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Ferguson Ariva 200 - The tuner has stopped working with the NC + card

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  • #1 17280472
    MQKris
    Level 8  
    I already know the problem axis, I would just like to confirm, I have Diviso Air decoders and one day they stopped working. Everything has been checked, I have put my mother's card in every Ariva and nothing (on the original decoder works). Then I read that NC + introduced content protection and a list of decoders that will work with their cards (Ariva is not there). Now I have a few questions, is it possible to change some settings in the home card or broadcasting signal? A friend also has such a decoder and in the meantime the NC + card works, so they change the settings selectively? The card is supposed to work (according to NC +) from the nBox 5800s, so if it's like the purchase of the allegro with Enigma, will it work with Diviso Air? (the splitter manufacturer has it on the operating list).
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  • #2 17280535
    simhak
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    FEDC - read.
    The problem may also apply to the splitter.
  • #3 17280654
    MQKris
    Level 8  
    I read but I also put the original NC + card directly to Ariva (to all that I have) and there is no signal (coded message), there are only uncoded channels, so does the splitter have anything to do with this?
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  • #4 17280677
    simhak
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    The card does not work in free market decoders.
    The same applies to splitters.
    You want to buy equipment on Enigma and continue using the splitter.
    Check if the splitter is reading the card correctly.
  • #5 17282059
    MQKris
    Level 8  
    The splitter card should work because the LED blinks green (transmits permissions). Probably my tuner can not pick them up anymore (which has not been working well yet). I do not have to buy on enigma can be orig. soft (on enigma, if it did not work, I can always return), just any decoder (preferably the ADB 5800S), which is not paired with the card and is supported by NC + and Diviso.

    On this page there is a list of active set-top boxes: https://ncplus.pl/zabezpieczenie-tresci.

    If nothing works then I will have to buy a multiroom with them and that's all, maybe someone on the forum has already configured such a set and can confirm that it works. greetings

    PS. On the Diviso page I read that the splitter works with 5800s only on Enigma softwares, so I'll take a chance and buy one piece for the test.
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  • #6 17282105
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #7 17282115
    MQKris
    Level 8  
    I wrote any decoder that works with NC + (I mean those from the list on the NC + website). I buy ADB 5800s on enigma. I hope it works and if I do not, I turn it over and take the multiroom.

    On the diviso page there is no information that their splitters have stopped working so I can take a chance, I lose nothing but a few zlotys for shipping.
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  • #8 17282130
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #9 17282138
    MQKris
    Level 8  
    Works with the card, this model (WifiBox +) is not supported by diviso and BSKA 5800s is so worth a try, unless there is a person who is 100% sure that it will not work.
  • #10 17432275
    kkowalski22
    Level 2  
    MQKris wrote:
    Works with the card, this model (WifiBox +) is not supported by diviso and BSKA 5800s is so worth a try, unless there is a person who is 100% sure that it will not work.

    And how did you check? It works?
    with me on Friday Ariva stopped working :(
  • #11 17432314
    MQKris
    Level 8  
    So BSKA on Enigma worked with the Diviso splitter. greetings
  • #12 17534224
    reja
    Level 11  
    MQKris wrote:
    I already know the problem axis, I would just like to confirm, I have Diviso Air decoders and one day they stopped working. Everything has been checked, I have put my mother's card in every Ariva and nothing (on the original decoder works). Then I read that NC + introduced content protection and a list of decoders that will work with their cards (Ariva is not there). Now I have a few questions, is it possible to change some settings in the home card or broadcasting signal? A friend also has such a decoder and in the meantime the NC + card works, so they change the settings selectively? The card is supposed to work (according to NC +) from the nBox 5800s, so if it's like the purchase of the allegro with Enigma, will it work with Diviso Air? (the splitter manufacturer has it on the operating list).


    Hello, I've given Pace 500 GB to Enigma 2 and it works well with Diviso.
    I have several Ariva 120 Combo. They stopped working a few days ago. They do not work even with the original cameleon card. I will be grateful if someone can find a way to Ariva 120 C and share it with us.
    Greetings.
    janusz(_at_)mostowski.pl

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around the Ferguson Ariva 200 tuner, which has ceased functioning with NC+ cards due to new content protection measures. Users report that while original NC+ cards work in compatible decoders, they do not function in free market decoders like the Ariva. The issue may also involve splitters, as some users have noted that their splitters appear to be operational but do not transmit the necessary permissions. Recommendations include purchasing compatible decoders such as the ADB 5800S or using Enigma software, as these are listed as supported by NC+. Users express frustration over the lack of functionality and seek confirmation on whether specific decoders and splitters will work with their NC+ cards.
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FAQ

TL;DR: After NC+ changes, 0 non‑original decoders or splitters work; "Your card has stopped working in the SECA system." Enigma2 differs. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17282105]

Why it matters: NC+ users on Ferguson Ariva or Diviso Air who lost encrypted channels can see causes and workable paths.

