needed. At 200 L and a 35°C rise, expected cost is 120–150 PLN/month. Toggle strategies won’t add “noticeable” savings; focus on volume, setpoint, and insulation. [Elektroda, Szczecin62, post #17188130]