Quick Facts

Why did my Ferguson Ariva stop working with the NC+ card?

NC+ shifted the card to Nagravision, which blocks SECA operation. That disables free‑market decoders and splitters. The post states, "Your card has stopped working in the SECA system." It also adds, "It's different about decoders on Enimgma." This explains why Ariva lost encrypted channels while some Enigma2 setups still function. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17282105]

Does the Diviso Air splitter still work with current NC+ cards?

Not with Nagravision‑only cards. The guidance is explicit: "no splitter and non‑original decoder will work" in that state. This means Diviso won’t restore decryption when used with Ariva. Enigma2 decoders are a separate case per the same source. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17282105]

My original NC+ decoder still works—what does that imply?

It indicates the card remains supported on the operator’s hardware. One user confirms the card works in WiFiBox+, but notes that model is not supported by Diviso. Operator decoders stay authorized even when free‑market devices fail. [Elektroda, MQKris, post #17282138]

Can an ADB/nbox 5800S (BSKA) with Enigma2 and Diviso restore viewing?

Yes. One user confirmed, "BSKA on Enigma worked with the Diviso splitter." That provides a viable path if you need multiroom‑like viewing without NC+ Multiroom. Statistic: 1 user confirmed this exact workaround in the thread. [Elektroda, MQKris, post #17432314]

Does Pace 500GB on Enigma2 work with Diviso?

Reported yes. A user migrated Pace 500GB to Enigma2 and wrote it "works well with Diviso." This is a second working Enigma2 case, supporting the Enigma2 route when Ariva fails. [Elektroda, reja, post #17534224]

I only get FTA channels on Ariva with the NC+ card—what does that mean?

It signals decryption is blocked for scrambled channels. A user saw only uncoded channels after inserting the card directly in Ariva. That aligns with the Nagravision‑only shift and unsupported free‑market decoders. [Elektroda, MQKris, post #17280654]

How can I check if my Diviso splitter is reading the card?

Look at the splitter’s LED. A blinking green LED indicates permissions are transmitted from the master card. If the LED is correct yet Ariva stays dark, the block is on the tuner side, not the splitter. [Elektroda, MQKris, post #17282059]

What does "FEDC" mean in this thread context?

A participant pointed to "FEDC" and warned the problem may also affect the splitter. The note flags a content‑protection aspect to read up on when diagnosing NC+ issues. "FEDC – read." [Elektroda, simhak, post #17280535]

Are NC+ cards now limited to approved decoders only?

The OP cites NC+ content protection and a published list of active set‑top boxes. Ariva models are absent from that list, explaining lost compatibility. Check the operator list before buying hardware. [Elektroda, MQKris, post #17280472]

If Enigma2 is "different," what does that imply for compatibility?

The cited guidance says, "It’s different about decoders on Enimgma." That implies Enigma2 boxes can succeed where free‑market decoders fail. User reports for BSKA and Pace on Enigma2 support this direction. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #17282105]

How do I switch to an Enigma2 setup to regain channels?

  1. Use an nbox/ADB 5800S (BSKA) running Enigma2.
  2. Connect the Diviso splitter and insert your NC+ card.
  3. Test scrambled channels for decryption. This configuration was confirmed working with Diviso by a user. [Elektroda, MQKris, post #17432314]

My Ariva 120 Combo stopped even with a Cameleon card. What now?

A user with several Ariva 120 Combo units reported total failure, even using the original Cameleon card. This edge case indicates hardware that previously worked can still fail after changes. Consider Enigma2 alternatives documented in the thread. [Elektroda, reja, post #17534224]

Should I verify the splitter before replacing hardware?

Yes. One responder advised, "Check if the splitter is reading the card correctly." Confirm that first, then evaluate moving to an Enigma2 box if decryption remains blocked. [Elektroda, simhak, post #17280677]

Will a WiFiBox+ work with Diviso Air?

No. A user states WiFiBox+ works with the card but is not supported by Diviso. If you need Diviso, consider BSKA on Enigma2 instead. [Elektroda, MQKris, post #17282138]

What if nothing works—should I get NC+ Multiroom?

One participant planned to buy NC+ Multiroom if the Enigma2 route failed. The thread does not confirm Diviso use with Multiroom. Treat Multiroom as the operator‑supported fallback. [Elektroda, MQKris, post #17282059]
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